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I am lucky enough to have seen Johnstone, Groves and Stainrod in the pre Joe Royle era. Each so talented but as has been said earlier when Grovesy got the ball there was an extra buzz in the crowd. One of the best games I saw him play was at a league cup match (I think it was) at Hull when Billy Bremner managed them. I think he might have been playing to get away as it was rumoured there was a falling out. Anyway although we lost, he was virtually unplayable.

Looking back, for me that 73/74 promotion season is up there with 89/90. Forward line McVitie, Garwood Lochead and Groves. Imagine that now.

Its such a shame he died so young fantastic player, humble bloke.

(Apologies if memory not totally reliable) 

2 hours ago, simplythemostimportantkick said:

I like Wellens and he gets my vote. But I keep reading this regards his interviews. What the fuck does it matter if he's good, shit or indifferent at them ? Do we get bonus points for smashing  the goal rush interview or summat ? Seriously I don't get the obsession ? 

It's not an obsession but it  suggests he knows what he is talking about and will be able to communicate his ideas clearly to the players.

An intelligent articulate interview from RW showing a realistic vision for the future, already backed up with two wins on the trot. It has to be Wellens.

I remember a friendly in about 1967 against a swiss team FC Thun I think it was. It was in the Ken Bates era and Latics had recently signed John Collins who was reputed to be paid £50 for every goal he scored. I think Latics won the game 6-0, all goals scored by Collins but the £50 per goal did not apply to friendlies.

Also vaguely remember a friendly agains Sofia Select Bulgaria in the Bobby Johnstone era. I think Latics won 3-2.

NB my recollection of the details may not be 100% accurate

Very sad news. The passing of a true gentleman and legendary Latic. Solid hard as nails player. As manager took us from bottom of the old fourth division to the second division (championship) in under 4 years and kept us there. Signed Alan Groves and many other top players.

I agree with the comments above that some form of permanent memorial of him and his achievements is deserved and appropriate.

RIP Sir Jimmy and sincere condolences to your family.

All the above, (especially Warren Feeney) plus Mike Bernard (permanently injured) Neil Tolson "one for the future" John Sleewhenowek (not sure on the spelling)

Jimmy Frizz also signed striker David Irving who seemed a decent player but was hardly ever picked

Great post.

"Without hope there is no point being a supporter". This sums up the position perfectly.

Ancient history

1. Bobby Johnstone. It is such a great shame there was no video back then. It is impossible to describe adequately his skill. Overweight, unfit, probably a few pints before the game but still in a completely different class to the rest of the players back then.

2. Ian Marshall

3. Simon Stainrod

More recently

Eyres

Shez

Gregan

found this on facebook is the year right thought the ford stand was built close season 71/72 ?

 

other than that great painting ?

 

http://www.stadiumportraits.com/oldham-athletic-boundary-park.html

In season 1970-71 Latics were promoted from Division 4 to Division 3 and also won the Ford Sporting League. They had won it every month of the season and I think the final prize was £70000 on top of anything already paid.

That money funded the building of the Ford Stand by George Dew and it was ready for the start of season 1971-72.

This is from memory and as I am getting on a bit now I stand to be corrected on the details

 

Largely an incorrect statement... and its not like people haven't tried engaging with him...

 

http://www.owtb.co.uk/index.php/topic/45027-trust-relaunch/?hl=%2Btrust+%2Brelaunch

 

Maybe that will answer some of your questions... if not try the search facility and catch up....

well I have tried to "catch up". It does not answer the questions other than it is a potential vehicle for raising money. Whether it be the Trust or an independent supporters association when people are asked to put their money where their mouth is there will be a deafening silence.

Barry can't do right for doing wrong for some people. Would any of his critics specify:

1. What he does not do that he should?

2. What he does do that he shouldn't?

3. What difference it makes to the situation the club is in either way?

4. What difference it makes to the average fan either way?

5. What exactly is he supposed or expected to do?

If the answer to 5 is "represent the fans' interests" what does that mean in practical terms?

Unless there is a clear understanding of what he is supposed to do then levelling criticism of "self interested" "more for the board than the fans" etc. is meaningless.

I genuinely do not have enough understanding of his role to make an objective judgement but instinctively I feel he comes in for a lot of unjustified stick

as with players if you are good enough you are old enough. the best managers at latics in my time were Frizz and Joe - both first timers. They would both agree that since their day the gap between rich and poor in football has grown massively such that clubs at the lower end have to make do and mend with loans. LJ has a tougher job than they did I think but his attitude gives grounds for optimism.

thanks for the reports. really cheered me up. great effort by all concerned

 

 

That's it then, case closed, anyone who's ever been a number 2 can't possibly make the step up.

Where sammy lee is concerned yes. He blew it at Bolton. In any case I cannot imagine he is being seriously considered. If he is well prepare for the local derby with Rochdale next season

Lee maybe a good coach but he would be a disaster as manager and I do not think for one minute SC would be foolish enough to appoint him. Remember Brian Kidd was an excellent no. 2 but failed as Blackburn manager

I think 50 is usually enough - 52 to be sure. 46 games in league 1 played as opposed to 38 in the prem.

Played some great passing football tonight but unfortunately Scunthorpe were able to ride their luck with the assistance of a very poor referee. Disappointing result obviously but good match and a decent atmosphere in the ground

Definitely a straight red but refs always tend to go for the second yellow. What the :censored: was M'voto doing for their first? Awful, awful defending and Tarkowski's not too impressed! Mellor caught out badly just before the first sending off - a bit lucky it ended with them having Lowton sent off rather than with us going 3-1 down. Great finish from Lee; I never knew he had a left foot. Class touch from Kuqi to send Reid through. I like KMB - he frightens defenders.

On the latics player highlights it looks a foul on M'Voto

All the best for the future Alan. Your service to the club has been magnificent and I echo the sentiments expressed that you always found time for the fans.

I think this is great news. The BP site does have potential still. I prefer the prospect of a gradual redevelopment of BP to a limited once and for all 12000 lego stand. Keeps the dream alive at the spiritual home.

Well yesterday I bought my Carlisle tickets and made a modest donation to the club of a bit more than what I saved on the two tickets.

You make a very good point what can we do? All I can think of is forming links between the trust and local businesses to raise funds to at least keep BP open for a few more years, and during that time try to get everyone on board, fans, OMBC, trust, business to seek a long term solution to the stadium issue. I know there are business peole in the town, including me, who although by no means wealthy, would be prepared to do what we could to help. Question is are there enough of us, and is there the will?

Personally groundshare, other than strictly temporarily, or a move out of the Borough is not the answer, indeed it would signal the end in my opinion. The trust may be perceived ineffective, but as on another thread, now is the time we may need it

not 100% on this but i recall reading somewhere that Pine Villa played on Berry's field which was off Garforth Street Chadderton near the methodist church. Somehow Latics has to stay in Oldham for me and remain Oldham Athletic.

we were robbed according to commentary.

What is wrong with trying to bolster support? Why can't people see the positive in this. Not only is PD the best manager for ages, but he really seems to care about the club. If the idea works great, if not so what? The negativity on here at times is pathetic. Oh and as for

"some of my mates who pay £20 to get in BP have simply borrowed mates citycards, and will be paying £10 less this weekend" that will really help Latics I don't think

My memory might be failing me, but I seem to recollect Bobby Moore playing for Fulham at BP - and scoring a magnificent headed own goal.

As a matter of interest did Gregan ever score an own goal while at Latics. ?

Remember both the West Ham games. Bobby Moore og I think from a corner - Chaddy end. The West Ham cup replay from the 2-2 at BP was the first time I saw Latics on TV. David Coleman commentating - all I remember was "Oh that was a blatant foul by Frizzell" edit wrong I am mixing it up with the Wolves replay in 66/67 its my age you know

On topic Greegs has been magnificent for Latics, but I agree with the manager's decision. Time to move on.

The only own goal I can think of by Greegs was at Scunthorpe leading to their 10 - 0 -0 formation to try to hang on for the win then Gary Mac scoring