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I see the play was put on in Germany as "Zicker Zacker". Now...Zacker means Crampon. And I reckon Zicker could be a corruption or dialect for Sicher which would mean "Secure Crampon". Errr, maybe not but maybe yes.

But then if you look into "Zicker Zacker" using a certain famous search engine you find an Oktoberfest song - Zicker Zacker Zicker Zacker Hoi! Hoi! Hoi!

So maybe it was a Bavarian Mountain Climbers drinking song?! Or maybe their song comes from the play which comes from England. The answers out there......

edit - apparently Zacker is used in some dialects as a prefix to a swear word. So fugg knows. I shall enquire with some Bosch acquaintances of mine

methinks they're laying it on a bit thick with the "shocking violence". Shocking if you're right in the middle of it of course but I think most of us left the ground without needing a stiff drink to steady ourselves as we wrestled with the terrible mental images that'll haunt us for a lifetime

had a root about on tinternet and it would seem that the play was named after a hooligan chant already in existence. With oi, oi, oi rather than our more pleasing Athletic. So that would date it before 1967

can't see how it came from foreigners when it's a British play. Sounds unlikely

Anyway, any budding hooligan thespians out there....

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Zigger-Zagger-Mooney-Caravans-Penguin/dp/0140481222

there was a stage play about football hooligans called Zigger Zagger. From some point in the 60's. I think the team was called Athletic although I may be wrong. Also it was being sung throughout the 70's by Latics well before any link up with the Frankfurt lot

edit - Chelsea used to sing it as well. Back when they used to sing

Rochdale's highest League One attendances:

http://www.11v11.com/teams/rochdale/tab/stats/option/attendances

what are they? That site is on my firms banned list for some reason

Fight club moment? Are you also Westy?

I must confess to being utterly bemused by the whole episode. I suppose if I hadn't been daydreaming and had halted to inquire as to what was vexing him so much or told him to Foxtrot Oscar the next stop in his Fashion Police tyranny would have involved some kind of physical altercation. *Over the coat I was wearing*. Which until Saturday seemed a normal kind of coat but this morning I will be going out on the school run fully tooled up, the Fashionistas are out there and they're really really angry

edit - & it's not a fishtail parka either which takes things to a another level of weird

who was the bloke down near where Hulk got nicked who went mental at a passing Oldham fan at c.14:45 for wearing a Parka? Screaming Fishtail & then about 5 uses of the c word,5 f's & 5 w's? I was aware someone was going mental but only when I got to back of stand my brother said it was at me! Very weird.Maybe my coat's a bit 'Manc'? Anyway, whoever you are you're a spanner!

going on the side of the pitch isn't an offence.Going on the pitch is which I don't think he did.If they don't charge him with anything else somebody needs to make him aware of this.

disgusting. Fireworks are Haram. Forbidden to true believers of the religion of peace. You're all racists

our 5th ranked 'niche interest' is Manchester United???? Foxtrot Oscar

 

Everton?

correct

I'll bet a few on here were at the FA cup match when we played Coventry at home and lost 1:0. Keeper John Platt miss-threw straight to Tommy Hutchison who promptly notched the winner. They were a top flight team then, really looked forward to and fancied us to beat them at the time. Early eighties was it?

I remember it purely because I didn't go and had wanted to. Strange to dwell on such things for 35 years!*

*- s***, 35 years. I'll be dead soon at this rate

I have absolutely no knowledge - and am fairly comfortable in that ignorance - of the transfer in and outs of Coventry this last summer. Have they lost most of last season's team or is it the same one underperforming? Expected them to be doing much better than this - although early days obviously

still not a patch on the Valentines Day Massacre of 1925 when we turned them over 5-0 at a rocking Boundary Park. I'm sure we all remember that one. Such a trouncing that they named the one in Chicago, four years later, after it

What Coventry City need is Jimmy Hill

The. Oldham. Athletic.Will never be defeated

only just got around to watching the footage. Unbelievable how moronic everybody is. And it was the Albanian President's brother controlling the drone??! Who are these people? I suppose the only way forward is to refuse to split teams up. If they cant be trusted not to try to kill each other then they get booted out until they can behave. If a team - Spain - refuses to play another - Gibraltar - then they get an automatic 3-0 defeat

UEFA used to have a hot balls system for avoiding this sort of thing. I guess the break-up of Yugoslavia makes that impossible. Does anyone like the Serbs? Russia?

there is some sort of system they have as for example Gibraltar arent allowed to play Spain. To me Serbia v Albania sounds a lot tastier than Gibraltar v Spain but what do I know? I suppose it could get tricky in that part of Europe on who would be prepared to play against who. Too many idiots in this world.

My first pre season memories are game against Rochdale where the action on the pitch was matched with the action off it, it was in the 80's mind, didnt they play for the Rose Bowl or something like that ?

yes I remember that. Two successive outbreaks of aggro saw the end of the Rose Bowl

Stockport hate Citeh and before Citeh was massive club there was a fair bit of dislike from them aswell

yes, I worked in Wythenshawe briefly when Stockport were good - Flynn in defence etc - and City & Stockport were the biggest contingents of fans. And they definitely didnt like each other.

these things take time to seed. If we play them over a number of seasons then the young uns will take a dislike to them.A lot depends on what era you got Latics deeply imprinted on you. I hate Man City so much yet many of you dont give two figs, which I find puzzling but that's the way these things go. Others a bit younger than me had a thing about Wigan for example - I really couldnt give two hoots either way about them. I find Tranmere and Huddersfield vaguely distasteful but not worth getting worked up over.

We have spent the vast majority of the past 40 odd years at a higher level than Rochdale and they've had their thing with Bury to get on with - but they do call us Biffo's. We cant even be arsed crafting a name for them.

Anyway, Im looking forward to it. I have no animosity whatsoever towards Rochdale and in fact doff my cap to their fans. Still, I'd *love it* if we dicked them at Spotland. Let's have a right royal knees up. Anyone got any Cyril Smith songs?

It's all a huge RU consipiracy to crush small semi pro RL teams. Oxford RL form, London Welsh immediately move to the town. Coventry Bears get a place in the league for 2015, Wasps immediately move.

Wasps are parasites (the team not the errr Wasps, although some of them are too I'm sure) who have seen an opening. Much as their northern Vichyball chums at Sale did. AND ALL THE REST OF THEM *foam foam*

It appears that while some are rushing to buy Dale tickets, some are waiting to see if Latics are in the top six and others are trying to find the cash for trips to Peterborough, Chesterfield, Bristol City and Sheffield United in the hope of encouraging the team into such a lofty position.

I wont be at any of the those others but I'll be at Gillingham which I'm led to believe is THE proof of fandom

well the ticketing portal crashed on me when I was buying my pair. I took that to mean ferocious demand, hundreds of people hitting refresh all at once. You could claim it's purely that Latics' ticket portal is biz but you're be wrong. Big Match Fever is upon us

would be very very surprised if we dont sell this out. Myself and big bruv are going and neither of us have been to Latics since March. It's *that* big. One of Europe's top derbys,not a sell out? No way