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makes me laugh, in a sneery condescending way, how wanting out of the EU and having an immigration system akin to Australia or Canada is somehow evil and nasty and racist. If twitter were to be believed UKIP are nothing less than an exact facsimile of the 1920's Nazi Party.

I always knew those new fangled GCSE things would eventually produce a nation of slobbering halfwits

if you google Brighton Council Green Party there's a whole host of sorry tales of woe. It seems they elect all councillors every four years there so they're not up in front of the voters again until next year. After consulting my spirit guide I confidently predict they will face annihilation at the polls and that also Caroline Lucas will be an ex-MP

I think you may be exaggerating a bit there. Brighton is a Green controlled council and they haven't suffered. Yes some of their ideas are mental but we are talking about EU elections here, not letting them run this country.

 

Their manifesto policies are a lot more sensible than the list above and they are for having a referendum to decide whether or not to leave the EU.

 

I think it would just be refeshing to see some change from Tories and labour for once. And I don't think the lib Dems offer much different anymore and UKIP are definitely not the right vote for me!!

I was reading somewhere that Brighton has been a bit of a disaster. Can't remember whether that was new news or old news though. Or whether it was from a particularly partisan source. Like my weekly subscription to Der Stürmer or some such

Green party, out of interest, what are their crackpot ideas at the moment? Having read their manifesto, their are things that I disagree with them on, but nothings striking me as too crackpot if i'm honest. I have the feeling that I could be missing something.

unsurprisingly,they are the hardest of the hardcore global warming/climate change catastrophe cult believers.The economyas we know it must be dismantled to save the world.Even

though if we all collectively in the UK committed suicide it wouldn't make a blind bit of difference to what they believe is going to happen.

We must have a zero carbon economy by 2030.65% reduction by 2020. Get ready for your allocated 4 hours of electricity.

Heavy taxation on businesses to get that carbon footprint down. Heavy taxation on water consumption! Tax the bajaysus out of all road hauliers.

No new roads. Ever.

No new airports. No new runways. Ever. Very heavy tax on aviation fuel.No cheap flights abroad for you proles ever again. Stop flights of less than 500km.

Road pricing. You'll be paying by the mile for your Latics away trips. Not including the insanely high fuel tax. The fuel tax escalator is back for evah.

Falklands back to Argentina. Yes, we agree with self-determination but not for those stinking colonialists. Presume the same goes for Gibraltar

Immediate nuclear disarmament. Immediate withdrawal from NATO. Severing of any close relationships with the USA.

Armed Forces to be pretty much scrapped. A few fisheries protection vessels and a couple of thousand soldiers. Not sure why they want fisheries protection vessels as they want the EU to be in charge of who fishes what.

Shut down the British arms industry

There are no such things as terrorists. That is just a loaded term used by Governments to justify their own terrorist acts. No,seriously. Nobody to be deported for any such acts,even if the other government promises not to touch a hair on their head.Questioning of so called 'terrorist' suspects to be limited to 7 days.

Homeopathy to be provided across the board by the NHS.

Legalise Heroin, crack, Crystal Meth, whatever

All animal testing halted. Whatever it's for

Complete opposition to any GM crops. Even though they can save lives in the third world

Pharmaceutical companies to hand over all their data so that it can be used cheaply in the 3rd world. Nice in theory but why spend hundreds of millions and then give it away for free. End result the end of the British pharmaceutical industry.

Taxes for people with more than one TV

Force companies to break up head offices and centres of production and instead spread these around the country. Move everything to a local economy.Why have one big biscuit factory when every town have one?

Give up GB's place on the UN permanent security council and persuade the rest to do so too. I'm sure they'll see reason.

Make all illegal immigrants legal

Question the nature of fforeign countries debt by acknowledging the historical ecological debt owed by rich to poor countries. Write everything off but then that's not all - we then owe them for various eco crimes committed by our economy

No more stop and search by the Police as it damages relations between Police & Youth

Raise Booze & Fags tax by 50%

and on and on and on. Just keep googling until your brain hurts.

Some of the above people would agree with but looking at their beliefs as a whole, what they're actually striving for and I think they're out to lunch.Or perhaps you agree with it all in which case I shall just humbly disagree (and do that twirly finger pointing at my head thing & simultaneously pulling a face whilst standing behind you)

I remember that two days after I turned 18 there was a European Election. I thought I'd vote for the Greens as they werent like the others and then, woahhhhh, I actually read their bumf - crackpots is putting it lightly. I'm surprised Labour and Lib Dems never put any effort into shining a light on the Green Party - there are a lot more crossover votes in it for them than ranting on about UKIP. Although I suppose they're useful idiots in the march to a Federal European state

bloody magic week that was. Even though that lot *spit* won the league that day of the Villa win. Wasn't at that game but was at the following 2 home games. In your face Palace!

(according to that site...) BNP, UKIP, Conservative, Labour, Lib Dems, Green

& no I won't be voting for the BNP. Nor have I ever. Nor will I ever. Although perhaps slightly more chance than ever voting Green ;-)

cant help getting the feeling that we are being set up for a fall here dickhead dyke and his cronies know this would never get through and would meet with lots of opposition watch them "listen to the fans/clubs etc " and withdraw it but substitute something else as "we took this away but are gonna have to do this rather than nothing " and it be a fudge that in the long run doesent do anything for the clubs outside the premier league

 

I'm also thinking along those lines."great news guys, we've listened to your feedback and are pulling the B team idea.Instead *drum roll* we've decided to let PL clubs buy FL clubs.Everyone's a winner"

It's also so crap & unloved in Germany that the DFB are allowing clubs to wind their B teams up.Bayer&Eintracht are doing so this summer I believe

dreadful.The interests of the elite put before everyone else . it'd be a kick in the face to the conference clubs & once these reserve teams rise up the league it'll impact on everyone's attendances.Think they'll bring any fans with them? It'd probably also increase their hoovering up of any talent worth speaking of.

I know the chant was obviously sung through ignorance but come on people, educate yourselves innit.

just realised I was staring to sound a little like Dennis here:

;-)

So I shall call it a day!

I'm not even sure it's not longer than every 3 years. I don't think it is appropriate to have the chair's position come up for re-election annually, and think 3 years is about right, but I don't think it is appropriate to have the chair only elected by the board.

I can't see the problem with it being annual. If nobody wants to stand against then there is no election. Much much bigger organisations than Trust Oldham get along just fine with an annual AGM with the possibility of dethroning those at the head

edit - 3 years is still fine (by me) though

edit edit - but there would have to be something in the constitution about triggering an election if a certain % of members thought the man/woman in charge should be deposed.

 

Isn't it every three years ? and the member would have to be a a Trust director and is chosen by the other trust directors...

 

Members don't get a say...

 

Hence the need for the reform you mentioned....

yes, I was positing a better way of doing things.

regardless of whether you think BO is doing a good job or a bad job I think it's blindingly obvious the Trust itself needs to be reformed. Be open, transparent. Have a webpage that keeps everybody up to date on it's activities. Have its head not also doing a dual role for the club. Regular elections. Don't like what Barry's doing? Then every year at the AGM any member can stand against him (after perhaps getting x amount of signatures backing their candidature).If the members think Barry is the best for the role then he gets re-elected, if he doesn't whoever the new person is then steps up and we see how he/she gets on. It's not rocket science. Such a trust and it's meetings then become the talking shop, not here where we achieve nothing.

The trust the fans currently have is worthless.I'd happily rejoin if it reformed or I'd join a new one set up if this one dissolved.

Current Trust members, whoever you all are, get together go to Supporters Direct and say "look, we've lost our way a bit here. Could you help us out" and get this thing fixed. Unless, of course, you think it's all hunky dory.

I just hope they lose

& that they fully disinfect after they've been.

I dont think there's any real point in rail seats unless you have designs on playing in European competition - and even then there's other ways of doing it (Schalke dont have rail seats but can still put the seats in when needed). You can have a 'safe' terrace without them, it is however probably the only way of us getting standing in this country without the mong majority flipping out.

excellent, thanks Palmer1. Like many others I cant watch that Leeds one again - dont want to pick at that particular scab.

Just made myself really angry by watching Henry's 'goal' in the 1990 replay - and Jimmy Hill is wittering on about what a great save it was, ignoring the evidence in front of his eyes.Lynam mutters that it looked as if it went in and then that's that "move along, nothing to see here". Aarrrrggggggggggggggghhhhhh. I could see it was a goal from our section of the Kippax ffs, Worral you bent bugger

He was ripped to :censored: with us and fast, I struggle to believe that he is bigger and slower on account of more muscle alone

ok, he's a fat effer. His shirt is XXXXL and each moob weighs a couple of stone

He's somewhat chunkier(muscle), slower & yes, not as good

No doubt he'd still do a job in league 1 but probably too pricey

to be fair to some of the foamy mouth types on twitter they're just kids. I'd lay good money on a few of those quoted being under 16. Just wash their mouths out with soap and water and send 'em off to bed without their ovaltine. Twitter and Message Boards gives everyone an equal say, be you 80 or 8, insane or quite normal. Best to filter out most of it. You wouldnt bother listening to a group of 14 year olds gobbing off in person so why bother online? And they might be potty mouthed little scrotes howling at the moon but one day they might be fine upstanding citizens.

Just in case anyone thinks I've gone soft - birch 'em! That'll learn 'em.

think the atmosphere sounded better from elsewhere than amongst you lot. General consensus from Lpool fans seemed to be that you lot were noisy. Listening on LFC TV on the day & Oldham songs were the only ones to be heard.

As for keeping quiet during YNWA, is that for real or a joke??

cheers.I suspect she's in the same class as the Guardian (or Observer) journo who got sent to Millwall v Brighton to report on racism a few years ago. They left, horrified, after seeing thousands of people stretching their arms out and shouting 'Sieg Heil'. They actually printed it. Turns out, surprise surprise, it was the Brighton end shouting 'Seagulls'.

doh! Quick off the mark as ever :-)

there was something on twitter from a relative of his. he had 24 (I think) friends&relatives sat together apparently. He was waving at them