Max Damage

I stick by what I say. Multi culturism does not work. I have friends from other cultures and they all have one thing in common. they all have integrated into our society, so on a small scale it does work but only because they have a desire to work and fit in to the society they have come to. The majority do not and the evidence in the UK is overwhelming in birmingham, Bradford, Leicester, Oldham, etc, etc. They form their own communities and there is no hiding from that. The reasons why that happens can be argued from both sides but the fact remains there is a divide and a split between communities and mass immigration always results in that split.

So facts on labour policy is now right wing bollocks? True to form then mate as I saw nothing right wing in calling a policy of discrimination on colour and race as racist. I see it as a fact that is helping to create more racism, and more hatred and it is no good burying your head in the sand. Just go round the areas of Birmingham around the Bull Ring to see Labours multi culturism at its absolute finest. I am sure that is all my fault also for believing in fair play and values for all and also having a belief that those who choose to reside in a country should show respect for its culture and not increacingly demand more and more changes to that culture to suit themselves.

In the end multi culturism does not work because one will always want to dominate the other. It can only work if those entering any country know the rules of entry and know that that country will not allow its culture to be changed because wether you like it or not the majority of muslims want the muslim way of life and the majority of christians want their way of life and the two are poles apart as I see it.

Multi culturism in the labour and socialist sense today is an impossible ideal. History shows it, and history constantly repeats it with war, after war, after war. And no matter which country you go to in any part of the world with large immigration from 1 background they create their own communities and they try to change things to their own way within that community they set up. The Brits do it abroad, the muslims do it and if they could the christians would do it in the middle east.

And that is before you get onto the facts that the immigrant community is rife with racism when it comes to Casts, siehks, bangladeshis, Indian, muslim pakistani, christian pakistani, etc, etc

Goodnight

Here come the labour cannot be racist brigade. The fact is they want to bring in laws to discriminate based on sex and colour. That is racism and sexism no matter how anyone wants to dress it up and from a party who has accused every man and his dog of racism for far, far less the past 12 years.

More votes for the vile BNP have just been assured by this discriminatory policy which will foster more issues, more distrust, and more antagonism.

Commenting on Latics is just far too depressing at the moment!!!!

It gives the option to say you did not get employed because you were white when all else was equal. That is racism in my book. The best person for the job should get it everytime as there will never be a case in my view of everything being equal because everyone is different.

the qoute came from our beloved national press.

Well here is some NHS bumph on employment and the targeting of certain groups

http://www.manchesterpublichealthdevelopme...e%20Summary.pdf

The scheme was very successful at recruiting people from local

communities, especially from black and minority ethnic (BME) groups.

However the majority of recruits were not workless, despite the fact that

almost half of the applicants overall were unemployed. Most

stakeholders were keen to try and target more men in the next

recruitment round, particularly young men and Afro-Caribbean men.

Other suggested target groups included disabled people; older and

younger people; and lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people.

Well they can't call the BNP racist anymore can they. People in glass houses and all that.

Liebour are a racist and sexist party. Wonder if Peter Hain will keep his high moral standards and resign from this racist party and ask the BBC to deny it a media platform?

From the Queens speech today

Equality

 

* Companies with more than 250 employees will be given 'gender pay audits'.

* Firms will be able to favour equally qualified women over men and black and Asian candidates over white people when recruiting.

* Firms will be able to favour equally qualified women over men and black and Asian people over white people when recruiting.

* Bans age discrimination outside the workplace

There it is in black and white.

Damn ;)

I know you are but R&J's was also on Union Street as it was on the corner of union and king street with side entrances on chaucer street ;)

It puts them on 3 different streets ;)

King Street, Union street, and was it chaucer street?

On the corner opposite Halfords. The door defo looks like it is from there. R&J/Froggys/Butterflies

We've a perfectly capable striker on our books, who is scoring goals ....

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Paedophilia is currently in the ICD-10 so its technically an illness- homosexuality isn't (it was in the version before- ICD-9), but transvesitism is. The argument therefore is a very interesting one as technically doctors would be obligied to refer someone with paedophilia for treatment, if treatment was availible- there isn't really any. I'm not saying they aren't scum (they are) but it does put it in a difficult legal, social, and ethical perspective.

As i said in my first post comparing into to gays. It is a state of mind. The difference is that this is an unacceptable state of mind and can only be dealt with via castration imho

I think we will have to agree to disagree. Porn on the internet if consenting adults is not the same as child porn where the child is not willfully consenting to anything and by viewing they are encouraging those who make the images. Please note I used the word IF on internet porn for consenting adults as I am aware alot of porn is not a consenting adult, but with children I would say non are consenting to it.

Did anyone watch the documentry on the police peodophile section recently? Very disturbing to watch and almost all of those caught had no records and some of the abuse was extreme.

I am going to bow out of this discussion before it gets too heated. Its a very complex and emotive subject. I think its more complicated than just putting people down.

NO I would say putting them all down would make it very simple

Garcon I disagree as I believe peadophile is the same as a gay person. It is how they are and nothing will change them. You try saying you can be cured to a gay person!!! A peado is no different imho and thus can never be cured. Their reoffending rate is sky high because they see it as normal behaviour.

Being gay is acceptable as it does not affect anyone else and is between consenting adults, I have family members who are gay and they knew when they were kids as it was natural for them. Peodophiles have nobody to give them consent and there state of mind leads to abhorant sexual behaviour with children that can only be stopped in one way I believe. You cannot integrate them back into society as they will reoffend as soon as they can.

Don't underestimate how devious these people can be.

Hold on, OAFC0000 can have him next door. Once a kiddy fiddler, always a kiddy fiddler because they see it as normal behaviour, and because it is part of their make up they will never change. They are born that way and it is an illness that is unacceptable with the only solution being permanent exclusion from society or castration to remove the sex drive.

St James Church in shaw?

I hope he doesn't bother. We have enough scum in Oldham without adding him to the pile

Maybe they wanted the pork took off the menu

http://www.oldham-chronicle.co.uk/news-fea...-smashes-up-pub

The hard facts are OAFC is broke and TTA have bankrolled it. They tried for promotion and the gamble failed, so now they have to cut back and the muppets don't like it because they don't understand simple finance.

I think Failsworth is a mistake and won't happen due to the opposition to it. That will then see TTA go I fear and that will leave us in a complete mess again.

Aye I can see your point since the scots and welshies want to be seperate. Or do they? Most I know don't and blame it on career politicians wanting jobs for the boys!!

Well at least most of us are BIFFO's but I guess some sensitive souls on here will get offended by it rather than have a chuckle.

A Brit and proud to be a Brit and not stupid enough to see any offence in being described as a Brit.

Aye very true Mickey. They give socialists a bad name. They have betrayed the very name, unless of course you believe that socialists main agenda is control through dependency on the state because they always know better than us.