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51 minutes ago, jsslatic said:

 

Christ. They are watched!

Are you sure? I have it on good authority that the physio room has been taken over so it can house the statsbomb supercomputer. When we need a player, Darren Royle goes in the room, puts the headset on and speaks into the microphone... "computer, we need a striker". After a few minutes of clicks and whirrs, the console lights up and a ticker tape comes out with 3 recommendations on it, selected purely because of their stats. DR then chooses the name, feeds it back into the computer and clicks the button for 3 year contract. The computer then faxes the club in question with contract.

Who needs scouts?

I don’t see the point in getting wound up by a possible signing because other fans tell us they’re shit. Hartlepool fans told us Shelton was amazing. We laughed at Port Vale for taking Garrity. Maybe we learn from that and refrain from bed wetting until we’ve seen someone actually play?

18 minutes ago, BP1960 said:

 

How will stats bombs discover a young prospect at lower level, he will hardly  have any?

Scouting isn't always about targets, I've often been sent watch players and found  better in the same  team and the opposition.

 

 

Isn’t it used in addition to, rather than instead of, traditional scouting methods?

1 minute ago, League one forever said:

 

As well as - I know what what good looks likes. 
 

We’ve also had- I look with my eyes. 
 

I don’t think Mellon wants to choose from a pre selected computer/data list.

 

For example - when looking for a right back, I don’t think he trusts being given a list 5 right backs when he might not know or rate four of them and he’s only left with one choice. I think he wants (and he will get) full autonomy and it will go back to old school.  Basically him ringing the 2 or 3 right backs he really likes and finding the best deal for the club. 

The list isn’t exclusively made up of statsbomb generated players is it? My understanding is that any target list would be compiled by a combination of more traditional sources and additional players statsbomb throws up. The theory being that using it increases the number of players that might get looked at, rather than totally replacing traditional methods. 
 

It would probably be useful for the recruitment process to be clarified at the fans forum. 

52 minutes ago, League one forever said:

We’ve had exactly that with stats bomb, and Mellon doesn’t like it, because he knows what good looks like. . and he doesn’t want to choose from a computer generated list of targets. I’ll be staggered if another incarnation of data contributing recruitment is wanted or sanctioned 

It would be a bit counterproductive if “knowing what good looks like” means getting rid of stats so reducing the number of players on a list of possible targets that then gets scouted in more traditional way wouldn’t it? 
 

I would have thought it was more likely to be a swipe at Unsworth and Thompson. Or maybe a plea for time and backing. 

1 hour ago, League one forever said:

Stats bomb wasn’t working.  

So you say! You have no proof of this. You don't know how it was used, you don't know how influential it was, you don't know what the plan is with it in the future.

One element of the interview I liked to hear was the rejection of a blame culture way of running things. 
 

It’s a too simplistic way of looking at things, ie blaming individual people (sack the manager) or individual things (put statsbomb in the bin) as some sort of easy fix to bigger problems. I’m happy to hear they run the business in a way that they assess it more completely and look to see how things can be done better. Long term it should stand us in good stead. 

Just now, AndyB2 said:

Yes. 
 

When I delegate decisions at work the buck still stops with me.

 

its disapointing that the club has sanctioned do much spending on shite. The board, including DR, have a level of responsibility for that. 
 

That’s my opinion on how businesses are run. I don’t believe football clubs are any different in that regard 

They haven’t sanctioned spending on shite. They’ve sanctioned spending on players the recruitment team deemed to be the right players at the time. Any faults with that process should lie entirely with the recruitment team. DR oversees them so it’s his job to work with them and identify what went wrong so mistakes don’t get repeated in the future, not to start making decisions on whether he thinks prospective signings are good enough or not. 

12 minutes ago, BradKnowles1 said:

Madden staying in league two 

Salford? Can see them going for him. 

Watched a Stockport game this season where Madden played really well behind a front 2. Think I suggested it as a possible role for Norwood. 

9 minutes ago, Lee Sinnott said:

What a completely bizarre story to make up...

My memory isn’t great at the best of times but in the back of my mind I’m sure I remember someone on here complaining about a manager of ours travelling south to watch a midweek game. 
 

However, who am I to argue with the latics mind champion so maybe you’re right and I made the whole thing up. 

2 minutes ago, Lags said:

 

Penalties it is..... who will win it?

Whichever way it goes they’ve both been great and to use a well worn cliche… it’s been a great advert for the national league. 

Really enjoying this play off final. Great game. 
 

Shows how important working for each other is, this is worlds apart from the team we watched over those last couple of months. 

1 hour ago, BP1960 said:

I'll predict now Alfie Atherton will start next season after impressing in pre season friendlies - unless he's sold on.

Having 7 subs and being able to use 5 from next season is a game changer and hopefully should help massively with a pathway from the youth team to first team. 

So whoever has finished 17th down and the promoted sides get a fixture advantage in the next season? Seems fair

7 subs in the national league next season. Should mean more opportunities for the young players. 

Rock bottom for me was Crawley at home. Going to the ground for the protest then walking away before the game started not knowing what was going to happen to the club. 
 

Since the takeover I’ve felt we’ve been on the up. Although that feeling has obviously been massively tested with some of our results down here!!

8 minutes ago, BP1960 said:

 

Yes I can see that  aspect, but there's only one way to find out and that's to try them.

Remember how Chris Taylor relished his debut.

Yes I’d like to see more coming through. Maybe we’ll see a few in action pre season. 

I’m not convinced that putting youth team players on the pitch in those last few games with the atmosphere as it was would have been a good decision. 
 

Obviously no abuse would have been directed at them but they might have felt the pressure of that atmosphere. Plus the way the rest of the team were playing I don’t think would have done them any favours either. I’m more interested in what we do next with our promising youths, if any get contracts over the summer and if they get game time in the first team if everything about the club is more positive next season. 

2 minutes ago, Dave_Og said:

 Ronnie Edwards.  Never heard of him

Blimey. That's some return for Barnet, looks like he only played once for them.

3 minutes ago, League one forever said:

I’ve no issue there in principle. 
 

If he doesn’t want to play them, and it quickly becomes clear who is contracted but not fancied - then fine. 
 

But it’s not that simple is it. 
 

He banished Reid- and Kitching decided he didn’t want to play football anymore. 
 

Fine- banish Kitching, and sign a new left back. 
 

Kitching then becomes Reid this season- there. .  but never playing. . . and the cycle starts again. 
 

Mellon is very much my way or fuck off. Fine. 
 

But he’s not at a club and situation to be able to do that. He needs to adapt for the greater good, to buy himself the time needed to finish the job. 
 

Just saying- right, everybody out- none of you are good enough Is never going to work. He needs to be a lot cuter in how deals with players instead being so black and white. 

You keep implying that his words/actions can be taken by the squad to be him meaning all of them. I don’t think that’s the case with what he’s said. In fact he’s said a few times that he has good players who need others to come in and help them out. 

42 minutes ago, yarddog73 said:

Alty 1-0 up at Bromley, Linney goal with a Conn-Clarke assist.

 

Nobody can tell me that these playoff teams have more overall ability than we have, they just seem to have a plan and style of play and stick with it.

 

They are also proving as well that once you are in them anyone can progress.

Yep, so much of it is about organisation. And set pieces as well. We desperately need to learn how to defend and score from set pieces.

Watching that group of 13 year old pricks pretend charging the away fans and filming themselves celebrating is giving me mixed feelings about this game. Really don't want them to win, but then again I really don't want to have them lording it up over us for a 3rd time next season.

1 minute ago, Dave_Og said:

I do know that if that happens he'd be the first since Lee Johnson to start and finish a season 

That’s what got me looking at it. By my reckoning Les McDowell is the last manager who’d had a previous job to get a season and a half. Ronnie Moore with 14 months is the best since then. 

Stattos may have to help/correct me here, but I was looking at our list of managers because of our high turnover rate and I think I’ve discovered a bit of a weird stat. If Mellon stays til the end of next season that would be the longest time an experienced manager will have been given by us since the 1960s. Anyone since then who’s served longer has been in their first full time managerial role.