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1 hour ago, GlossopLatic said:

Morning everyone how's everyone's head hope some of you saw sense today and booked it off work.

I've been considering throwing today's shift since about 7am.

What I'd like to see is Lemsagam, Wild, Clarke etc really encourage supporters to get to the game on Saturday. Even better would a reduction in admission prices to get a load of yesterday's following - and more besides - into the ground for a league game.

Very tough game, but the momentum and confidence gained if we could get a win heading would be so beneficial. We're heading into that part of the season comparable to the stage in a horse race when jockeys start to clamber for position.

A memorable day. 

For the craziness of the final 15 minutes, that beats our three Premier League topples.

Atmosphere incredible and the players were superb.

Missilou. Probably the best individual performance since Craig Rocastle's masterclass in shielding a defence down at Swansea.

He certainly deserves the chance. I bet he can't believe his life at the moment.

A very comfortable win against a terrible side. The difficulty we have is that struggle to play through teams and rely on most of our chances being created from a wide position. When the likes of County have both winger and full-back dropped deep we soon run out of ideas.

Good luck to the lad. I would expect nothing short of complete commitment from the players, in dedication to Bunn and to our supporters who had to watch their Boxing Day Hunt impersonation. 

7 hours ago, rudemedic said:

Playing Devil's advocate slightly...

 

But AL hasn't sacked that many staff. Lots of those who have left have gone to other things. They have announced their last days and there has been well wishes etc. Appointing replacements isn't as easy. I was actually working in the same office and it took 4 months for me to start working my new role. The time I changed organisations it was nearly 6 months. 

 

Some of those who have left the club have had some legitimate reasoning too. 

The Accountant- The issue with Corney's misdoings (Remember how AL said there were hidden accountancy issues) I wouldn't employ the same accountant after that (innocent or not). 

The Media Guy- Maybe AL received a complaint from Gary Davies and AL agreed with his complaint. 

 

A lot of his more vocal (former) staff members are on Twitter have an axe to grind. Simon Wood has an issue with him over pay but that's his problem given the bizarre circumstances he works in. (Don't forget he won an Amateur TV competition). 

 

A lot of Corney's hires were fresh-faced, straight out of uni types. Corney hired on the cheap and maybe AL had enough of their poor standard of work. 

 

We do not know what the Administrator did to apparently get sacked. We don't actually know who the administrator is. There are lots of reasons why someone gets sacked, lots of them apply in other industries and aren't connected to the boss being an alleged clown. 

 

Yes it is sad when people with families are let go, but sometimes letting someone go is the right decision. (I've not seen any Employment Tribunals announced). I'm inclined to think there is something in it but like I said above maybe AL has different standards. 

This would fly a bit better if we hadn't been relegated and had three - soon to be four - managers in little more than 12 month.

Another utterly baffling, mindless and stupid decision by someone who is going to ruin our football club. 

Lemsagam out. A banner is required.

11 minutes ago, deyres42 said:

Heard the owner had a few things to say after Saturday and it didn't go down well.

Absolutely no evidence to suggest the players have a problem with Bunn. I'd say it is the opposite.

Just now, Kusunga_Is_God said:

It's no coincidence. They had only shipped 7 away from home all season previously. Not buying that. 

It happens mate. If owt, you're letting them off the hook with an easy excuse.

8 minutes ago, Kusunga_Is_God said:

These are athletes who haven't prepared for the game properly at all. The buck stops at the management who have allowed this to happen.

It's totally ruined any momentum we had and has really put me off from going to Fulham.

Give over lad. The ease at which cliches are spewed on this forum is staggering. If a team gets a pasting on Boxing Day, you can rest assured this nonsense comes out. Are you suggesting every player involved today organised themselves to get on a run of double brandy's yesterday? We got slapped for six today; there are no excuses for it, the players ought to be ashamed but it happens and can happen at any time.

We happened to fall on the same side when Bunn was announced and there are a few supporters on this forum who irritate me from the other side, but I'm not so set against the man to alter my opinion after each and every game.

That said, we need an urgent review of our back four. He didn't ask for it from the pillock with the pre-match mic - "Captain. Leader. Legend" for making 100 appearances was nauseating to hear - but Peter Clarke and Frankie need to have a serious conversation.

We seemed out of ideas after an hour, we were dire in defence for the entire game and yet we still deserved a point.

Disappointed.

That was as well as I've seen us play for a long, long time. Our ball control was just brilliant.

I fancy both will come flying out. Looking forward to a good game and I reckon we'll win.

3-1.

I wasn't there today, but it sounds like we played well and deserved to win. Bury ought to be an exciting game.

Yellow card at best.

18 minutes ago, rossy52 said:

don't normally reply to t*ats but KoG you really are a dick , Tranmere have the best home record in the division  and we outplayed them for most of the game , who do you think we are Real  Madrid . On another day we would win but it is still a good result , why don't you follow Man City! just think how happy you would be !!!!

Make your mind up.

However, yes, I agree: a good point. With Lincoln arriving on Tuesday, it would have helped us considerably if we'd have been able to hang on, but we can't expect to win a game in this league. We have our standard and we have to earn every point. If we can find a way of scoring the second game, we can have a decent December (Third Round of the FA Cup; perhaps nine points from the five league games) and be in the top 10 come next year.

Surridge returning is crucial.

EDIT: Goal, not game.

3 minutes ago, ShireBlue said:

Abdallah in the away end..

I hope someone slashes up the back of his leg.

This is an excellent game.

From the supporters' point of view, we could be have had a turgid first half and only start to create with ten minutes remaining. As it is, we could have scored five before half-time.

The running of our place would make a Cold War espionage flick look tame. If Bunn has been handed his P45, we'd have known two week before even he knew.

6 hours ago, kowenicki said:

 

Why are you so argumentative?

 

That isn’t what he said. He said “why should we expect”.  Pretty clear to me. Unless you are being argumentative.  

 

If he meant something else and wants to word it better then that would be helpful. 

 

Oh... and it’s a forum. It exists pretty much solely for people to espouse their opinion and to engender debate and argument. 

 

Anyhow a clever bloke once said “Seek out argument and disputation for their own sake; the grave will supply plenty of time for silence.”

 

 

This is just bliss.

You are all over the bloody shop.

22 hours ago, kowenicki said:

 

 

Impulsive? In my view people have given him a chance...16 games does indeed represent giving him a chance... its a third of a season.  Not impulsive. 

 

Having said that, I reserve the right to change my mind again.  If we win three or four on the bounce I’ll be all... “Bunn in!”  .  Football fans are fickle. So what? 

 

I’m sure you have been impulsive in your life (I would certainly hope so).  I’m not going to try and trawl through the forum to prove you have done so here, that would be pointless and childish. 

 

It’s only football. I’m not changing my mind over anything important.  

 

Oh and plenty of appropriate candidates would apply and take the job... very naive to think otherwise.  The question is not who would apply, but who would be appointed. 

 

Putting aside your odd interpretation of what a football supporters' forum on which football supporters contribute ideas and opinions and engage in a bit of back-and-forth is for, I can only conclude that you accept having employed three managers over the course of a single season.

As I have stated, you are very much part of the problem.

20 hours ago, kowenicki said:

 

“Steady”. 

 

1 win in 8 league games. 

4 defeats in those 8.

 

6 points from 24. 

 

Wake up. 

Although I believe in allowing for revision of a standpoint, the rate at which you do is worthy of highlight and question so let me just put this to you:

"Whilst I’m not exactly leaping around at the appointment.... give the guy a fucking chance!  Jesus."

Indeed, that is one of your many contributions to this forum in the days after the appointment of Bunn. Ultimately it is for you to decide your own definition of giving somebody a chance, a fair crack of the whip, and clearly you're happy to ask for drastic change after a eight-game run - or 16 league games in total - which you're entitled to do. However, I submit that with your impulsive reactions and record of altering your opinion you are very much part of the problem. You're not alone, of course; this forum is full of similar types and they, too, help contribute to our unstable position.

There are too few examples to be offered that can justify the sacking of a manager after 16 league games and only to find themselves in a healthier position come the end of that season once a replacement has been sourced, nor has Bunn, who you might recall I raised immediate doubts about, been given ample chance to improve a club clearly destined for more years of struggle. A summary of the problems:

1. We appointed Bunn in the close-season when more preferable names were available

2. The running of the club has deteriorated to such an extent that I struggle to name a possible candidate who would take the job

3. Money is tight - if not non-existent. The weekly envelope has not been guaranteed for several years

Ordinarily I would expect a newly-relegated club to aim for an immediate return to the division they dropped out of, but who can articulate a case for this? When you evaluate the state in which we are, I believe you are left solely with hope. Bunn lacks a lot, but I am not nervous or fearing a season over which we are consistently in the bottom six or seven. As others have stated, he does have the players' respect and that should see us right come May. Not exciting, not something to cheer about, but it is the best case to be made.

7 hours ago, lookersstandandy said:

 

....I wonder if he has any idea of what an absolute tit he [already does] will look like if he sacks another manager, while not being able to enter the country, not paying wages on time / having our best [loan] player unavailable through "injury". I suspect he's unaware....

Football supporters have long past caring so why would club owners? There are countless examples to demonstrate the dire state - I'm not talking about the obscene sums of money attached to to; there are many who would argue that the financial state is rosy. I'm talking about traits such as principle and loyalty - but Ranieri's dismissal at Leicester is a good and recent example. Providing shirts are being flogged in China and supporters can video record footballers celebrating a goal with a silly manoeuvre, looking like a tit doesn't register.

Of course, what you refer to ought to be enough to make a cat laugh but the social media people simply had to create a few short videos referring to the club's new 'journey' or 'story' to announce the sale of the club and it's lapped up - like the milk the laughing cat is too preoccupied to sup.