GuyGermanLatic

So much for German efficiency

Sometimes I just can't tell my schnitzels from my bockwurst...

For FUtball's sake.

Cheers, this can be closed.

Somebody please tell me that our fixture for Monday 1st April is not at 3pm?

My flight is more important that a prank...

http://www.oldhamathletic.co.uk/fixtures-results/fixtures-list/

Oh, like others said, go on those going down and getting stuck in. Sounds like a promising guy with decent ideas and a new vision.

Yes. He wants more of it. Suggested a singing section too!

 

Feels the place is a bit flat.

Brilliant stuff! Tah.

Can I just ask to confirm:

I've heard the fans and singing were mentioned. Is this true?

At last, a manager talking my language!

Johnson for England!

Cheers. Can the apostrophe be deleted from ATHLETICO'S?

Wasnt me.

Can we get some of those super sticky stickers so I can deface other club's grounds/service station toilets/random places up and down the country?

Yes, actually. We're gettin' all kinds of shizzle! Seriously, we are.

Hate to double post but what we really need is a big influx of support and ideas from other fans. We have the people and willpower - well, that's hard to guarantee - from other fans who want the idea to become a reality but have no way of going away. Hence us.

Anything you guys can suggest to help us out would be brilliant.

I'll chip in a bit for a banner if you promise to keep the Eintracht/St Pauli nonsense to an absolute minimum ;-)

That can be done.

One suggestion - get rid of the 'I'm a B*$*^£d' video from the site - it somehow does not sit well with the principles of a movement that purports to take inspiration from the Sankt Pauli principled beginnings.

It's one of the most famous chants but we have time to work on them. That said, the St. Pauli vs. HSV chants certainly aren't pretty... Meh, not sure.

Will be getting together with a few of the guys starting this as I'm home for a nice 2 weeks very soon. We'll sort out the direction we want it to go in and whatnot but right now, as you pointed out, we want to take inspiration from Frankfurt & St. Pauli.

For this to work we need to spread the word and everyone needs to chip in and be aware of it

Exactly. Well we have the blog getting a lot of attention, our Facebook page and a few good connections on there.

What's next? Flyers, posters, etc.? I'll arrange something.

Support so far has been great

Really like the idea of organising a core of singing fans, getting banners and making some noise but has anything actually happened yet?

 

There aren't any banners in the RRE, there aren't many fans who sing and there isn't much of an atmosphere.

 

I'm all for schemes like this and I'm a massive advocate of safe standing and bringing back the terraces to football but I don't understand how it's 'almost complete'...other than a few flags there's nothing to say we have a set of ULTRAS or an atmosphere....

There are already a few banners - regardless of how plain or simple - made by a few of the ones wanting to help start it up.

I get where you're coming from. The scene right now is "messy" in terms of having fans who sing here and there or just enough to have an atmosphere. The idea of this is to bind them together under one unit and give that "mess" a sense of direction and purpose.

Of course, it will take some time and work until it's "complete" - if it ever will be - but there's been a few big steps in the past weeks, mainly thanks to Everton and Liverpool, which has pushed us forward.

Two lads already made this. Of course more are on their way in the future with a bit more design than this! We always have Mark...

Also Latics or The Latics? I can always change that.

Can he listen to the fans (mainstand not included)?

Great idea.Lets get behind the new manager and bring some atmosphere back to boundary park!

This man!

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Welcome Lee!

Just a little something I made to help kick-start this little ultra movement we have going on.

Of course there'll be many more in the near future but until then we'll happily rip off the Sex Pistols!

I don't even believe we could "bounce back" if we went down - especially not with this team.

I've never seen Latics get promoted nor I have I been unlucky enough to see them relegated but if they went down, considering we've had money problems around the corner for years, a said-stadium that doesn't even exist and a decreasing attendance, it really does :censored: me up to think what might happen if we went down. I think the new stand would be an idea blown off in the wind again and as for the existence of the club... Hard to say.

I always had this idea that if we went down we'd go bankrupt and turn into Wimbledon: a club that once was in the Prem, had bags of history but is just a team parents tell their kids about.

It could be worse: we could be Pompey.

Self-made. Interesting how far away everything is...

14.1km - Hertha Berlin SC

20.1km - FC Union Berlin

37.2km - SV Babelsberg 03

135km - FC Energie Cottbus

200km - Dynamo Dresden

235km - VfL Wolfsburg

236km - Hansa Rostock

289km - FC Sankt Pauli

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557km - Eintracht Frankfurt

899km - Oldham Athletic

I'd love to think it's possible but do we really have the backing of the fans before we go talking "fan-owned club"? St. Pauli have a big financial backing (as well as having them most ST holders in the Bundesliga) and FC United have a large, very dedicated following through thick and thin.

I'm all for it. Speaking of which...

Why do people care so much about the ref? We shouldn't even be in a position to have to rely on what the ref does just to justify that fact we might have had a goal.

We should be scoring regardless of what he says and how strict he is.

I wonder if the new stand will have any of these to cater for really big supporters.

 

German rag Bild Zeitung reporting that seats for large fans will be available at the 2014 World Cup.

They are twice the width of normal seats and can take up to 250kg. Doctor's note required to get one – and they also cost quite a bit more.

How blunt. Literally describes them as "fat fans."

Eintracht Frankfurt - first German love from a young age

St. Pauli - truly in love with their fan base and out of political reasons

Celtic - I just can't bring myself to the blue side on this one, no massive love for them

Union Berlin - love their mino stadium and again I'm not a fan of Hertha's blue side (sick of seeing how much it's promoted on every corner)

Livorno - Amazing fans, full-on ideology

It certainly seems ridiculous to me. Why would anyone be unhappy if more Asians were to attend?

I know (or now "knew") quite a few regulars who wouldn't want Asians walking freely, let alone in Boundary Park's perimetre. As mentioned above there's still a presence of it at Latics. Who it comes from I don't know exactly. Drunks, your "typical" fan or - as these videos point out - ultra-hardcore Combat 18 neo-Nazis - which is... Odd.

What ever happened to the Famous FYC anyway?

Firstly, I always thought Asia was Japan and all them lot but nevermind.

Secondly, 'our Asians' are mostly Muslim Pakistanis and Bangladeshis. If you dont understand why a Pakistani Muslim doesnt come to football then thats probably why you are posting in this thread in a bemused manner.

Thirdly, our owner(s) are Jewish. See secondly.

Fourthly, Theyre all saving up for some new alloys innit.

Waste of my life reading that :censored:e.

Well in a good position to comment on some of this having taught in several schools. The old free ticket chestnut is utter garbage it makes no difference. I have offered tickets as rewards and going back to late 1990s very few takers and usually an existing fan taking for a friend. Had piles of them in hundreds and simply not taken. Club generous but little interest. Even recall the club offering some old shirts to some kids from Chernobyl. Will never forget they wanted the carrier bags more because they could keep belongings dry in them. The tickets for games overlooked. Partly down to very few teachers being locals. A few names spring to mind ie the new head of local sec school who was a Spurs fan and never gave the impression he liked the town yet worked at the 6th form and later returned as head and nothing good to say about latics or the town in mid 90s. Others couldn't be bothered handing out as not interested.

 

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Only my opinion but based upon working in area since 1986.

I remember getting those tickets from school - one of the ways I got into Latics (literally). Remember there being a handful of British-Asian kids in my class who I always notice didn't take them. I just recall it as being the norm back then and that Oldham had a racist reputation. Things have changed a hell lot since then though and could do with changing further.

Shocking what you learn though! Latics giving shirts to kids in Chernobyl? Christ... Great post though.

I expected these sort of replies, I guess. I wonder what the majority of fans think about it though. I can't imagine everyone would be so happy if more Asians were to attend - which is ridiculous.

If a club in our situation isn't targeting the audience of Oldham to try and turn the tables then it's no wonder we have problems - and that's in general. Why haven't the clubs gone at this instead of just tagging onto the national campaigns and sticking an orange sign behind the advertising boards nobody reads?

Our Jewish owner and captain can't exactly be popular with some of the Asian community either.

I honestly didn't know that.

I can't imagine that hardly known fact is a deterrent. Unless he has "IDF 4 LIFE" tattooed on his arse.

I'm old enough to buy a beer but young enough to ask who Roger Palmer is. I've been brought up with a different generation than most fans I come across who support Latics - just to bring things into context.

Recently St. Pauli won 3-0 against FSV Frankfurt ending a losing spell. Beneath a giant "St. Pauli gegen Rassismus" (St. Pauli against racism) flag, I sat down with a fellow fan for a beer and what lead to a long, long discussion. It got round to where I was from. I explained "I'm from Oldham and I'm a Latics fan. Really cold, fantastic half-time pies, always rains etc., etc."

"Oh," he replies.

Turns out he'd heard of us through the grape vine - mainly about the year 2001. He had a bad impression of English fans, and that's not surprising as the only thing that ever gets discussed is how traditional or racist we are - which he and everyone who doesn't have Suarez shirt knows. But it kind of made me wonder...

Oldham is a town with a noticeable Asian community. I had the pleasure of getting my A-levels with some great people of that community and even sharing my love life (do behave). But when I go to watch Latics I see hardly any of that community - if not, none at all. And I think that's really, really, really :censored:e.

Are we not good enough? Do we still have a bad reputation? Are our pies not good enough?!

Discussing it briefly with a few mates in the past, they had the idea Latics had this connection and was still very "white" in terms of how the fans think.

We have players of all backgrounds but does nobody think this is a bit of an issue? I'm not saying it's a problem, but what are the thoughts on this? In terms of the club as a business, this is a possible money gap or if you're into equality, this is a big gap in a small town.

And if you're thinking "keep 'em out" then there's always Lazio for you lot.