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11 minutes ago, League one forever said:

I desperately want to be wrong, and maybe I’m just preparing for the worst. 

 

But I still think we are done for. 

 

3 reasons. 

 

1. We are limping over the line, and desperation has kicked in. 

 

2. Dale are on a good run, and momentum is everything at this stage. 

 

3. Mentality.  Hill will be saying ‘what have you have got to lose?’ Ritchie will be saying, you don’t deserve to go down - just relax. One is hungry, one is complacent. 

Just had a look at Dale’s recent form, 7 points from 7 games. They’ve had 5 home games and drawn 4 and lost 1. Slightly better than our 6 point from 7 games. We are limping along and like I said in another thread if we stay up it’ll be by default. No doubt Hill will fire his players up and will probably do a better job of it than RW. I just hope Charlton arrive at spotland fired up too knowing a playoff spot is at stake.

47 minutes ago, oafcmetty said:

Not bothered what he’s done (particularly if rumours are true), i’d get TP by his side for next weekend

Can’t have helped things not having TP around seeing as there is no official assistant manager. His suspension couldn’t have come at a worse time.

18 minutes ago, latics22 said:

Staying up and starting again, default or no default is better than religation. Some massive positives can be taken! Young back four hopefully Doyle and keep bryne as we own him!

I don’t disagree with you. I think relegation would be disastrous for the club and I don’t think we’d necessarily bounce back from it either. The cloth would be cut yet again like it was in 1994 and in 1997.

I am genuinely worried about this team though. It looks like if we do stay up it’s more likely to be a case of avoiding relegation by default rather than us going for the jugular and going for a win.

Somebody called Billy.

2 minutes ago, Ryan said:

Shocking post-match interview. Proper arrogant twat isn’t he...

Who Wellens? Or Darren Ferguson?

1 hour ago, Markspark92 said:

otherwise it’s the hill for me what is the view like from the hill anyone know full pitch or restricted ??

Probably on a par with the view from the top row of the lower tier in the Anfield road end at Liverpool. Unless you can hire a cherry picker for the day and park it on the hill.

Charlton will need to to get a positive result at Dale too as their playoff spot is far from guaranteed, certainly if results in the midweek games go against them.

Walsall a goal up

11 minutes ago, Kusunga_Is_God said:

It’s not a healthy mindset for sure..

How many games have we started so slow and sluggish..

I’ve never known us to give teams 1 and 2 nil head starts within the first 15 to 20 minutes of a game so many times in one season before. When Shez was here at the start of the season I put it down to the inept goalkeepers, Wilson and Ruddy. But worryingly this has continued during Wellens’ tenure and could ultimately cost us our league one status.

Couldn’t we have just played with fly goalie?

Would rather stick with RW than take a punt on him, unless AL wants mid table stability in league two.

20 minutes ago, Londonboy said:

We'd also lose circa 60-80k per game in revenue from the likes of Sunderland, Bolton, Birmingham, Bradford, Pompey etc. 

Our big games would be Bury and Coventry!!

There’s at least a dozen clubs in league two who would bring barely a hundred fans too in what is a league dominated by southern clubs.

The playing budget would take a massive hit, unless AL was prepared to do what Donny did last season and try to maintain status quo by keeping a similar budget.

In addition to the solidarity payments, the basic award that clubs receive from the football league would drop by about £200k too. So you’re looking at a drop of around £400k before a ball has been kicked.

I hope AL has got deep pockets if he’s planning on staying around for a stint in league two.

37 minutes ago, leeslover said:

Where would we be if we'd given Robinson, Kelly and Dunn 4 years each to learn from their mistakes and benefit from stability? We'll never know, but I don't think it would be the Champions League.

Had Corney stood by that trio for the sake of stability there’s a good chance we’d be in league two now or even worse. I know he appointed some duffers but Corney did know when the time was right to pull the trigger. If he’d have stood by them and given them more time then fans would have protested, created a toxic atmosphere or simply voted with their feet.

I don’t recall people defending Robbo, Dunn, Kelly, Dickov, Penney etc and saying they should have been kept on for the sake of stability at the time of their dismissals.  I think most fans agreed that the game was up for them.

Hopefully Richie will keep us up and get chance to have a preseason with the squad and make some more signings of his own but the jury is still out for me.  Obviously survival is the most important aim for the club in the short term.

1 hour ago, latics22 said:

I don’t believe for 1 second that any senior pro has been offered 500 a week by corney 

Lol, I presume that is tongue in cheek.

34 minutes ago, simplythemostimportantkick said:

How the fuck are you privy to such confidential information ? Thanks In advance as  really interested to know how ?? 

Pretty sure it was on here and in the MEN at the time that we’d offered him £600-£650 a week till the end of the season. Wellens wanted a grand a week but Shrewsbury then came in and offered him more than double what we were and gave him an 18 month deal. A no brainer for a player in the twilight of his career. Incidentally Shrewsbury released him 6 months later.

17 minutes ago, simplythemostimportantkick said:

Nice sentiment. Trouble is , as soon as we do get another LJ they will be off to bigger and better things at the first opportunity. Then it’s back to square one. Then we go through another ten managers until another gem turns up and hey ho , up and away they go. 

Hopefully if that happens again the board will tell whichever club is sniffing around to do one. I also hope that they don’t panic and wave the white flag if there’s a remote chance we could get promoted. Who knows though as we still don’t know what AL’s plan/vision is.

3 hours ago, losesome said:

What will that do for Fleetwood players over the last few games!!!!

Hopefully trying to impress the new boss who will be watching, especially for the last one v Walsall.

That’s what I’m hoping too as Walsall are one of the potential teams we need to overtake.  Somebody said on here recently that Shez’s teams take the foot off the peddle once they’re safe, easing off on training sessions etc. Hopefully this will give their players more of an incentive to impress and the game will be taken more seriously.

11 minutes ago, oafc_lover said:

Both Ripley and Peter Clarke dropped to the bench for their 3-3 draw with Doncaster.

Don’t think Ripley has played for them since their defeat to Dale a couple of weeks back.

Franchise now 2-1 down to donny.  Sorry, beaten to it.

8 minutes ago, mickjagger said:

 

Will he miss Tuesdays game ?

Yes

9 minutes ago, mickjagger said:

If he is put on gardening leave will he be helping the groundsman?

Or is he kipping on the sofa at Dan Gardner’s?

A blow for the club if true. He’s been a good servant of the club and always seemed a friendly bloke but who knows what happens behind closed doors.  It can’t be condoned if true though.

35 minutes ago, frizzell54 said:

How many of the 7 wins have we got?  How many should we have had?  I no longer feel as confident as I did.

Since that target was set, we’ve won 4, drawn 4 and lost two. Off the opening poster’s hit list we drew against bury and Walsall but we did get a bonus win at scunny.