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I've not got much time before I leave for the pub but I'd say one of this club's best attributes is that we are still a proper, old-fashioned 'family club'. See the same faces week in, week out; parents bringing their kids as soon as they're old enough - as I intend to do one day - and trying to build the next generation of Latics fans.

I also think the club should be proud of its history, we've got a lot more to shout about in our past than a lot of local clubs.

Ah bugger - forgot Ben Amos.

Still, 3 in a good number of years hardly constitutes 'only looking at the Manchester clubs'

The point I was trying to make is that we shouldn't concentrate all our efforts on them, not that we do now.

My main gripe was the brownnosing of Citeh; a few decent youngsters from any club, no matter who, would be good for the club. Was the last loanee we had who wasn't rank average Ryan Bertrand?

Anyway, my point was that if we are trying to cosy up to clubs in order to get decent loanees, it shouldn't be just the two Manchester teams. We shouldn't have to hang laser blue bunting to get the scraps from teams like Citeh. If they don't want to send their players here, fine. We don't need them.

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I have to agree, an eyebrow was raised when the Oldham Athletic commercial department released initiative of the MCFC Legends extravaganza. It seemed altogether sycophantic. Alternatively, regularly wheeling out Earl Barrett, Ricky Holden and so-on also has a limited appeal.

 

If these bigger clubs can help us by offering a loan player or two at a discount because of our connections, I don't think we're in a position to knock that opportunity back if it's favourable.

I agree about the loan thing, but there's no reason for us just to target the two Manchester clubs; we should be looking to every club in the North West and even over the Pennines. Shouldn't we be pushing our history of producing youngsters to these teams, try and let them use Boundary Park as a place for their players to get some excellent coaching and plenty of game time?

I don't know the answer, and don't claim to. I'm just fuming at this sodding link with Citeh. If we have to sell our souls to some other team why does it have to be them?

I know what you mean if it's any consolation.. I still (stupidly) see us as genuine rivals to City and United and dislike them for numerous reasons in equal measures..

 

The 'City family fun day' or whatever it was called was an extremely bitter piull to swallow.

 

Think we just need to accept we're tinpot

But the minute we accept that this situation we find ourselves in is permanent we might as well give up and ground share with Rochdale!

There's no reason we couldn't get back into the Premier League at some point, if we turn into some part-time plaything for the Massives fans to come to when their team aren't busy in the Inter-Toto then just shoot me now.

It's very good to have contacts at other clubs etc. It raises money for the club and unless it's actually you who has bought why should you give a monkeys?

 

It's not like we are promoting city games in a math programme or anything it's a private auction.

This particular auction wasn't promoted as anything to do with the Massives; but the Plymouth home game was that 'clash of the legends' dross, when we played Bournemouth the Dickov/Bradbury thing was rolled out time and again, bringing everyone's favourite crap boxer Hatton to Boundary Park, going to his gym and brown-nosing him afterwards - things like that.

The club does all of what you say, it would be an outrage if it didn't. It doesn't mean however, that we cannot cash in on market opportunities from our greater neighbours that can benefit Oldham Athletic, that's all.

I can see that this club needs every penny it can get its hands on, obviously we'd all prefer it if we were self-sufficient but perhaps this is an inevitability considering how skint we are.

This isn't an attack against the club, or anyone who disagrees with me - I just don't feel we should be trying to promote links with 'bigger clubs' like Citeh, it drives me insane. Say we end up in the top flight in the near future (however unlikely that may seem, I can dream), we'd have got there with the help of a 'bigger team' and it just doesn't sit well with me.

I am probably more vitriolic about this because of my enormous dislike for the Massives but I wouldn't like it if we were promoting similar links with any other club.

Things like letting ST holders of other League One/Two clubs in for cheaper, I think Bury do this (perhaps) are things I like; things like MANCHESTER CITY LEGENDS DAY AT BOUNDARY PARK make me not want to come to Latics/tear off my own face.

And if Peter Reid and Paul Dickov are 'club legends' then I think it's time to have a long hard look at your club's expectations.

What are the "club's own merits"?

Shouldn't the club be trying to promote itself as an integral part of Oldham's community? Talk about players who are from the local area, make young kids in Oldham think they too could play for the club. Things like that.

I don't see any reason why anything coming out of our club should mention any other club except ours? Obviously except for the team we play next.

how are we clinging on their glory??????

Selling tickets to one of their games at a Latics auction, talking about Dickov's Citeh links at every opportunity - stuff like that!

Just because they've got some dirty money doesn't change what their club represents. If it was United tickets we were selling at an auction I don't think our fans would accept it so readily.

People just want to bitch about anything. It's put a few quid in latics so why complain?

It's something that genuinely bothers me though, I was mainly wondering if anyone else felt the same way!

I do wonder though if people would feel the same if we were offering tickets to watched United at an auction we'd feel the same? If we were promoting links with our ex-United players?

Greatest ever manger: Joe Royle – ex city

Record Goal scorer: Roger Palmer – ex city

Record Transfer Sold: Earl Barrett – ex city

Current Manager: Paul Dickov ex city

 

I’m afraid we will always be associated to them but if it means £300 in the coffers for Latics who cares about a couple of tickets

I'm sure there's plenty of clubs we've taken players from, managers too.

Denis Irwin, Andy Richie and Paul Dickov all came from Leeds, should we start clinging to them as well? They're a bigger club than the Massives, at least.

It just all seems so desperate. I lost my patience with this Citeh nonsense when someone turned up in a laser blue shirt in the Chaddy last season. I think we should put a stop to it, promote the club for its own merits, rather than clinging to the 'glory' of some idiots from down the road.

My two penneth, anyway.

PD was owed two so donated them

Why don't we just have done with it and move our ground to Stockport and call ourselves Citeh light?

Hanging onto the coat-tails of a club I'd really rather not associate with, it's getting a bit shameful.

Wasn't a bad night, I wasn't drinking so i'm sure others had a very good night. The company was very good, Joe was on form as usual - so was Paul, nothing really revealed although Alan and Dickov spent a lot of the night comparing texts or emails on their Blackberries so I hope that's incoming player related.

 

Food was ok, I know some will rave about it but I've had better, particularly at other Trust do's, the pate was runny, the steak was very good and mine was cooked to perfection, (the wife's however needed a tampon! When I politely asked if it could be cooked a little bit longer the waiter was fine but when the owner brought it back got a snotty remark about "it does say medium rare on the menu" yes mate it did but that was still mooing) as were the accompaniments were cooked well too but the sauce was tasteless and bland, and the cheesecake had been left at room temperature too long and had wilted. Not being critical for the sake of it as you can't get a three course meal with entertainment etc for £25 these days. Thought the entertainer was good and the beverages very reasonable. Even Barry made a succint speech and actually got to the point for once!

 

A good night, worth the £50 for the company etc…. but the food did let it down imo, a shame as I was looking forward to trying a place that many have raved about. Next time go back to Alan's local, the food was superb and much more akin to holding such events. The 2007 Christmas do was a great night with Joe and Dermot Gallagher with Shez and the boys….would I contribute again to such a night? Yes, but not at Milan…nothing personal.

 

Auction -

Corney's Eyres Testimonial shirt went for £100 another guy offered £300, Dickov had originally won it but the guy agreed to let him wear it to training

Team Photo Place - £300

Signed Ball £80

BB ST and Extras £80

City Tickets £300 (linked into Corney shirt I believe)

Signed black away shirt (Signed twice as our tithead players thought it sensible to sign it in black!!!! Later in silver!) £100

City tickets??

Definitely looks like him, that's a pretty good find I'd say

Maybe a slight deviation from the main discussion, but I'm at Salford Uni and living down here. I'd be interested if there's anyone else down here (at the uni or just living in the Salford / Manc area) that goes to the games and maybe wants to share the driving, as the last couple of years I've been going on my own . I know this sounds a bit like the plea of a "sorry case", but it would stop me being a loner on Saturdays.

I've just left Uni in Salford and all being well with employment I will be living round there in the near future and commuting up to home games.. be happy to stick my 'day saver' cash in your petrol tank rather than in First Bastard Bus company's pockets!

As long as you sit in the Chaddy, I don't speak to people in the RRE

I absolutely, 100% loathe Citeh and everything about their club. The fans, the 'history', the chairman, the dirty money, the classlessness of everyone who has ever pulled on that laser blue disgrace of a shirt, the Kippax, the council owned ground, the new Etihad 'deal', Summerbee and the :censored:ehawk Kinkladze.

Then Leeds. Just a mucky set of fans and they really should've gone out of business and done the world a favour.

Next up, Blackpool. Imagine being at Sixth Form in Blackpool at the time of the ill-fated playoffs. Doesn't even bare thinking about. And songs from their 'lot' like "we'd rather have a Tower than a Mosque" - similar levels of intelligence to the Citeh lot.

Fourth, Liverpool. Everything about their club screams 'everyone's out to get us' and the grief-ridden fans need no excuse to decry the way they're treated by everyone as disgusting. Time they looked in the mirror I think. And then there's Dalglish. And Souness. And Fowler. And Gerrard. Horrible.

Fifth, Celtic. Fans who are generally amoeba, Belfast Celtic should go and play with Linfield and Derry City and the rest of that lot, in my opinion. If they don't want to be British, don't bother. Scottish football is a joke anyway. And Dalglish again. In the words of Malcolm Tucker, a real F, *, *, C**t.

Sixth, Dogdale. They've been pretty insignificant during my time following Latics but last season they really got up my nose with the farcical waterlogged pitch and their fans seem more interested in goading other fans than actually watching what's going on on the pitch. Given the amount of time they spent in the Fourth Division though, might not be such a surprise.

Seventh, someone innocuous like Arsenal. Their team consistently finish in the top four of the most competitive league in world football, play in Europe year-in, year out and still the fans moan as though they're owed success. Tedious.

Eighth, Wigan. Stealing our nickname in a vain attempt paint over the rugby league signs at the DW. Or the JJB. Or whatever their 1/4 full ground is called. Those fans don't deserve Premier League football.

Ninth, Spurs. Similar reasoning to Arsenal. Tedious fans, and the fact they're managed by old Twitchface. He's a Grade-A moron.

And last, but by no means least, the 'Manchester City Elite Squad'.

I would consider Manchester United to be my second team - everyone in my family are United fans and my Mum's side of the family are from Salford - my Grandad has had a Latics ST for years though so that's where my support comes from.

I never really had any bad blood for Citeh until I moved to Manchester - got even worse when I started going out with a girl who's a fan of the Gorton Globetrotters.

They're a bit of a non-entity though, their only real purpose is to amuse me with their blue ketchup and the towel-headed fans when the Abu Dhabi 'gents' turned up with sacks of cash.

The Massives

I'm sure it didn't mention the words 'training grounds' earlier - and the article is missing a possessive apostrophe.

I'm 21 and I want the club crest on my wall

Went to pick my ticket up earlier, got home and noticed its for the Main Stand when I requested Chaddy End. Grr.

I was tempted to go with the 'pelting with bricks on the pitch' method but it would probably ruin the turf, so breaking on the wheel.

If Dogdale do charge for any re-arranged fixture couldn't Latics bump up the prices for away fans when they visit BP?

Handball by Chamberlain just before he scored?

My problem will be, if this idea brings in some Citeh fans, any of them turning up in Citeh colours. That shade of blue doesn't belong in our ground.

I'd love to think that any potential fans who come to BP either on the back of this Dickov vs Reid gambit or the 'bring a mate for a fiver' would be entertained with the football on show but I'm not sure it will.

The idea of a packed-to-the-rafters Boundary Park week-in, week-out genuinely excites me but the football being played at the moment isn't going to entice people back.

I'd love to be proven wrong, however.

I don't want anything to do with Citeh anywhere near my club.