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Thanks to the Guardian online:

 

Why are goalkeepers so rarely effective managers? Which ex-keeper has the best management record ever?" .

 

It's partly a numbers game. With ten outfield players to every keeper, there's a far smaller pool of potential candidates. It's also worth bearing in mind that keepers tend to have longer playing careers. In England alone, John Burridge, Steve Ogrizovic, Neville Southall and Dave Beasant have all made top-flight appearances after the age of 40.

 

The most successful keeper-manager ever is surely the late Raymond Goethals. Born in Brussels in 1921, Goethals enjoyed a modest playing career between the sticks for minor Belgian clubs Daring and Racing de Bruxelles. However, as Xavier Lizin points out, there is nothing modest about his coaching CV. In 1993, Goethals guided Marseilles to victory in the Champions League final against a Milan side that included Marco van Basten, Franco Baresi and Frank Rijkaard.

 

It was the crowning moment of Goethal's managerial career. As coach of Belgium, he had led his country to the 1970 World Cup n Mexico, the first time they had qualified for 16 years, and also to a third-place finish in the 1972 European Championships. He reached two consecutive European Cup Winners' Cup finals with Anderlecht, winning the trophy in 1978, and also tasted domestic league and cup success with Standard Liege. His career as Marseilles manager, meanwhile, included three successive league titles and, two years before the historic win over Milan, a European Cup final defeat to Red Star Belgrade.

 

 

A respectful nod also goes to former United States manager Bruce Arena. While Arena's greatest claim to fame as a player is a solitary appearance in the US goal for a 2-0 loss to Israel in 1973, his accomplishments as a coach are considerable. His DC United side not only won the first two MLS championships and the 1998 CONCACAF Champions Cup but beat Brazilian side Vasco da Gama over two legs to win the Interamerican Cup. In 2002 Arena also led America to the last eight of the World Cup while, in April 2006, the US achieved a best-ever Fifa world ranking of fourth.

 

Dino Zoff is worth a mention too. After captaining Italy to the 1982 World Cup, aged 40, Zoff turned to management, leading Juventus to the Uefa Cup and taking Italy to within a whisker of victory at Euro 2000, only for France to overturn a 1-0 deficit with seconds remaining, a result that prompted his resignation a few days later. Still, not bad for a goalie.

Cheers for the info!

If it has ever happened, who is the most successful goalkeeper to move into management?

I herd a rumor that the club had only sold 40 season tickets up until the sacking of Penny, is there any truth in this?

Dowie! and he's bringing his niece from Everton ladies....

Trouble at the Luton/york city game last night too, is this a new trend startin up?

Road to hell-Chris Rea

I've read City won't accept anything under 15 million...Spurs don't wanna pay more than 8-10 mill but due to their defensive casualty list...most likely will be forced to pay more than they really want to...Come on City...hold out for that 15 million!!

If Richards is ever to move from city, how much of the 20% can we realistically expect to see put back into the playing squad? or will it all be sucked up by the new stadium plans?

From the Middlesbrough gazette: http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/boro-fc/2010/...84229-26224962/

That game just sent shuddering memories of the 1-7 hammering Cardiff gave us at home. It was a very similar game, except Bellamy didn't get hit in the chops with a pie, more's the pity.

It was a cheese berger by the way...

If you still want your car to have windows, WIN!

Lol facebook group with 134 confirmed guests.......

 

 

Protest against Penney

I've just looked at that group, looks mostly to be made up of pathetic little kids...

Just back from the game, thought we were unlucky to not have nicked a point at the end, but once again it was to little too late from the latics. The play was very predictable throughout the game. Every time Taylor got the ball you new what he was going to do, I cant remember one time in which he attempted to run the ball down the line, he always cut inside, with such a reluctance to use his left foot why do we keep playing him on that side?

Every day I seem to become more and more against this Failsworth move.

Was a good player but overated, yes was an excelent free kick against Greece, but he screwed up the Argie game, and took that awful penalty against Portugal a few years later. They say his experience would have been an asset in the world cup but I feel we have more than enough experience in the likes of, Gerrard, Lampard, Ferdinand, Terry and Owen (if he makes it). We wont miss him that much, time to move on.

Sack the Physio!

cheers all, I'm workin the other 2 games so will just have to fork out the £20 tonight..It better be worth it!

They have a deal on tonight pay 30 quid get tickets for tonight, Wycombe & Brighton games.

So if I pay £30 on the gate tonight I get 3 tickets? otherwise its still £20 per game?

First Choice:

Johnson, Terry, Ferdinand, Cole (three carrying injuries)

 

Second Choice:

Brown, Terry, Upson, Bridge (Brown now injured and Bridge still refusing to play)

 

Third Choice if Upson picks up a knock?

who?, Terry, Lescott, Baines

 

Scary or what?

Tyrone Mears has has a decent season, think he can play left back or right back. Also Jagielka is making his comeback to.

Not been for a month or two, just wondering if tonights game is the usual price?

I was told it looked naff and it does - i can kind of see why they have done it but i wonder whats its cost

I imagine it would be free for us, as the company that supplies the grass has its name plastered all over it, by the sounds of it I would also think that they may give us some cash for advertisement privilages too

penney stays until the end of the season sacking him will damaged the season more.

Bloody hell RoyaleA you've changed your tune.

Club before country all the time.

This wont help at all, but you can get it on your mobile..

http://www.fanchants.com/football-songs/ol.../zigger-zagger/

Also a video on the same site of "Zenit Saint Petersburg Players Shouting Zigger Zagger" sounds more like Ziggey Zagger though.

For a lot of people that live in the borough of Oldham the actual community doesn't exist anymore. Ok they go to the hospital,to school because they have to,given a choice of where to be entertained, relax,shop, watch sport and work it is just accepted that you have to go elsewhere. Sucessive councils have pandered to the whim of every grouping resulting in inertia and a slum. Latics and Roughyeds are just a by product of that malaise. There is a continual drift away, more and more residents with aspirations and desire for community spirit eventually move towards their jobs,shopping and entertainment leaving an ever increasing void. The council can't cope with one of the last bastions of such by gone spirit residing at the heart of the borough and so are shoving us in a corner near the Mancs.

 

One final point they have manged to achieve this and leave those remaining with the highest council tax in Greater Manchester.

 

What a joke,TTA must really enjoy a challenge.

couldn't agree more, Oldham council are a joke.

I am currently reading a book and in it it mentions a play created in the early 70's about football hooliganism called "zigga-zagga". I was always under the impression that it was a Latics song, obviously I must be wrong. I just wanted to know if anyone has any ideas of the songs/terms origins and why it is related to football/Latics.