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Rick

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  1. On top of what macca posted

     

    - Groundshare with rochdale remains an option but is unlikely

    - The club are preparing a damning dossier and depending on what happens in the next 48 hours, are preparing to go public with a complete dossier of the mess

    - Have the minutes of every meeting, decisions and promises made going back four or five years.

    - Still waiting to hear the views of Charlie Parker

    - Charity comission's report is a 'scathing' attack on the way the council dealt with the plans

    - The council did not consider the impact of a 20 million pound stadium on the value of the land

    - Batye said this has set the stadium plans back 18 months to 2 years

    - Cllr Jim McMahon lays the blame firmly at the councils door, as genuine concerns were 'laughed at'

     

    So what apears to have happened here (in my opinion) is that Latics wanted to redevelop Boundary Park either where it is now or on land adjacent (Clayton Playing Fields or the Car Park on the Lookers Stand side). The Council seems to have preferred the club to move to make way for more housing including for key hospital workers and of course the increased income from Council Tax. People would be less put off travelling to Failsworth every other weekend for a few hours than they would if they had to move there to live. A traffic survey was commissioned as a way of blocking this, and Latics being incumbent on the land appears to have led to a deal being done whereby the £20m earmarked for redeveloping BP gets transferred to a lower quality site in Failsworth in return for an easy ride being guaranteed by the Council. Then it transpires (AFTER the Lancaster Land has been bought for £3m) that there is ANOTHER charity claim to the land as was the case with Clayton. The Council say, don't worry, we'll get the land transferred - and then totally cock up the application. Now the £3m is worth £1.8m and Mr Corney and Latics have MORE bills to pay if we change our plans back to redeveloping BP plus they are left with egg on their faces.

     

    Now, I may be completely off the mark with these wild and unsubstantiated thoughts as to what may have happened, but my only hope now is that Simon Corney means "Right, I've had enough of changing my plans to accomodate the Council. I am now going to close down BP next season and we will ground share with Rochdale or Bury. The new SportsPark 3000 (sorry, couldn't resist) will open its doors to what could be Premier League football the season after"

     

    :pray:

     

    I still don't see what the difference is between a £20m stadium at BP to a £20m stadium in Failsworth.

  2. Where is the money coming from then Rick to redevelope boundary park if you say it can be done? Where is the money going to come from to fund this attacking football team that will bring the crowds flocking back?

     

    In 2007, the land at Boundary Park was worth a hell of alot more than what it is now. I think Simon Corney mentioned at one of the meetings that since the arse fell out of the property market, they have had offers of 500k an acre, and I am sure that that is on the presumption that there wont be a football stadium on the land. Put a football stadium there and the land drops further.

     

    And we have a successful attacking football team at the moment, yet we still can't get 4000 a week????

     

    And to clarify earlier, when I said backwards thinking fans, I was talking about the ones who blindly refuse to accept a move to failsworth, the ones who pull the failsworth is in manchester crap (which it isnt as the football league would not let us move there if it was), the ones who would if given the choice, prefer to see the club wither and die a slow death at Boundary Park rather than enjoy sustainable success at Failsworth.

    Attendances are not like a light switch - they will take time to build back up again.

     

    How many times have we seemed like we have a decent crowd and then underperformed. How many people do you personally know who dont normally go, but went the the Rochdale Home match and havent been back since? I know of 4 that travelled in the same minibus as me.

     

    I think that many of the lapsed supporters found it difficult to get out of the Latics habit, but once they stopped going have realised that there is life without football afterall and you effectively double your weekend time with your family that doesnt go to the match. I am not one of those, and despite not having a season ticket this year, still go whenever I can (went to Carlisle, but was working in London on Tuesday night so missed Hartlepool).

  3. havnt we already sold the land ?

     

    If I won the lottery, no. Any deal would be renaged upon by me immediately. I believe that land was bought in Failsworth before the Public Consultations and it seems clear to me that the land at BP is worth more per square metre than the land in Failsworth.

     

    I know that they've got more money than us at the moment, but look at Blackpool. Do you think that they'd be where they are now if they'd have sold Bloomfield Road to the Pleasure Beach and moved to Sellafield?

     

    Redeveloping an existing ground can be done. It can be made to work and it can be successful - providing the product on the pitch is good enough.

  4. Morais has the deal in front of him, he or his agent wants more money, we're not willing to pay it or offer longer than to the end of the season - for now. Morais is happy to play on a non-contract basis - for now…

    I just want him secured to stop someone else coming in for him. I think he is the type of player that could help to boost gates and keep people coming back. He certainly makes me sit on the edge of my seat when he has the ball and takes on full backs.

     

    I also have a thing for players who celebrate goals in an extravagant manner. I always remember Wayne Andrews as being one such player and his time at Latics co-incided with a feel good factor and period of relative success.

     

    Tie him down to the club before he gets nicked off us!

  5. NO to blindly acccepting that moving the club is the only answer

    YES to redeveloping Boundary Park like we were promised

     

    We need to move forward, starting with the product on the pitch. I am hoping that the recent transfer activity under the guidance of Paul Dickov will put us in with a real shout of promotion, but I don't think that the crowds will increase to the levels we need to become self sustaining until we are back in the Championship.

     

    Give people what they want to see (a successful and attacking football team) and the crowds will come back. Redevelop Boundary Park and secure the future of the football club without trashing our prized asset which is the location of the ground (clearly not the ground itself)

  6. Last couple of home games the Rochdale Road End has looked pretty dead to be apart from the small section near the away fans. When i sat in the small RRE section against Leicester the other year got to say that was one of the best vocal atmopsheres i have seen at a Oldham game for a long time. Why not puit home fans in the small section and just open 2 blocks of the large RRE when its a small supported club.

    Why not have the Home stand (Chaddy) for Home fans and the Away stand (RRE) for Away fans? Just like it was for many many years.

  7. Home supporters in large section of RRE and small section as the family stand.

     

    Together with the main stand it would give us a home capacity of over 7100.

     

    Away fans in the Chaddy which has capacity of about 3750 which would be more than enough

    to satisfy the Huddersfield and Sheff Wed followings.

     

    This would allow the home fans to watch the game seated in the newest stand without obstructions and be to be able to relax with a beer before the game.

     

    The idea of the Chaddy being the home end is long gone. I sit in the main stand now and looking towards the Chaddy End on match days is an embarassement.

     

    With the home fans all together in the main and RRE stands it would make the matchday atmosphere so much better.

     

    It would cut costs for the club by using less turnstyles, make segregation easier, thus cutting policing fees, and finally put an end to this ridiculous seat changing each time we expect a large away following which I am sure tends to reduce the number of potential season ticket sales.

     

    Don't do a poll just get it done for next season!!!!

     

    Did the RRE for 3 seasons after the Lookers was prematurely demolished. I am now a Chaddy Ender again and think its MUCH better than the RRE.

     

  8. REUBEN SIGNS FOR LATICS

    Posted on: Fri 28 Jan 2011

    Latics have signed striker Reuben Reid for an undisclosed fee from Premier League club West Brom.

     

    The 22-year-old has agreed a deal for the remainder of the season with an option to extend.

     

    Reid, who will wear the No 9 shirt, was registered in time to make his debut in tomorrow's npower League One match at Carlisle United.

     

    Does say 'fee'

     

    That's because it's been changed

  9. For reasons that I cannot go into, supporters will appreciate that things have been much more difficult at the club since Simon Blitz left us.

     

    Simon Corney as the new Chairman, holds our Board of Diretors together well and despite the many difficulties he faces he never walks away from the challenges. He is just as ambitious today as he was when he arrived.

     

    He will not thank me for going public with my thanks because deep down he is quite modest in his dealings with the club and how he tackles the day to day problems.

     

    It would have been very simple this past week not to have been active in the transfer field given our gates at present but the ambitions of the club are in place to support the management team.

     

    Barry

     

    Indeed. A public show of desire and determination to reverse the decline of many years despite the financial situation being much worse than it has in many a long year.

     

    Thanks to all involved.

     

    :applause1::imnotworthy::applause1:

     

    Rick

    PS Get Morais signed now and I'll be happy :wink:

  10. Yeah, well done. Brilliant, in fact.

     

     

    I am honestly delighted that we've managed to get Evina as a propoer player.

     

    I think that the comments coming from the club about promotion/play offs being a realistic target and the deals that have been and look like being done are a clear statement of intention.

     

    I also think that it is important that Payershare is highlighted as taking part in this push if it is going to succeed.

     

    Well done all those that contribute.

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