Jimbooth

1 hour ago, archiecat said:

Yes Jim,you missed the bit about the meeting not addressing the concerns raised    

I wasn't expecting it to as they said earlier this week that wasn't what it was about. I just expected there to be more content with the time that's been taken... 

I'd say let Abdallah use it free for the sake of the club, but he'd just pocket the savings. Make him pay and release it back for player purchases during transfer windows?

55 minutes ago, mcfluff1985 said:

https://trustoldham.co.uk/statement-following-meeting-with-oldham-athletic/

 

 

So they're forming a board, appointing Darren to it and they'll be having annual meetings. Did I miss anything? This took a week to put together? 

15 minutes ago, latics22 said:

However long they take is how long they take, however if you say they will be released this week. That needs to be stuck to.

Agreed. So far we've heard early this week, late this week and now Monday. 

Minutes in my line of business only take a week to produce if being redacted or altered in some way. If its just a literal written account of a discussion then I'd expect it to be quicker. Although if someone asked me to do it outside of working hours it would literally never get done. 

29 minutes ago, latics22 said:

The trust is as dead as a dodo! They get given lip service and then back the owner! No offence to this Darren guy, I’m sure he’s doing his best, but being there presenting awards without a care in the world ? I don’t know, personally i wouldn’t have attended. Also underdog, god love her, but she’s gone if the radar of late.....

One of the trust just posted above, clearly not just blindly backing the owner. 

1 minute ago, latics22 said:

So his plan isn’t to bring French players to our club? To hopefully make us better ? And I would guess, its not a massive leap, to sell them on at a profit? If one of the better, if not best of his recruits is leaving. I would say the plan isn’t working ? 

I don't think he has a plan. 

Just now, JoeP said:

 

Well their departure wouldn't mean the fans are off the mark. 

 

His players are bought here, get their profile boosted being here rather than the French fourth division, get a larger contract here on somewhere else, make more money for their agent..

To who's benefit? Not the Lemsagams. After having a years salary paid mostly out of the owner's pocket (eg Maouche purported to be on 200k a year) how much would their value have increased? 

42 minutes ago, latics22 said:

If nepo and missilou go it makes a mockery of his whole plan.

A mockery of what fans decided must be his plan. 

34 minutes ago, latics22 said:

Sounds pointless 

Making big money though. 

1 hour ago, Lee Sinnott said:

Why was Mohammed telling people (who were massively involved in the youth set up ) that there's no room for them......

New youth setup? 

56 minutes ago, GlossopLatic said:

 

This all day can't see why people are jumping to conclusions here.

Expecting the trust to work on a bank holiday weekend when they aren't even paid. Would any of those whining do it? 

13 minutes ago, super_blue said:

This was a rumour that was untrue. Contract talks Monday/Tuesday this week. 

This week just gone or this week coming up? 

4 hours ago, dannyboy55555 said:

Why are you shocked?

Not shocked at them not being paid. Just thought it would start in the summer... 

1 hour ago, deyres42 said:

Wage issues rearing their head again...

Really!?! Ffs

15 minutes ago, singe said:

And now from the official account.

 

Yeah I asked on Twitter too. People making out like it was a secret when they were only offered a meeting tonight. We love a made up scandal at Latics! 

On 4/27/2019 at 9:52 PM, lookersstandandy said:

Right, can we get back to this now? Now Darren is back, are you able to push Mr. Lemsagam for a meeting ASAP?@underdog @Andy b

Can someone from the trust update the fans please? Talk of a meeting with Abdallah on Friday is circulating. 

You only have to look at the results of all the polls. Attack is our downfall! 

Am I alone in thinking that our defence would be fine if Iacovitti were to sign? Replace Iversen, replace Branger and get 2 forwards who are actually good. We were very nearly good enough this season (shockingly) so no need to replace the team wholesale. 

9 minutes ago, daniel said:

Agreed. Good player in patches, but 4k a week, get rid. 

Is he really on 4k?

22 minutes ago, kowenicki said:

 

If anything the crowd was more up for it, more vocal. 

Because all of those who constantly gripe and moan in the stands killing the atmosphere were off boycotting. 

5 minutes ago, Bobledgersheart said:

Quite agree. Wasn't expecting too much this season but the standard of football is miles lower than League 1 and with a well balanced team, both on and off the pitch, the play-offs at least was easily achievable. 

It was, but we don't have either of those things. Given what we actually have on and off the pitch we've done better than I expected. 

48 minutes ago, jsslatic said:

I have never been to an awards dinner and can't imagine ever wanting to go.

 

However I don't get the mockery of them having one this season (regardless of where it is). We had one whenever we finished 14th-19th in League One didn't we?

 

We're still mathematically in with a shot of the play offs with 4 games to go. We've got a striker with 15 goals. A goalkeeper who is likely to finish just off the club clean sheet record. A defender who has made the L2 team of the year and his CB partner who has actually been better than him. A manager who has put up with a load of shit and from a PPG perspective is (I assume) one of the best we've had. There are some likeable characters in the current team/coaching staff.

 

That is all stuff that can and should be recognised. The need for some people to gripe and have a go all the time is absurd.

100% agreed. The last few years these have been celebrating mediocrity. This time we're at least still in the fight (albeit barely). 

I don't think this is a bad season, we're up there. If someone had offered me our current position in preseason I would have snapped their hand off. It was unrealistic to expect us to bounce straight back up. 

3 hours ago, Andy b said:

This is sound advice.

 

Ultimately the trust must use its energy as productively as possible to support the club and ensure it continues to exist and, if possible, thrives. That’s why the trust exists.

 

It has to be accountable and communicate with fans but fans don’t have the right to demand that the trust spends its time answering questions on here and other platforms. We have to get the balance right. Time and resources are limited.

 

Likewise it is inappropriate for fans to know every bit of information that the trust is party to. Some is confidential and releasing it could prejudice our efforts or existence so won’t be shared. We have to make a judgement on this. Conversely some info is not particularly relevant in the grand scheme of things and doesn’t have any bearing on the decisions we make or our reading of a situation. In focusing on such information and briefing fans on it we risk taking our attention away from the things that matter. 

 

However to the extent that a specific piece or pieces of info are having a bearing on how we view the club and the steps we seek to take, that information has to be shared in the appropriate manner. Otherwise we cannot explain our position and actions.

 

Trust directors are entrusted to use best endeavours to take steps to safeguard the club for our fans. Like it or not, they are given a mandate to use their judgement to make decisions. We seek to explain those decisions and what has informed them but, to some degree, fans need to trust that trust directors are of sound mind and are, in the grand scheme of things, capable of making the right decisions. If fans do not agree that Trust Directors are capable of doing their jobs effectively, then fans are invited to make this known. No Trust Director will stand in the way of others if there is a concensous that they can do a better job and are willing to take this on.

 

Ensuring we are able to hold the owner to account, that he is acting responsibly and not jeopardising the future of the club is the principal focus. We are more effective in doing that if we are backed by our fans. We have to report into fans and it’s right that we do this. I hope everyone can that there has been a marked improvement in our communication over recent weeks and months. 

 

Thank you 

You're right about finding a balance. Perhaps an alloted monthly Q&A session on social media would stem the tide? Could be done prior to trust meetings so responses could be discussed, then released to the baying masses in the following days... 

The information left out was information they didn't ask for. The information left in gave essentially the same effect as the rest of the original. You're doing a fine job guys and girls, some people are just itching to protest so they can feel important.