Guy Branston Pickle

57 minutes ago, trfc2024 said:

As for the comments on Norwood

 

For us he was always best as a lone striker but I am not sure he has the legs for that anymore and that is probably the biggest issue.

 

 

I assume he benefitted from wingers/full backs that could cross a ball and a midfield that wasn't 40 yards behind him at all times too?

1 minute ago, deyres42 said:

Coaching them, trying to develop them maybe? Where's his accountability? A few token words seems to be the most of it.

Do you not think he's doing this? Is he just letting them have carte blanche in training and then slagging them off after the fact?

I reckon he's coached enough successful sides to know when players aren't up to it. Some of you seem to think he should be taking them out for ice cream after games

4 minutes ago, O.A.F.C. said:

In any job, do you think being told your shit is the best way to motivation people?

 

Maybe the fans should be on Mellon's back more and it might motivate him to be a better manger? 

Being told you aren't performing well enough should be good motivation, yes. Would you argue against that assessment?

What should he be doing, rubbing their heads and tell them they're doing a great job?

And let's not pretend Oldham fans need an excuse to get on a managers back

8 minutes ago, League one forever said:

A lot of this squad will be here next season, they will put it in for Mellon next season after he’s said they’re not good enough? 

Surely any professional would want to prove that they are good enough,  because they certainly haven’t this season. The ones who aren't prepared to do that can fuck off for the easy life somewhere like Kings Lynn.

16 minutes ago, League one forever said:

It’s very good point. 
 

The players keep hearing variations of - you’re not good enough- yet had us 5th in the table. Maybe they’ve grown tired of keep hearing they’re not good enough, and have downed tools. 

If that's true, which it probably isn't, then surely we should be sacking each and every one of them for a total lack of professionalism?

Players stock always rises when they aren't playing. Tollitt and Willoughby were crap and People would be complaining about them playing if they were getting gametime. See also Alex Reid

Just now, AndyB2 said:

Isolated example. Our fans are not unreasonable. Players deserve what they get on whole 

Not an isolated incident by a long, long way

33 minutes ago, trickyrickyholden said:

Completey agree with this. I do think the team has been very disappointing this season, but the sight of all those man-childs getting angry and booing is a complete embarrassment. 

 

Anyway, Mellon defo in for me and I'll be renewing my season ticket and might even clap them off next Saturday.

 

I can do this because I have a good life which isn't defined by whether oldham win or lose every week.(thank god :-))

If they were just booing at the end of games I'd understand, but some of the vitriol and abuse of players and managers I've heard the last couple of years goes way beyond criticism. Shelton was getting booed whilst being subbed on during games that we were winning not that long ago, as an example. Top support that.

2 minutes ago, yarddog73 said:

Entitled??? This season is the first in 15 that we've won more than we've lost and we are likely to finish around 10th in the fifth division.

 

Entitled is your West Ham fans wanting Moyes out less than a season after winning a European Trophy not fans who've seen absolutely fuck all for 30 years and are the least successful professional club in the land.

Fair enough that's a good point, entitled was the wrong word. I'm sick of hearing how we've got the best support in the league when the actions don't reflect that though.

25 minutes ago, Gaz_Oafc said:

 

That post in itself should tell you how much of a poisoned chalice the Oldham Managers job is...

 

He's been here about 30 games and your telling me that he's the most boo'd manager? For a part of that we were top of the form table!

 

 

Some absolute entitled weapons support this club and it's putting me off more than the performances on the pitch!

 I haven’t been since York away, think we were 6th in the league at the time and our fans couldn't wait to slag off our own players and get on their backs. For a support that regularly slaps itself self on the back, it was shocking. Feel like I'm surrounded by knobheads at every game

25 minutes ago, BP1960 said:

 

The most booed off manager I've seen in 60 years. Fans should be entitled to ask why is that.

Tells you more about our dreadful entitled fans that. Best "support" in the league

6 hours ago, League one forever said:

Doesn’t that apply to any clutch of signings at anytime? 
 

There’s nothing to suggest that signing in the summer will mean more of them work. I’d say if you sign any group of players, a couple do really well, a couple do ok, and a couple don’t work out. 

But you have more options in summer as more players are free agents or clubs are prepared to let them go, and you have time to work them into your plans. In January, you're mostly signing players that have had long term injuries (Conlon) or no game time (Walker, Dallas, Sachdev) and then have barely anytime to integrate them in, they basically have to hit the ground running. You shouldn't have to sign a "clutch" of players in January if recruitment is good in summer

2 hours ago, oafc1955 said:

Let’s see if you think the same come November!!

I could say the same for you

1 hour ago, oafc1955 said:

I remember Mellon saying he wouldn’t be wasting Frank’s money.
Well….we got 6 players in who’ve hardly featured and who haven’t even hit the ground never mind started running, and have made no difference whatsoever.

I don't know about that. Stones was excellent and we were unlucky he got injured. Garner got some important goals when he came in. Conlon has been disappointing but has had some good games. Dallas and Walker, fair enough. But again, that's the risk you take recruiting in January. It was poor recruitment last summer that put us in that position in the first place.

10 hours ago, penrhyn said:

Same faults that we have had for a while too many square pegs in round holes, and too many players who cant play two games a week. A squad hat has a lack of balance in key areas. Pretty obvious the right players were not available in the last transfer window . Lets see what he does with a full pre season .

Agreed. There's plenty to criticise Mellon for but I think blaming the recruitment on him is unfair, January recruitment is always difficult as you're essentially getting players who can't make the cut elsewhere/are inexperienced/coming back from injury unless you're prepared to pay daft transfer fees. That's not a bad thing if you only need one or two players to bulk the squad up but we needed 4/5/6 players to come in and hit the ground running, which just isn't realistic. Hopefully he can get it right over the summer with more/better options

1 hour ago, Lee Sinnott said:

A sideways step from Altrincham to Oldham...?

Maybe a bit unfair on Altrincham that 

Is it not arrogant to think Parkinson would want to come here anyway? It's a sideways step at best. He could probably get a job at a league 2 side with fans who won't hound him out after a few months

3 hours ago, Charles or Eddie said:

A younger up and coming manager who is doing things, like the lad at Altrincham for example.

 

Not another ageing manager whose innovative days are way behind them. Or an untested mate from everton

Can't wait to read this thread in a year's time when the young and upcoming manager is on a bad run and people are calling him useless and calling for an experienced manager

Just now, BP1960 said:

 

If only some others had put in half the effort we'd be in the play offs now.

If our other players missed 3/4 of the season we'd be bottom now

58 minutes ago, deyres42 said:

Sticking with a dud manager because he hasn't been in charge for an arbitrary length of time is a dumb strategy.

Sacking manager after manager (35 since 1997) is an amazing strategy and continues to work wonders for the club 

35 minutes ago, oafc1955 said:

 

I wouldn’t give him a blank cheque book…I would give him 2 or 3 signings for the key positions where we are lightweight but no more until he improves our play and demonstrates that he’s capable of moving us forward.

This doesn't fix anything though, does it? So then if he doesn't demonstrate that, yet another manager has to inherit the same squad, and then the cycle starts again?

42 minutes ago, LaticsEddie said:

The Met office have a 15 min by 15 min timeline of the rain and although a rain free night tonight, its non-stop till after the game is finished...

 

I saw someone put on twitter the league rules for if a game cant be played. Im paraphrasing but it says that the league board will award a default 3-0 win to the away team and can issue disciplinary action, a fine, a deduction of up to 3 points from the host along with paying the away teams expenses. Says nothing about venue switching.

 

See you all at Wembley?

33 minutes ago, oafc1955 said:

So….should we have stuck with Unsworth then?

 

 

 

We did stick with Unsworth, he was given a summer to recruit his own players etc. It was a mistake, but he was given that opportunity. Mellon should be offered the same. Changing managers again will just keep taking us backwards. How many managers do we need to go through for people to start getting this?

I'm not saying we should just blindly back him btw. The drop in form has been concerning, and if we don't hit the ground running next season then his position should be in jeopardy. But unless there's a ready made, nailed on success waiting to replace him I don't see what we gain by getting rid tbh

13 minutes ago, Littlemoor Lad said:

Truth is, no manager who doesn't come up with the goods here and fast, ever will.

Such has the ever lasting patience of the fans been tested

Yep. So it's pointless going in for someone like Parkinson. It'll never work here.

I understand why people are frustrated with Mellon. But his track record is good, and he deserves a summer to fix it.

9 minutes ago, Littlemoor Lad said:

Trouble is, his pub team is better than ours 

I'm not saying they aren't. He's been given time and patience at Altrincham. He wouldn't get that here