mad4it

18 hours ago, Dave_Og said:

 

It's almost a quarter of a century since Bosman (and it was unarguably right).  Can't be blaming that this long after the event.

Of course you can blame the Bosman ruling, player no deliberately run down their contacts to either for the club to pay them a higher wage or to allow them to move as a free agent. Prime examples  of this are Aaron Ramsey , and closer to home Chris Porter , both run down their contracts and left for nothing -prior to the Bosman rule , the clubs would have held on to their registration and forced s transfer fee .

22 minutes ago, Dave_Og said:

I see you as one of the most respected and knowledgeable posters but there is no point in pretending the world hasn't changed; it has. Ideally recruitment methods would be a blend of the old and the new but there's no point in just bemoaning the modern way. 

The issue is not scouting (or the lack of it) the problem is that since Bosman, the player have become too powerful and too greedy  - even if could find them, their wage demands would be beyond what we could afford - can you imagine how much players of Ritchie’s ability would command today , when players like Menig can command £11k a week 

I didn’t say it wasn’t  a crap performance or that Carlisle we’re lucky , I said that they scored with almost every shot they had, and implied that we didn’t deserve to lose by 6 goals .

How do you explain the result against Bury if Bunn (and to an extent the performance against Exeter ) was such an unpopular manager and as a team they played far worse against Macclesfield than they did against Carlisle , the performances against Crewe and Morecambe (considering that players normally run through brick walls to impress a new manager) weren’t that sparkling either 

13 minutes ago, mikejh45 said:

May not be different starting 11 but there was a stark difference in attitude from Bunn"s last match to Wild"s first.

 Not really, look at the stats for the Carlisle game , they had a day when everything they hit, came off - 9 shots 7 on target 6 goals v our 9 shots 1 on target 

1 hour ago, mikejh45 said:

 

As I've said before and I'm sticking with this.....we were crap with Bunn and Rhodes. Performances picked up with Wragg coming in but Bunn was still too defensive and negative. We'll just have to disagree on value that Bunn brought to the team.

 

As for the foreign players, there were 4 in the mix in December. I don't think that many would argue that Maouche, Missilou and Nepomaceno are worth their places in the starting line and I would certainly add Branger also. So your last statement is a bit fatuous.

That’s your opinion which you are entitled to and I have mine which I’m also entitled to. 

If you look at the team has been set up by both Pete Wild and Paul Scholes it not s whole lot different than how Frankie Bunn up his teams, and there is a reason for this , we don’t have (or didn’t have) the players to play fast flowing attacking football 

1 hour ago, mikejh45 said:

The basis of your argument is totally unbalanced and one-sided.

I didn't think Bunn was a good manager. Football was poor to average and too defensive.....almost getting knocked out in the FA first round.

Why is it that the two players you named both had an axe to grind after throwing their football toys out of the pram......both have been unprofessional throughout their careers which makes their stories less than believable.

 

 

 

Prior to the Carlisle game , we had started to play some decent football, we beat Bury 4-2, should have got at least draw against Exeter, and had couple of refereeing decisions gone our way in other games we would have been challenging for the top 3. 

 Clearly(in my opinion) what is happening behind the scenes is having an impact on the players .  The owner (or his brother) dictating who plays and who doesn’t , signing players from the bottom of the French lower leagues and paying them far much more than they’re actually worth 

1 hour ago, mikejh45 said:

 

So from what you are saying it might not have happened in which case you can't use it as a weapon.

Never used it as a weapon, but if you’re honest , bunns sacking (whether you like him or not) was harsh , and there had to be more to the picture than just one bad result. No doubt, when former players and employees, like Davies, Gerrard and the kitman tell their stories , the truth will be out , and as they say ..there’s no smoke without fire 

Just now, simplythemostimportantkick said:

He does it a lot. He’s very bad4it

And here the reason why (though not sure why it should be such a contentious issues) ... Allegedly used to convey that something is claimed to be the case or have taken place, although there is no proof.

Just now, mikejh45 said:

How many times are you going to use an alleged incident to suit your argument? I don't think I have come across any other poster who mentions this.

We are 8 weeks on from Exeter and this story remains a story.

I use the word allegedly because it wasn’t there to witness the incident, and those that were haven’t publicly commented on it.

5 minutes ago, adamoafc said:

Bunn has the biggest budget we have had in years. One of the biggest squads aswell. Anyone who gives coke a 2 year deal shouldn’t be anywhere near managing the club! 

Really, is that why haven’t been able to name a full bench on at least 2 occasions this season.

4 hours ago, mikejh45 said:

There was only one player who stood by Bunn and that was Miller.

Perhaps the real reason for Bunns sacking was that a certain player (allegedly) had AL by throat after his dressing room, after he stormed into after the Exeter game

4 hours ago, mikejh45 said:

 

Nonsense..….out of the 18 players, 3 came through the system, 2 were at the club before AL, 5 were loanees brought in by Bunn/Rhodes, 4 were signed by Bunn/Rhodes leaving 4 brought in by AL/ML. I would say that less than 25% had some affiliation with the owner.

No. Bunn lost the dressing room.....that's if he ever had it.

So taking in to consideration that Bunn was sacked for one bad performance (Carlisle) would you say tha Wild lost the dressing because of the Macclesfield performance and that Scholes has (already ) lost the dressing room because of the performances against Crewe and Morecambe.

Of the players that Bunn was allowed to sign on a permanent basis all were at the end of their careers (or had been brought out of retirement) , do you really that Bunn with 20+ years experience in youth development only wanted to sign 33 year old players, or do you think his hands were tied by the budget he had been given ?

42 minutes ago, mikejh45 said:

On the other hand, if the team felt Bunn was harshly treated, they would have pulled out all the stops and produced the goods at Carlisle to show the owner they were with the manager.

The owner signed half of the players , so that was going to be very unlikely. 

43 minutes ago, Ryan said:

We were in good form until the Exeter game (a few days before he was sacked) so that seems silly. IIRC we went up to 5th during that match when Lang put us ahead. Bunn exceeded my expectations for the season in all honesty, our squad is poor.

We actually played well against Exeter, but failed to deal the Jayden Stockley , we should have also had a clear penalty when was fouled I’m the area . Yes the performance s few days later cost Bunn his Job , but if the rumours are true, the owner kicking off in the dressing room after the exetyhe wouldn’t have helped team morale 

1 hour ago, underdog said:

we got what we deserved again.

 

Total absence of a midfield. What's happening with Fane? route one would be nice, like George did first half run at defenders, get a shot off, get lucky with e rebound. grrr..no one runs through to the D.

 

I like the look of their no 26 and 27 and I don;t know who weaved past two of our defenders on our goal line to set up their win

 

I know Scholes is a week in but on the balance, Pete Wild seems to be better.

 

 

Midfield has been an issue all season , we simply can’t hold on to the ball , and defence keeps getting swamped (as was the case against Crewe on Saturday) .

19 minutes ago, yarddog73 said:

Honestly think we'd be no worse off with Frankie Dull and he'd of probably of brought in two or three in the window who could of made us better and actually been able to play.

Bunn was just the scapegoat, apart from Carlisle, we had started to play some decent football . The players need to take a longer hard look at themselves after the last 2 games, if they’re up for the fight , then **** them off and play the young lads from the academy.

47 minutes ago, Dave_Og said:

 

I did actually work with a bloke called Hugh Dick some years ago.  He was at a black tie dinner and whoever did the table plan sat him next to someone called Juliet Blows

I worked with a guy called Wayne Kerr , his dad was called joe and his was called Anne .

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Clearly mcfluff doesn’t agree with you 

5 minutes ago, mcfluff1985 said:

When you join? 

Didn’t realise the trust a operated closed shop / a cash for questions policy ? 

3 minutes ago, Monty Burns said:

 

Instead of googling ‘quotes to look clever’ or just blind posting, try googling sumat like ‘spurs pay for rochdale pitch.’

Willprobably bring up several stories saying rochdale paid £500K for a new pitch.

Instead of using the word probably, try giving me the link ?

3 minutes ago, Magic Mikey said:

Waits while Mad4it looks for a quote from Back to the Future to try and justify his nonsense.

Do need to look for a quote , but any fool could see how badly the pitch deteriorated during the last 3rd of last season and dispite a decent summer and a relatively mild winter, the pitch is as bad if not worse than last year. 

You however, seem to think the state of the playing surface is not important.

1 hour ago, LightDN123 said:

Pitch is shite in fairness. But AL probably had more urgent things to use the 500k for. 

Where do you get  your £500k from ? I’m sure Tottenham did pay anything like that when they paid for Rochdale’s new pitch .

4 minutes ago, Monty Burns said:

Pitch will be upgraded in the summer.

It was reseeded in the summer, not upgraded 

10 minutes ago, mcfluff1985 said:

You pay for it then you clown

Clearly you think the state of the pitch and the lack of investment in it is acceptable then ... and you call me a clown 

39 minutes ago, rudemedic said:

The pitch should of been upgraded a few years ago, but Corney chose the cheaper option of doing fuck all. 

And so did Lemsagam ,I go to the gym in the north stand, and work on the pitch didn’t start until at least 3 weeks after the season ended. Wellens (before he was sacked) said the pitch had cost us games and hoped we’d get s new one ... bit all Lemsagam did was to provide free food for the pigeons by reseeding .