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41 minutes ago, jorvik_latic said:

 

Point still stands, give me proof he isn’t a wrongun. 

Simple, he could have walked away at the same time as  blitz’s and Gazal, but he didn’t  ... and over to you ?????

21 minutes ago, underdog said:

Necarcu loan?

In desperate times , people resort to desperate measures, why do you think payday loan companies exist , is it because people really want to pay extortionate interest rates, or could it be they’ve exhausted every other option available to them (and so to speak ) have had to agree being ripped off to feed the family... unless you know different, the EFL doesn’t do food banks!!!! 

57 minutes ago, simplythemostimportantkick said:

You seem to have good knowledge of the workings of the club for somebody with a Man City username ...

How the f..k can you associate a particular user name to any club... for example I could be called cityboy, does this indicate that I’m a young (man) city fan , or does it indicate that I work / live in the city... the connotations are endless  ?????

2 minutes ago, underdog said:

Not plan to but is....OAFC 2004 if you look at 2017 accounts submitted at companies house

You seem to believe that ,oafc is a massive cash cow, that being the case please tell me why it took so 14 years to sell in the club ???

2 minutes ago, maddog said:

 

 

A simple ‘minus’ would’ve sufficed, Simon. 

FFS you’re obsessed with this Simon theory, you really do need to stop watching, the soaps and believing in tooth fairy and father christmas!!!! 

8 minutes ago, jorvik_latic said:

 

Give me proof he wasn’t a “wronging”. 

Ok split in hairs now are we , do just for you I’ll correct,  autocorrect (because it doesn’t speak Oldham ) , give me proof that he was a “wrongun”  

7 minutes ago, underdog said:

There was planning for 90 house, behind the chaddy which would include the loss of little wembly (45 have been built)...I was looking at the line of sight and losing little wembly could still happen subject to road access.

 

Then you have the land and car park the club sits on

 

Then you have the land that goes at the back of the frizzell stand, partially sold for the renal unit and up sheepfoot lane. That did have planning permission to build was to be NHS staff flats, four stories high, with health centre. Still room to develop around there

 

GMSF back on the agenda with open consultation for green belt land to be grabbed, there is a motion that those developers who had/have planning permission should be force to complete their house builds before greenbelt losses.

 

There is still money to be made

Of course there’s still money to be made, but that is reliant in the site being developed, but please tell which business, you are aware of , that are plan to run at a loss ? 

11 minutes ago, jorvik_latic said:

 

Make up your mind. You said Corney wasn’t as bad but now you’re talking about the other 2? Corney (singular) was a wrongun. 

The other 2 left Corney holding the baby , again I wil ask , give me the proof for that he was a “wronging” ?????

26 minutes ago, maddog said:

 

Is that plus or minus the several million made from sales and cup runs? Oh, and selling sell-on clauses?

What cup runs (they were few and far between) and the last player we sold was big money was earl barrett, as for the (Tarkowski)  sell on clause , it was a case of damned if you do and damned if you don’t (and the money from selling it , may have kept the wolves from the door (and kept the club afloat) we lost money by refusing to sell on the Micah Richards clause (and ended up with nothing) , we also list money when Chris Porter shafted us by f..king off Motherwell 

19 minutes ago, lookersstandandy said:

 

.....yes.... but the profit they could make by building on the land was significantly more than the £3m they got it for.... hence, any money they pumped into the football club - in the early days, presumably with good intensions - they were always able to claw back via the land.

 

Like @underdog said, I am partially grateful they saved us from liquidation, but it was also clear that they had a Plan (and I could therefore understand their motivation) to recoup their losses if it went tits up. It went tits up.....

Apart from a couple of dozen houses on the site of the former Clayton Arms (which the club made no money from , because JW Lees owned the pouring rights) , the site remains largely undeveloped , so you can hardly say that they’ve made large swaithes of money from the land (at best they’ve broken even) ,I’m not sure about your understanding of economics, but the purpose of any business is to make money, yes had things gone to plan the car park would now be a housing estate, and they may have made a few quid, but in the same sense we would have had a nice new ground and the borough of Oldham would had had improved (amateur) sporting facilities 

13 minutes ago, jorvik_latic said:

 

He was. 

So let’s do the maths , AL is claiming to be putting £200k a month in to the club to keep it afloat, which suggests that (initially) the TTA  (and latterly)  corney (wether financed by Blitz or not (and assuming similar costs ( although I’m sure they would have been higher because of the higher league position))) , they would have “invested” close to £34m during the 24 years they “owned” the club .., clearly set of bad b....rd’s the lot of them!!!!!!

1 hour ago, lookersstandandy said:

 

1. I'm lost on the point you're making..... as that appears to be the same thing I've already said.....

 

2. That should highlight to those who defend him, how woefully Lemsagam is running the club.....

 

3. His? It was Blitz's plan to move to Failsworth so he could maximise the value of BP.... Corney was a bit part player in that....

 

 

The point I’m making is that corney wasn’t as bad as the picture you paint of him.

you also claim the 3 amigos had already claimed the loans  back in the value of the land and the house built on it ... the brought the land back from the council , so any profit they made from it was there’s in the first place, in the same sense that if you sell your house any profit made on it will be yours to keep and not the previous owner !!!!

9 minutes ago, underdog said:

sorry decided I needed a bath....The SLO is for your matchday/club experience/issues. It is seperate to what the Trust does which i have mentioned on a previous thread from another posted who quoted the same line,

 

The club should be holding fan/club meetings three times a season. They haven't so far

 

Again we have digressed onto a different topic. There is a seperate pinned trust thread for questions so any of the Trust team then does not miss any questions on reams/pages of thread if you log off for a bit

 

Thanks

Thanks for the clarification, like the majority of the fans I’m concerned about the future of the club 

4 minutes ago, Monty Burns said:

10 is a striker.

A number 10 is a attacking midfielder / play maker , and it is clearly evident that this is a position that we need to fill 

5 minutes ago, jorvik_latic said:

 

Not my place to enlighten. Soz.

Taken from the mission statement on the trusts website 

“Working with the Supporter Liaison Officer, Trust Oldham will help to provide a structured communication channel for Oldham Athletic fans” 

The words here being  structured communication ... soz 

4 minutes ago, Kusunga_Is_God said:

We would have had more fun and success if we just went bust in 04 and did a Wimbledon.

Wimbledon didn’t go bust, they were bought out by a franchise, who as soon as the agreement to stay in Wimbledon expired, they moved the club to Milton Keynes and rebranded the club  as MK Dons

12 hours ago, lookersstandandy said:

 

What point are you arguing....?..... my original post said this....

 

"When TTA took the club on from the administrator and we began with a clean slate, they got the land as part of the deal. Whilst they probably fancied their chances of playing at football ownership for a while - in the liquidity abundant times pre credit crunch - they always had their insurance policy to fall back on. It was therefore easy to see/understand their motives."

 

 

The point I’m making is that they had no obligation to stick around once acquired the reason for taking over the club ie the land . This would have left us in the same position as Bradford Park Avenue - playing Sunday league football, you call corney uselesd, but at least under him we had a CEO and board of directors. His plans to build a new ground were scuppered on numerous occasional asions by the local dog walkers and allotment users 

10 minutes ago, lookersstandandy said:

 

For clarity, this isn't a thread about Chris Moore - a bone fide, proven in court crook. It's Corney/TTA vs Lemsagam.....

 

For clarity, it’s called supporting evidence, used to emphasise a point in question in the case the claim that the 3 amigos only took over the club because of the land , that may have been one of their primary objectives, but only they can confirm that . However once they attained their pot of gold, they could have pulled the plug, in the same way that Chris Moore did  

5 minutes ago, underdog said:

knowledgeable yet playful with testing the waters...did get me curious the recent postings

Knowledgeable? It’s called research , simple to carry out , particularly as we now have a handy new tools like the internet and search engines , it certainly beats the blinkered the 3 amigos haters . 

Just now, Monty Burns said:

So, what assetts have we got?

We haven’t got any, but again the club could have been placed in liquidation 14 years ago and gone out of existence 

Just now, jorvik_latic said:

 

Registered for 10 years, first post yesterday! Hmmm. Hi Si.

Erm, why the hell would corney, be interested in posting on here , before , but the recent events at the (to quote Davieset al) the circus, prompted me to do do, I was also curious as to why the trust who are supposed to the fans representatives at the club, have been silent through out , sti waiting to be enlightened!!!! The 

14 minutes ago, lookersstandandy said:

 

Semantics..... they took on the club, only on the proviso they got the land [at the same price the council bought it for, when it was likely worth more]..... they had looked at buying Hull City prior to Latics, but couldn't get the same assurances on Boothferry Park.

But the fact still remain, they could have walked away from the club 14 years ago, and left the club in the same deep  sh.t , that Chris Moore left it in i.e in administration with no assets. 

Likely worth more, now there’s an ambiguous statement ? 

58 minutes ago, lookersstandandy said:

When TTA took the club on from the administrator and we began with a clean slate, they got the land as part of the deal. Whilst they probably fancied their chances of playing at football ownership for a while - in the liquidity abundant times pre credit crunch - they always had their insurance policy to fall back on. It was therefore easy to see/understand their motives.

No they didn’t they bought the land back from the council for £3m , and could quite easily pulled out once this was acquired, knocked the ground down and built a retail park or housing complex and left us in the s..t like Chris More did ...!!!!

1 hour ago, Kusunga_Is_God said:

Corney was an actual crook, it’s only really

come to light since his departure. Up until then he still had some die hard supporters on this forum.

 

Abdallah is a chancer who probably deep down has good intentions but evidently has a raging ego problem.

Not many crooks invest substantial amounts of money to support a failing football club for 14 years, and before you throw the asset stripping card on the table... when the 3 amigos took over the club, we were in administration, the best players had already left and the ground was owned by the council. But please enlighten me on how he is a crook, no doubt the crown prosecution services will be eagerly awaiting your evidence!!!

yet again the silence from the club and all those involved in it is deafening ???