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count me in to. If it can work anywhere near as good as it did with beckett it will be good for the team.

This is in my area of work.

It's the same as many smallish biusinesses.

It's much less hassle for someone else to do it

You have have to have a reasonable amount of people on the payroll to cover it, the hasle of covering someone of sick etc, and not having anyone else to call upon.

You'd pay a person just to manage it.

Particualarly at football games there will be wide variances in stock.

You can move that around (at cost) if catering is your business but Latics would not be ab le to , not at a loss anyway.

So although it can make sense in house (part of my role) often it make sense to outsource, leaving Latics toconcentrate on course business of being a football club.

I'd say for the staffing hasles's it's worth outsourcing alone.

 

Whether that compnay is doing a good job, and best for it, is a whoel new ball game.

But emailing the club if it runs out of pies, surly staff is the best instant communication there is.

It's in black and white and something to hold the caterers to account.

It depends on the level of Supervision built into the contract.

 

It seems closely monitored though, given that we (well gordon!) chooses the pies!

i agree that there would be a lot of work involved and the easiest thing is to get caterers in to do it but would latics really be worse off finacially doing it themself?

It is usually about bulk buying of stock (that one club may not be able to do compared to a catering concern with year round requirements) and the fact that if I wanted to run the catering at Latics I could pay myself a wage out of the profits (the £600 you mention for instance) and do it. The club would still have to pay the wage of the person doing that job, whether it was me or not, and so there isn't the guarantee that they would actually turn any profit.

i disagree. you wouldnt need someone to run the catering, you would need your part-time match day staff (5hrs) and 1 person to do a full day on match days and as far as bulk buying goes you can go to any cash and carry and put a burger or hotdog together for 35p so if you was to bulk buy in large quantities you might get it down to 25p saving 10p an item which sell at around £2.50 which is only 4% extra profit which is very little.

the bookies would need the same match day staff and somebody to do a little research on the internet getting the odds together.

It's not that black and white though is it?

 

I say again, if it was simple for Latics to make more money doing it themselves what would the motivation be to move to an outsourced system?

i dont know, that would be a question for the club not me. i just can't see how the club doing it themself would have any more overheads than what the caterers or the bookies have got.

It's not that simple though, is it?

 

I know the club make mistakes but if they were making more before they outsources those services than they are now I'm pretty sure they'd change back, no?

the caterers and bookies obviously pay latics a fee to work there, they might make £1000 each profit and pay latics say £400 leaving them with £600 for themself. if latics ran them they would make the whole £1000. obviously i dont know exact figures but with food, beer and the bookies the club will be losing out on a decent amount each game. these companys are taking money of the fans which could be going to the club.

Isn't the shortfall £15k a week though?

 

The £1.5m (is that rght?) a year operating costs is part funded by the various revenue streams - gate receipts / STs, TV money, advertising money, food franchises, beer franchises, betting franchises etc.

 

To cover the £15k a week from 3000 pockets would take £5 per person. You wouldn't get 3000 doing it though.

 

 

All of this though is skirting round the big issue.

 

What are Simon Blitz and Danny Gazal's intentions for the land that they own around BP, and for the land they own in Failsworth?

In the event that they sell this land, what will the impact be on the club?

 

Would such sales be done in the best interest of the club as they have (I think) always stated they would be?

surely if the club didnt franchise the betting, food and beer and ran them themself we could earn a good chunck of the 15k a week needed.

im not trying to say it will happen, just letting people know what i was told. the guy who as told me as no reason to lie but he too could have just been told a rumour but what got me thinking was why would a rumour like this be going round a club like celtic?

scohles doesnt live in middleton but he went to school here and lived here till about 7 or 8 years ago.

ive typed celtic director adrian in to google and it seems they have a commercial director called adrian filby.

dont know how much truth is in this but ive just had a phone call from a supplier of mine who lives in glasgow telling me that scholes is to play till christmas at utd then finsh the season at latics and retire at the end of the season. he is a celtic fan and was told by a friend of his called adrian (didnt get his surname), who is a director at celtic. apparently he was told by somebody he knew at old trafford. ive heard many rumours before about scholes finishing his career at bp and living in middleton i know a few people who are still friends with scholes from when he lived here but none of them have heard him say he will play for latics. so like i said dont know how much truth is in it but just thought id let you all know.