Delfer

Why not buy a ST because you want to support the club that you have followed for many a year?

 

I'm buying one because; I'm an Oldham fan and for £13 a game I still think im getting pretty decent value. £20 a game I may think otherwise.

Bit more than just "an Oldham fan" in fairness aren't you?

Everyone always asks about the Steer.

 

Why is this?

In the one pre season game I saw him in he looked quite promising

I agree, £400k for Taylor and he'd be long gone!

 

I just don't see how Steer is even close to an option on the left wing for us. He's a great lad, but he's not good enough to play left wing in League One.

You've seen him more than I have I guess but looking at the state of our team, and the results, how can you judge who is good enough to play? Smalley has had more than enough chances, Parker is gash etc etc.

Just thought it's a different option, no point in having up and coming players if they never actually get a chance - look at Stephens for example.

...?....

 

 

Aside from that, you'd play a left back on the left wing in place of arguable (if not at the moment) the most talented player in the team?

You having a bad day? I said its an option, he hasn't been making the bench. Just an option that's all. As for Taylor can you believe that people were wanting £1m plus for him?

Anything near £300-400K and TTA would take it, and I wouldn't blame em.

JJ's left footed...

Really? Bugger me; I hadn't noticed .How about the option of 2 left sided players on the left? Instead of the one trick ginger pony.

Name..........................Ackey

Specialist subject..........The bleedin' obvious!

Who does Smalley think he is in that get up? try being a footballer first lad. Rene Steer as answered all those asking why doesn't he play. Furman why he can't pass nor score. Taylor "I won't reach" admits he's a tart. Parker is lying git confirm..announced himself as a striker!! embarrassing all round if you ask me.

Think I'd rather judge Steer on the pitch in a game, not hitting one shot at a crossbar. In the pre-season friendly he looked lively & hungry, and naturally left footed - something thats missing on our left flank.

...and it all makes for interesting debate. I'm not an advocate of switching managers after a short period of time so I won't hook on the Penney out bait.

 

Sheridan is a bloody good coach. Not the best manager in the business, nobody says that he is - but at Oldham we saw him orchestrate some really good football. The problems that happened in the background and behind the scenes in the latter stages of his reign I think can be attributed to poor management on Corney's behalf. He's the one who must sanction the requests of the manager, he's the one who ultimately managed Sheridan. If Corney had set his stall out and explained to Sheridan the as team Manager, he must re-inforce the standards expected as outlined by Corney himself, the team may well have been more motivated and manageable.

 

I got the impression that Corney turned a blind eye to the whole situation, a situation that got out of hand and Sheridan couldn't control. So what did Corney do? Well, instead of supporting the Team Manager and laying down the law he bowed to public pressure and took the path of least resistance, hoping to stay onside with the fans by appointing Royle within hours. Which was a master stroke for Corney's popularity when you look at the gate against Tranmere last season.

 

For me the problem lies much higher up in the structure.

Some good points there, forgive me if I don't blow smoke up your arse like some others have done!

I think the relationship between the two, as you've alluded to is vital. Especially as this was Shez's first proper job as a Manager. He still made some poor decisions but again seemed to improve. The big issue is choice of players and who had the final say on transfers, loans ins and outs etc.....

It is interesting that it is generally agreed Sean Gregan has been player of the season, that Ruben Hazell is a rock.

I am sure that the problems are the strikers not scoring, lack of midfield bite and lack of out and out wingers.

Yet we are still conceding sloppy or careless goals.

I think you've spelt that wrong

It's true. He even lives over there with you in Yorkshire. Sorry, I meant Delph.

Still don't believe you Jamie - are you sure he's not using a double bluff to fool you, then runs away sniggering, wiping the tears of laughter on his gold and green scarf?

Oh I do worry about their problems, poor lambs..............

I thought the same, anyway what I meant was is the M60 a kind of mental border for some...you know....cross the M60 and you are in ~Manchester

No it isn't

Oldham side, I didn't realise that your geographical knowledge would be tested to the extreme otherwise I would have told you to refer to a map

Well pardon me for asking, not sure if you're fishing or just being a knob. The M60 has no relevance to the location, it's a recently built road that just happens to be where it is for completely different reasons.

Sorry you didn't understand specific, I should have referred you to a dictionary.

Just out of interest would many of you have such a problem of the location if the stadium were to be built Oldham side of the M60? Even if it were bordering the M60 Oldham side....I'm just wondering

The M60 is massive - where do you mean specifically?

Not rose coloured at all. Note that I found difficulty in the post regarding criticism aimed at Brill and the defence, when it's plain to see (even through my rose coloured glasses!), that our problem is creating and goalscoring (now even Stevie Wonders glasses could see that!)

As for DP - Rose coloured - far from it.......Realistic and patient - Definately! I would imagine that you had little to say after Walsall at home, Brighton and Charlton away........Whilst realising we are not in a great position, patience is a virtue - not a merry go round of managers every 6 months!!

I actually half agree with you. By referencing the goals I wasn't able to see any context, the defence has probably been better than the attack this season.

Good teams defend as a unit & attack as one. So we'll blame the midfield, after all he's only got about 15 of those to select from!!!

Just seen the goals on Sky - Brill at falult for the first - 2nd goal defence all over the shop

Sound familiar?

anyone getting pre-match jitters???

 

I blooming hope we can muster a win.....and not be at the end of a thumping..

 

C'mon you bluueesss......

No. Not had jitters with Latics for years, pre match post match or during the friggin match!

I thought you had retired

So did I. After the song and dance he made of his retirement, playing the martyr - just short of some wood to make a cross!

Perhaps an admission to an over re-action might be in order?

I actually know a United fan who's even magnaminous in defeat. He's as rare as hens teeth mind.

I don't believe you

although i`m oldham born and bred...... for over twenty years i`ve kept close with several friends in failsworth .......and i`ve met many friends of there`s from the nearby area/s , woodhouses/moston/newton heath/miles platting....etc.........and in my humble experience, geography aside, as the cliche goes, they are no different to you or me ........it`s true !!

 

but you would be very hard pushed to find one of them who even remotely thinks of themselves as anything other than `mancunian`.

 

example : whilst we in oldham go `up town` ie: into oldham town centre........they as failsworth/mancunians go `into town` ie: into manchester....it`s just the way it is.....it`s a fact.

 

it`s a whole different mindset just past where the owd roxy used to be.......the accent difference and culture change within a fifty yard stretch of when hollinwood turns into `failswurf` is living proof of it!!!.

 

as far as the majority of folk i`ve met there are concerned, they are from failswurf in manchestaw.... `end of` for them.

 

it is this little bell which most latics fans can clearly hear at some level of consciousness......and given the above, it just isn`t ringing right regarding the proposed stadium move.

Good post!

Tim Lovejoy set up channelbee, a good website that gave a name to the stereotypical manc previosly seen on Soccer AM, played by Fenners.

He was Tony Maloney, look him up on you tube.

Enough of gun crime etc, lets lighten up a bit!

If the link doesn't work can someone make it please, ta.

the new ground isnt going in manchester though is it....if anything its on the borders of chadderton moston failsworth and newton heath

 

manchester as far as im concerned means manchester centre,and not the surrounding areas...

 

if you want to be picky then oldham is in greater manchester and has been for years.

 

i can understand to an extent people saying oh we will lose our identity...but it isnt anything like what happened to wimbledon is it.

To me the new ground would be in Manchester - YES! that's my point.

To be clear by mentioning Wimbledon & West Ham I was referring to the style of play, not Franchise FC etc

As a starter, growing up as a Latics fan you got United, and to a lesser extent City shoved down your throats. I don't dislike Mancs per say but when it comes to football, which is a culture in itself then it's behaviours that matter. A West Ham fan would never settle for football the Wimbledon way, there are certain things in football that just are and Latics being in Failsworth is one of them.

I went to Chaddy Grammar and we had lads from Failsworth at our school, they were a different breed! As I've said in a previous post I've nothing against Mancs in general, I Like the city to shop/eat/drink etc but does our club belong there? I've always felt out of Oldham & into Manchester when I pass Holinwood on the A62 or the Broadway pub on the A633.

I don't expect it to make sense to everyone and I accept I might be in a minority (or a silent majority, who knows?)

Anyway Ackey, you asked the question.....................

Maybe Gordon fell over.

Bet he caught his pie before it hit the floor!

I live near to the centre of Oldham and that is also full of mancs aswell though!

I know, its not good lol. I worked there for 5 years some time ago, I like the place, my best man came from Gorton, I shop and sometimes drink/eat in the city , great place. I enjoy the banter etc

However............ I'd like my team, OAFC to be in Oldham, an Oldham that feels like Oldham. it's a personal thing that obviously means more to some than others. There's no right & wrong, think I've said enough.

I know I'm being a bit facecious but does not having an Oldham accent mean you can't support Oldham? I don't have an Oldham accent, I don't have a Mancunian accent, many of the things I say have a distinctive Southern edge to them (my grass rhymes more with arse than ass), living amongst the North Easterners doesn't help me retain the weird accent I had at 17 (probably the same for a lot of the exiles) and I don't have a clue what a keckle is.

 

I'm still unsure what all the fuss is about the location of Failsworth and whether it has more links to Oldham, especially if you compare it to some other boundary parts of Oldham e.g. Saddleworth, or whether it has more links to Manchester. This is probably because I don't class myself as ever having really come from Oldham. The powers that be have decided that its in the best interests of the football club to move to Failsworth, I'm not particularly for or against the move to Failsworth I want what's best for the club.

 

All this talk of I'm not going to Failsworth because it is in Manchester or it isn't in Oldham, strikes me a bit like this is a local club for local people we'll have none of your kind here. Its just a pity then than very few of the local people actually bother supporting their local team and would much rather support the team a couple of miles down the road who are much bigger. The owners are from London, they don't care whether Failsworth is in Manchester or Oldham the same way that we don't care that Chelsea's ground is in Fulham and Fulham's ground is in Putney, they want what is best for a combination of themselves and the club.

Some fair points well put - but I haven't tried to say anything apart from that in my opinion Latics in Failsworth doesn't feel right, it's full of Mancs. As I've also said if it's Failsworth or nothing then that really is a tough one, I really do think fate will intervene, again.

You're right about the combination of themselves & the club, but what is the %age??

 

A magnificent put-down my friend.

 

I wasn't trying to use my working for Latics as some sort of 'I know more than you' - apologies if that's how it came across - simply that from the inside, day in day out, you develop an appreciation for just how awful it is.

 

As part of the 92IB trip last year we, somewhat obviously, visited every ground and I'd place BP in the bottom 5 of the 92 League Clubs.

I agree - it's a mess, and the ultimate decision of Failsworth or nowt is not one I want to comtemplate (got a feeling fate will intervene)

Speaking of the trip, and the photo, I presume the people on the pic are all contributors on here? Faces to names?