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I've just spent a small fortune on flights to New Zealand. I'd recommend others do the same at least once.

Unfortunately Korean Air weren't on the player share web shop.

Down side of having such a high percentage of children in the crowd due to cheap tickets ,the ones who invaded the pitch all have parents or guardians. .....no fear or respect of authority and what is right & wrong.

Its even worse that some of those so-called parents were taking their kids on to the pitch with them.

Same I'd be off to stalybridge

Me too, would join the Chorley revolution. Its much closer for me and they played better football last time I saw them!

Sounds like LJ rates Simpson. From fishul on why he was made captain - http://www.oldhamath...prv-781128.aspx

He said: "Robbie is good around the club and he is a captain in his game.

"He was a natural choice because of his demeanour behind the scenes and you see he is willing in his game.

"Robbie has bought into what I am trying to do and he has been a soldier. You would take him in the trenches.

"If you had to pick three or four players to go into war with, Robbie would be one of them which is why I thought it was right for him to be captain."

Now this could be LJ defending his decision (if he see's Simmo as the best of what we had available) but he seems to rate him as much for his attitude/personality as what he does on the pitch. This bit about picking players to go into war with, is he eluding to picking players to keep for next season?

"We meet again, at last. The circle is now complete. When I left you, I was but the learner; now *I* am the master."

He was nowhere near excellent, not even close to good!

He was really poor in every aspect in the first half, he did ok in the second and seemed to grow in confidence as the game panned out. He'll be a lot better for the experience but looks a long way from the standard needed at this level.

Agree with this.

Difficult to criticise the lad as he was clearly nervous and playing against a decent striker but also not right to say it was a great debut. Hopefully he can kick on from here.

Keep him on the bench, keep the same 11.

What a sub to have available if things aren't working out.

Lets not dismiss Shrewsbury/Colchester as 3 poor results for them between now and the end of the season will make them easily catchable.

It seems inconceivable but we'll go above Colchester if we win on Tuesday and they lose to MK Dons.

The results of the political compass test are interesting. It seems that regardless of differing views on how the economy should be managed, we're all in agreement about the value of our freedom (I don't think anyone's scored above 0 on the Authoritarian/Libertarian).

I find that interesting as I don't think I'd place any UK politician below that horizontal line.

Kirk Millar has been like a breath of fresh air, now I see what the club must have seen in him. Passion, fight and skill, still looks a bit lightweight but shows some of the others how it should be done.

Plus he's got great ball control, is bloody fast and can put an excellent cross in. He's winning me over, I'd written him off as another Wolfenden type.

When you include false accounting (PFI, unfunded pensions), Blair and Brown were spending 5% more than they took in tax even at the height of their inflationary boom. This is the fact that will not go away.

And lets not forget that Blair lied about WMDs in Iraq, leading to the deaths of 179 members of the armed forces/MOD staff.

Hope we can finally get a win against a top 12 club.

Here's that political test if anyone's interested:

http://www.politicalcompass.org/test

Some of the questions are obvious in terms of whether they're referring to socialism vs capitalism but others are far more subtle. Give it a go, you might be surprised where you end up.

I wasn't involved in an argument. I just liked the song.

 

If he doesn't want it I'll have it.

By posting it in a thread which has descended into an argument about Thatcher, you involved yourself in it!

But I like the song too, can never get enough FT. If you've not already seen him you should check him out live if you get the chance. He's in Manchester on Wednesday and Leeds on Friday.

Agreed. There's a survey somewhere on the internets that tells you where you are on that graph. Oddly enough I'm in the empty quarter...

Me too. It made me laugh when some of my friends did that questionnaire and ended up in that quarter, going against what they thought their political views were!

That was fascism.

Yes and ironically extreme forms of either right or left aren't that far different in practice - look at Stalin and Hitler, supposedly at the opposite ends of the political spectrum and yet had a lot in common in terms of power concentrated at the centre and little freedom for the people.

I always felt Orwell was referring to Authoritarian vs Libertarian rather than left vs right (if he was being critical of the extreme right, don't forget he wrote Animal Farm too). I personally view fascism as extreme authoritarianism (regardless of left/right specifically) although acknowledge the theoretical definitions vary and usually associate fascism with the extreme right.

I like to consider politics using the grid model below and get fed up of the tired left vs right arguments so often heard these days when its far more nuanced. Unfortunately all our current politicians are so close together in practice we have no real choice.

I'm a huge FT fan and get the impression he wouldn't want that song used in an argument like this:

http://frank-turner.com/contact-faq/

Why don’t you play “Thatcher :censored:ed The Kids” any more? I got bored of the song, and more specifically, I got bored of the tedious political associations that came with it. I won’t be playing it again. Sorry. Feel free to reclaim it yourself.

What are your politics? Are you a protest singer? Nope, no protest singing from here. I suppose I could be called a libertarian, though I prefer “classical liberal” as a label, if I have to have one. I am not a socialist.

I ain't committing to a season in there until I know how generous the leg room is going to be!

I might give it a try at a cheapo JPT game though.

Money from the cup run? ...What money from the cup run?

Talking of nutters who were also pants (and a liability) ... Alan Smart!

He was pants but scored probably the greatest goal I've ever seen at BP. I think it was vs Brentford - Smart made a great run from deep, Eyres played a defence-splitting through ball right into Smart's path which he flicked up and volleyed in, all in one fluid motion.

I wouldn't be in favour of a minute's silence for any ex-PM, regardless of their political leanings.

Simpson played a good 5 minutes that day.

 

Smith was the star.

Simpson had a great game against Liverpool as well.

Offered little else all season.

Don't worry, my Preston supporting Ex boss has just emailed me.

 

 

"Sorry...... Sure you will stay up.... Ten times better than scunthorpe"

Yea, its all fine. One of my PNE supporting colleagues (of which I have a few) has just told me Scunthorpe are "way worse than Oldham".

How the hell have we scored 6 goals against PL opposition this season but couldn't manage one tonight?

LJ is blameless? The players were a disgrace first half but who picked the side which started the game? Who picked the formation with no wingers meaning both fullbacks were exposed? Its no coincidence Brown and Grounds had nightmare first halves.

Credit to LJ for turning it round though, we were a different side in the second half.

If the people aren't doing it freely and they expect something in return, its not volunteering and takes the club into acting as their employer. From the individuals point of view, they could potentially lose any support/benefits they are recieving.

I don't know the ins and outs of the system but I'm sure something like this could be gotten around if the club didn't explicitly state that the work would result in free tickets.

I'd be in favour of a voluntary work scheme at OAFC - it'd be a great way to engage with the community and help people gain work experience, especially if it could be extended beyond simply shifting frost covers.

I wouldn't be in favour of a blanket discount for unemployed fans. As others have said, attending football is (although it doesn't feel very much like it at BP) a luxury. Should we also have cheaper concert tickets and cinema tickets for the unemployed?

All that aside, I'm not sure there's a strong business case for it regardless. I imagine there are a few unemployed who attend already - any increase in attendance (which, lets be honest, would be very small) would by offset by the loss in revenue from those already attending. Lets say there are 50 unemployed attending at £19 - that's £950. If the price was dropped to £12 we'd need 80 to attend to get the same income.