blueatheart

When does the football season start again? 

Michael Clegg.

He's played in the champions league don't you know.

1 hour ago, Magister said:

9th June

Depends where you live.

1 minute ago, HarryBosch said:

Can we all agree that, at least where residential care is concerned, this is all better than the existing policy that, I think, Labour brought in? 

Yes. Without a shadow of a doubt.

1 minute ago, View Of Golden Gate said:

 

Person A owns a £200,000 home and that is their single asset, they require care in their home but not residential. Their need of care increases, they want to leave their children and family the home, but know that years of care will see their home worth less and less to their family. 

They realise that an early death would mean more will left to their family than going on for years needing care, it will be cheaper for 65 year old to drop dead instantly then to die years later. Not out of the realms of possibility, and even it if it is only 5% that have this train of thought, surely that is too many?

And it is capped at £100k?

Much better than the current policies, believe me.

12 minutes ago, View Of Golden Gate said:

 They are a weak government losing it's lead and in serious trouble of losing power, people want change and only Labour offer that. 

Really? A ten point lead in the polls even after this policy disagrees with you.

Christ, U-turns already? That isn't a good image. Brings the 'coalition of chaos' into sharper focus, but which side??

Just now, adamoafc said:

Whose to say we haven't withheld because they owned us the ticket money? 

We loaned Taylor in January. The game against Bolton was in April... besides, the article says so (and it is their typo).

Latics CEO Mark Moisley reckons the missing cash could have a “big impact” on his club’s ability to pay the bills over the leaner summer months. But The Bolton News understands Wanderers are also owed money from Oldham, with the loan fee for winger Chris Taylor noiw nearly four months overdue

16 minutes ago, HarryBosch said:

Labour aren't happy.

....and yet will quite happily accept the improved performance in the polls.

On 5/19/2017 at 10:45 PM, ChaddySmoker said:

It would be interesting to see which club was first not to pay the other.

Us. By months.

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/15299666.Wanderers_and_Oldham_Athletic_in_cash_stalemate/

Those in glass houses.....fucking idiots.

4 minutes ago, frizzell54 said:

 

UKIP and Cons both standing, so Lab will walk it owing to split vote.

UKIP won't get more than 2000 votes.

Edit: In that consituency!

Just now, HarryBosch said:

 

It's not 100% - 30 years service will get them about half their finishing salary for the rest of their days, usually with a continuing 50% to their spouse after death. Which is fantastic, and good luck to the ones who deserve it, I'm envious. 

I know. I meant 100% pension based on final salary.

Deserve it or get it? Plenty of deadwood in the public sector seeing out their days.

9 minutes ago, ChaddySmoker said:

It is fair because that is what they (and us the public) signed up for-we could have signed up too if that particular career had floated our boat.

Why does it have to be a race to the bottom? Get the Economy moving again and we could all be richer (and perhaps happier.)

That will never solve the public sector pension black hole. 

I agree changing things is harsh, but if it was [more] flawed initially... then it needs to be changed.

Most people, especially in the public sector, tend to earn their highest salaries in their last few years at work. How is it fair that they finish on 100% pension of their final salary when they've paid in considerably less over the forty years of service?

It leaves younger people picking up the bill and the pensions black hole getting larger and larger.

1 hour ago, singe said:

It is quite skill to be thought going both ways! 

I'm thinking more about the quotas for immigration, reducing benefits such as school meals, paring back pensions, lifting the ban on grammar schools, charging migrant workers and Int. students to use the NHS, fix hunting repealed, exiting the Customs union and Single Market. 

She has the room to manoeuvre, UKIP is a political non-entity so there's no barrier on the right. Labour are heading that way and have lurched further left so she can pick and choose popular policies. I'm good with a hint of bad.

As others have said, why should the Rooney kids get a free school meal and why should 'Sir' Alex get the winter fuel allowance?

Equally, why should someone on benefits have one or even two spare bedrooms? On both counts it's more than they are entitled to.

12 minutes ago, leeslover said:

I don't read much into this thing about individual policies being popular. Most people would like more spending on the police/NHS/army/pensions/roads and a few extra holidays and a tax cut but they can still see that all of them together isn't going to work out so well

What did the Romans do for us?

Was it Kusak the keeper who trained with us a few years back that people thought we had a genuine chance of signing?

3 hours ago, Oafc88 said:

 

In fairness the Tories aren't doing so great themselves!

Feels better.

In all honesty I've voted tactically to keep labour out of office in the past. This time I'll be voting Tory without a doubt.

With that said, this country NEEDS a strong opposition. That will not be delivered under an ultra left wing Corbyn or McDonnell. I'm happy watching the labour demise at the moment, but I voted for big T in 1997. 

Labour have to move away from the left after the election and they have to focus on the majority view. If they don't they'll be a protest party and nothing more. I reiterate, this government needs a strong and united opposition. All governments do.

2 hours ago, kowenicki said:

Total of the eventual cost of Labour pension plan from their manifesto.

 

Just the 300 billion of your British pounds.  

 

No biggie.... ?

 

Jackpot.

No doubt you've all seen the flowchart about being a Tory voter and a selfish bastard.

Well I'm surely you'll also have seen the one where labour are guaranteed to fuck up the economy.

1 minute ago, Crusoe said:

 

Well, we haven't entered many wars against people with nukes either.

What an excellent deterrent it is then!

29 minutes ago, Crusoe said:

Or, to put it another way, nobody's nuked Ireland either, so their policy of not having nuclear weapons has also been 100% effective, and a lot cheaper.

Ireland doesn't piss people off or generally enter wars.

1 minute ago, astottie said:

 

I see what you did there 

Little shit doesn't deserve the correction either.

Just now, NewBlue said:

 

If someone gave you the chance to have won the semi final of the FA Cup against United or win the Forest League Cup final what would you pick?

Semi Final.

I choose Adrain Littlejohn.

Just now, singe said:

I tend to agree, but there are no figures for the numbers of direct and indirect jobs and their cost. That has to be factored in.

I don't think we can afford to scrap trident. If we go down that route, we'll end up beholden to the least worst global super power.

Who knows what'll happen in the future? Putin can't go on for ever.

That said, on the labour side we're talking about a guy who held a minutes silences in honour of IRA terrorists.

Just now, singe said:

Trouble is, the cost of Brexit is astonomical too.

Doubt we can afford to nationalise and pay for Brexit. Especially a hard Brexit.

Yeah but we'll save billions by scrapping trident.