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6 hours ago, oafcshuck said:

 

So you think it's acceptable to just waste money?

Most people are missing the point of the inaccuracies in the article as well about him being ever present .... surely instead of p*ssing money up on a wall on a shirt they can get the articles correct first ..

Sorry I’ve got about a million more important things to worry about than a £40 shirt. I’ll buy it myself if it helps.

Meanwhile I’ll just support the club and not moan about things that are clearly not worth even talking about let alone moaning about them.

Just be happy that we’ve secured Hamer for another 2 years, after which we might be able to cash in on his potential like we have done with Edmundson.

COYB ️

16 minutes ago, OAFC1984 said:

 

FIFY

Thanks

Wow!! Some people really will moan about ANYTHING!!!

We’ve recently cashed in on one of our young players to the tune of around £700k, and now we’ve secured another one for another 2 years, by which time he may well improve similarly to Edmundson and we could get another decent fee, but we have to moan about the club wasting money on a shirt?!?! Unbelievable!!! 

There’s nothing like giving a bit of encouragement to one of our own, a current member of the squad may I add, who we want to do well this season don’t we?

He’s a foreign player who’s played a handful of games for us and is probably still trying to find his feet in English football.

Absolute shit our supporters at times!!

2 hours ago, wiseowl said:

Peter Clarke - the word inspirational is much over-used these days - but Clarkey, it's very apt for you. Despite age starting to catch up with you, you have given your all to the cause and remained stoic throughout some very difficult times with us (including being unceremoniously packed off to f - in tosspot Bury). Anyone with the slightest football brain would have ensured you stayed on in some capacity at Latics - in fact, they would have bent over backwards to ensure you stayed on.

 

The fact that hasn't happened shows a) not a lot is known about football at our club by the decision makers and b) perfectly the direction we are heading - and it's certainly not upwards.

 

Thank you for your massive contribution and the very best of luck wherever life takes you.

Couldn’t have put it better myself. Absolutely spot on!!

3 hours ago, Goal89 said:

Jesus christ. The absolute state of that parting  of ways with Clarke. He deserved more than that. Utter disgrace

1 hour ago, disjointed said:

Anyone else feel like the last rites are going to be delivered. 

The owner, his brother and anyone else involved in this particular decision have no class about them whatsoever. Zero, zilch!!!

i spoke to Clarke after the game on Saturday and he said that they hadn’t offered him a new contract but “there was still time”. The guy wanted to stay.

Absolutely stupid decision to release him. He should have had another playing contract offered to him with a view to moving onto the coaching staff. He’s got the badges, and what he could pass on to young defenders would be invaluable. 

Expectations for next season?

I’d say relegation. Squad decimated, player of the season (and club captain) released, most gifted player released, no doubt to be replaced with second raters. AL or ML interfering again. All adds up to disaster as far as I’m concerned. 

10 hours ago, astottie said:

Home attendance 4845. Is that the best of the season?  Imagine what it could have been without the boycott. 

Boycott? Was there a boycott? Biggest crowd of the season I would have thought. I know it was only £5 in, but it was also on telly. Anyway for those of us who did go I thought it was a cracking performance from Latics and a great game to watch. If we had a bit of luck right at the end it’s nothing more than we deserve. 

16 hours ago, Ritchierich said:

Wow, that’s actually quite revealing...confirms what I felt from the start, Scholes heart wasn’t really in it and frankly I just don’t see him as Manager material.

 

And that clown Macmanaman, who clearly had no idea of the detail.....”the results weren’t that bad” !!??  he tried to talk up the interference and Scholes corrected him saying it only happened once 

 

Just more entitled, over paid, Premier League and Champions League obsessed twats in a studio taking a momentary interest in the lower leagues because their mate had been involved for a few weeks 

 

Twats!!!

I agree totally with your 2nd and 3rd paragraphs, but how do you come to the conclusion that Scholes’ heart wasn’t really in it? I don’t get that at all.

9 hours ago, rudemedic said:

Some people spotted the asking price wasn't in proportion to the proper value of what was being sold. 

 

Bury was sold recently and they were clearly in a worse financial position than we were when Marco bought us. 

 

Football is a worldwide business and some people have spotted that buying a lower league club can prove to be better value than a more established side. 

Why are you calling him Marco? What have I missed?

38 minutes ago, jorvik_latic said:

 

Same old line trotted out by everyone. Someone would be interested. If not, we go bust quick rather than the death by a thousand cuts we’ve been subjected to for years. 

Go bust?!?! Oh right, that’s alright then.

15 minutes ago, jorvik_latic said:

 

He’d have to cut his losses. Someone could come in and make immediate revenue by selling new season tickets (pro-rated if it’s in the new season). 

Who would come in though? Corney really struggled to sell it when we was in League 1, we are in an even worse position now so I can’t see them queueing up to buy the club.

I don’t really see the long term benefit of boycotting to be honest.

If you take it to it’s ultimate conclusion then we get less of a crowd, therefore less encouragement for the players, less revenue coming through the turnstiles, all potentially adding up to poorer performances, less money for recruiting new players, a worse league position, possibly even relegation. If all that happened then AL would have a hell of a job trying to sell the club.

Each to their own of course, but I’ve renewed my season ticket. What else am I going to do on a Saturday afternoon? Go and watch Rochdale or Salford? No thanks, I’m a Latics fan. Have been since 1965, and I support the club no matter who’s in charge.

COYB ️

22 hours ago, OLDHAMADE said:

Big AL in the same room as the scottish Raging hulk, now that would be a spectacle 

22 hours ago, al_bro said:

Can you imagine Steve Evans v AL. Evans would be going purple with rage at any interference.

I think he wouldn’t even last as long as Scholes. No self respecting manager would put up with interference from the owner or his brother. They must be absolute idiots if they really are interfering.

1 hour ago, doctor evil said:

We could play Lang at striker. Branger on the right, nepo in the left. That also means either cog or Vera have someone to support them...

Yes I couldn’t disagree with that. :-)

9 minutes ago, deyres42 said:

Tis a funny one but nobody will convince me that the owner is insisting that he plays at left back.

Maybe it’s more a case of the owner - or his brother - insisting that Branger plays, therefore in order to accommodate Nepo (who’s definitely worth his place in the team IMO) then he has to play Nepo at left-back and push Branger further forward.

Personally I’d much prefer it if we played a proper left-back and had Nepo on the left wing and Branger on the bench. Nepo is our best crosser of a ball and he’s wasted at full back.

38 minutes ago, BP1960 said:

 

Huff and puff football isn't working in this land of the giants division.

I’ve never seen it work at Latics. We don’t get the ball forward anywhere near quickly enough and we don’t get the ball into the opposition box often enough. It’s not just Bunn though, it’s been like this for years!

It’s probably something that is taught on coaching courses, but we don’t have the quality of players to pull it off. 

Corney out!! Then we can finally get out of League 1 after 20 odd years.

Oh wait a minute .........

#shambles

#arethingsanybetter

2 hours ago, boundaryblue80 said:

 

What gets me is that when Bunn arrived it was all the "ohh, I know the club" etc. Well know that we'd mostly prefer to see us play a 4-4-2, especially when we've got players more likely to do better in it. Couple that with the fact he played in a 4-4-2 most of his career and you'd think he'd want to try and get us playing with wingers with FB's interlinking.

 

He's gone from playing 3 upfront at home which doesn't work (had to change it in the 3-3 draw) to 3 at the back. The 3 upfront previously was seeing strikers playing LF/RF and pushed out wide miles away from O Grady in the middle and asking them to cross the ball in. On Saturday, the 2 upfront were buggered coz we were asking full backs to play as wing backs which led to us having no width at all. And led to Miller having to go out wide and try and make magic happen and little else in the middle.

 

I know he probably thinks this is modern day styled football but I'd rather he tried a proper 4-4-2 and keep Surridge as close to OG/Miller (whichever plays) as possible. Engone and Nepu have shown they can run the wings and with some support from the FB's the system has more chance of working than any 3 at the back or up top.

Can’t disagree with any of this.

29 minutes ago, deyres42 said:

If Saturday has taught us anything it is that playing 3 centre backs should never be attempted again and we should try to forget it ever happened.

Couldn’t agree more. Sheridan tried it a few times last season as well, including the debacle at Rotherham. Stick to 4-4-2. Or possibly 4-3-1-2 if it’s to play José just behind the front two.

1 minute ago, JoeP said:

 

It might come as a surprise to some, but occasionally the manager knows better than the fans. There's clearly a fitness issue with Jose, rather than Bunn just "not fancying him". Think the 3-5-2 formation might have been used to compliment Baxter and, yes, it failed.

 

One positive from yesterday could be that we can put to bed the "Why isn't Jose starting?" saga. For whatever reason, he's not ready to start. 

 

What a player to have come off the bench to make things happen in close games for the last twenty odd minutes..

The formation failed miserably and yes of course the manager knows better than the fans, but pretty much everyone could see that it wasn’t working yesterday, it made it all the more irritating and mystifying that he didn’t change things a lot quicker than he did. Carlisle’s first goal came as no surprise, they were easily the better team in the first 20-30 mins, part of the reason for that was that we didn’t seem to have a clue what we were doing at the back. In my opinion he should have reverted to 4-4-2 midway through the first half, he left it far far too late.

A few observations.....

FB was irritated in both his pre and post Carlisle interviews when it was mentioned that the goals had dried up somewhat.

He was quick to remind us that the dry spell has only been for two games, plus we have only conceded one goal away this season and scored 16 goals in 10 games (it was actually 15 in 11 games).

There’s nothing wrong with looking at the positives of course, but you can always look at things from different angles. For instance 9 of our goals have come in 3 games (Macclesfield, Grimsby and Colchester) so effectively we’ve scored 6 in 8 games, four of those matches we haven’t scored at all.

He seems to be getting a bit prickly if the questions or observations are in any way construed as negative by him.

I thought that the Carlisle performance was similar to the Colchester one. The defending was terrible in both games, 5 of the 6 goals conceded were purely down to the defending. The exception being the 3rd Carlisle goal, the forward was just too good and scored a very skilful goal.

Both matches showed us doing a lot of huffing and puffing with very little end product, something that we’ve seen too much of at Boundary Park in recent years.

Meaningless passing between the goalkeeper and defenders, as well as the midfield players. We end up putting ourselves under pressure when we are the ones in possession.

We need to get the ball forward much much quicker and get the ball into the opposition penalty area quicker.

We sometimes have a lot of possession but do very little with it, we don’t work the opposition goalkeepers anywhere near enough.

Gardner tries his best every game and is the most comfortable player on the ball apart from Baxter, but he is so one footed it’s untrue! Yesterday he got to the byeline down the left but had to cross it with the outside of his right foot. Surely if he’s going to do runs like that it should be down the right hand side?

The 3-5-2 formation was a disaster and I could not understand why he didn’t change it much earlier than he did. At least when they play 4-4-2 they do look like each player knows what they should be doing, although that doesn’t explain the Colchester performance.

I was really looking forward to seeing Surridge running at Gerrard and turning him inside out, but I don’t remember seeing him run at him once! Surely that would be discussed in the days leading up to the match?

The one thing where I do think he’s got it right is with José. I was one of those crying out for Baxter to start but yesterday he was virtually anonymous. Maybe Bunn was right when he’s said that he’s better off coming on in the second half and unpicking a tiring defence.

Oh and why isn’t Tom Hamer getting a look in? He’s young, fit, quick, and his long throw-in’s can surely be utilised?

I’m aware that this post is sounding a bit negative and i’m usually a ‘glass half full’ supporter when it comes to Latics.

I still am, and we can get going again after this run of 3 points from a possible 12, but we’ve got to start being more positive both at home and away.

COYB ️

24 minutes ago, Lee Sinnott said:

He was great today. Our captain could learn a lot from his display against a striker lauded on Twitter by some as "the best striker in the League..."

How could our captain learn from him??

Gerrard had a good, steady game today, but Clarke is - and has been - a much more consistent performer over the years than Gerrard. I don’t think he has anything to learn from him. I think our tactics made it easy for Gerrard though. Surridge never ran at him or turned him once. 

12 minutes ago, deyres42 said:

Where does he play if/when he achieves this much talked about full fitness?

I think he could play just behind the front two. Obviously one of the wide players would have to be sacrificed because we still need Missilou and Gardner in the middle.

I’m like a lot of other people on here, I can’t understand why José isn’t starting more games. If it was purely down to match fitness then why has he started two games already, plus he’s already completed one 90 minutes, surely he can at least do 45 minutes comfortably so why wasn’t he brought on at half time? He only came on when we were 2-0 down and he had an immediate impact.

I thought Gardner was good yesterday. Apart from Baxter he is by far our most comfortable player on the ball, in my opinion though he lacks the creativity that Baxter provides and that’s where we suffer as a team. He played a cracking ball over the top for Taylor for the first goal but generally he doesn’t play the killer incisive pass to open up a defence, whereas Baxter has got the capability to do just that, plus José rarely wastes a pass meaning we keep possession longer.

Gardner and Baxter together look much better.

I thought we did great to keep going till the end yesterday and deserved a draw but before that we did a lot of huffing and puffing with no end result. I can’t believe the match stats saying that we had 18 shots. I must have missed most of them!

Onwards and upwards though, we are doing pretty well on the whole. Hopefully we will get even better, especially if Baxter can get more game time.