doctor evil

It's something thats crept in to keep fans in the dark about finances, what's to hide is my question?

Why would you want to reveal to your competition how much you are willing to let players go for?

I'd imagine every time you make that point you assume they don't want to be here.

 

You haven't got a clue whether Coleman wanted to stay and remain number 1 or not.

So you think he'd have chosen to remain at a club that just avoided relegation to league 2, that have no manager and no certainty he'd be number 1 next season.

Undisclosed again, is there something the fans shouldn't know? My belief and trust in the current board is at an all time low.

Im going to set you a task BP1960. Look at all transfers in england in the last 5 years and come back with what percentage of those are undisclosed.

I'm going to make the same point i do every time someone leaves. There's no point keeping someone who doesn't want to be here, especially if you can get a bit of dosh too.

Most of it in the division below the one Coleman has begun at, in a far poorer team. Not to say there's that much of a difference, but he's also a couple of years younger.

 

Southend rejected a £1m bid for their young number 1. You could get ours for a tenth of the price. If the club are so confident Coleman is going to become something special maybe they should stand firm and let him accrue value here

 

Never gonna happen, like...

He's only got a year left on his contract though........

So for clarity we have;

 

No Manager

No goalkeeper

No goalkeeping coach (not needed due to above)

5 senior pros signed for next season.......3 of which couldn't get in the starting line up last season in a team that finished 17th

An invisible owner

An incompetent Board

 

We'll be fine

2 months........

I agree the does have to be paid for. However, if the club doesn't even own the stand and are only seeing a very small percentage of the profits from it, then :censored:ing pay for it out of your own money Corney and leave the club out of it. Why should we pay for something that isn't even ours?!

I believe we receive the matchday income from the stand (I remember that being said), the rest will probably go to paying off various debts. Both of which are positive for the club, no?

It might give some fans back a sense of belonging.

 

The Trust isn't fit for purpose in my opinion.

Wouldn't it be better to improve the trust rather than set up a rival initiative.

For all the suggestions and good intentions on here it doesn't matter a jot as we are a one man band the real problem is that one man struggles to play the triangle.

 

An Independent Supporters Association would come in handy when we have the world's press on our doorstep a la Ched, when we can give a more rounded view of our fans feelings rather than the self appointed spokesman's one who tends to speak for the lot of us.

 

As the numbers dwindle year in on year it's even more difficult to get any feeling or point across to a man who frankly doesn't give a :censored:, the only way you could get him to change his tact is through an active boycott of BP and the OEC, but then we'd be cutting or noses off to spite our faces.

 

For me it's turned into a really :censored: situation with no real hope of it getting better.

I don't understand what this independent supporters association would achieve.

You don't bun off traditions like Mouldy Old Dough. Imagine if Everton got rid of Z Cars.

 

You could probably get it back easily enough but it's obviously deeper than that. Think it's verging on impossible to truly get behind some of the teams of the past few seasons. The constant carousel and the standard erodes your will. The Shez side at the back end of last season felt genuine though, which is why the club has lost more than just a good manager.

 

The general point is at the heart of the protests. It's not the finance, it's the feeling of detachment this regime is creating. It's not right and hasn't been for a few years. That's what's draining the club as much as the lack of investment.

I agree about the revolving door point but its so hard to keep most of a team together these days. The best plays will be poached by bigger clubs (financially and in stature) who we simply can't compete with. Also getting players to sign long contracts is harder than you'd think. I imagine the fact we've had 50 managers in the last few years hasn't helped but it will be mostly the same across this division (and probably league 2).

You don't need consensus but the inability of the score board funding initiative to get above 20k shows just how much the fans feel disconnected from its owners and the club. A top down initiative imposed on the fans proclaiming to be 'owned by the fans'.

A. Isn't it at 22k.

B. Whilst im sure they hoped for more than 22k, thats still a decent effort IMO.

C. It wasn't imposed on the fans. A questionnaire was sent out asking which sort of things fans would be interested in improving.

D. Im sure i read the funds would be controlled by the trust.

The absence of any unity amongst fans is clearly the stumbling block to fans having any real infuence over the club even in the absence of outright ownership. Not enough fans are prepared to pull together towards a common cause.

 

Fan ownership may not be a panacea but the fans of this club need to have a greater influence over its future. Fans need to pull together and critically need a leader to set the tone and agenda.

 

The breakdown in relationship between fans and the club is as much the fans as the clubs fault. The club gets no clear direction as to how the fans feel. They are totally fragmented and from my observation act independently and probably give contradicting opinions to the club. Misguided endeavours like the failed score board fund result from this.

You're never going to get a clear agreement amongst supporters except on a very broad basis. Not everyone is going to feel the need for a scoreboard, not everyone will think we should bring back a reserve team etc etc.... Anyway isn't that what the trust is for, everyone turns up at meetings where things are discussed before a general consensus is made. That is then taken forward by the trust rep on the board.

Amended im sorry this hurt you so much

Stop talking bollocks, cuts the budget year on year and has brain washed our fan base into thinking 17th is some sort of achievement, all this backing managers is bull:censored:, he's done the absolute bare minimum with regards the playing staff and managed by the skin of his teeth to get away with it - so far.

Take your own advise pal...

I don't understand how anyone can say Kelly shouldn't have applied. Nothing wrong with being (very) ambitious. He was just lucky he ran into boardroom of buffoonery.

Yes I will agree to that- in the state we're in i would have much rather seen 26k gone into playershare not a scoreboard no one wants.

????? - The people who have raised 26k want one.....

Why has Sky stopped showing the odds? Is this what you men by suspended? - Yes.

Honestly, i don't have a clue. Does it mean a new manager is imminent? Probably not, Markets can be suspended for many reasons (updated info, large size or volume of bet, etc etc....)

Biggest stat on this (IMO) 20% of fans 'dont care given up'

That is massive.

Emotive response.

Have fun watching us like we were under kelly and dunn getting smashed for 5 whilst saying nothing

If we start losing every match 5-0 next year maybe i might start bringing some groceries along with me, until then im going to wait to see who we appoint as manager and who we sign and be as optimistic as possible because that's so much better than being a negative sod......

Not quite charlton or blackpool standards but something needs to happen rather than moaning on a forum year on year

 

Eggs on the pitch first pre season friendly of the season.....

 

Rotten

 

Either that or we go back to the sit downs on the pitch

 

Get out of our club!!!!

Have fun with that one....

I'd go for a current member of staff, Masterchef Simon Wood.

For starters he would meat our requirements, can cook up something out of nothing and wouldn't serve up a load of balony. My only concern is he might move on after 6 months with bigger fish to fry.

He'd sure motivate them, wouldn't be afraid to give them a good roasting....

#BringBackWarnock

It'd be interesting.....

I think the underlying reason will be that the budget for this coming season is a lot less than Shez was promised when he jumped ship from Newport.

Hence his reason to leave and the desperate money raising consequences of the S/T offer has now come back to bit us.

And how the hell can anyone be 'Corney Out' when there isn't an alternative......

Fan ownership won't work for us, we've been through this before......