Longlostfan

Lots of possible questions but I think they will all show the same shades of grey. Lots of if this then that....

Minimum number of points at 10/15 games?  for me 15 at10, 23 at15

Will he get us promoted this year? doubt it

If he gets x points in 10/15 games how much more time does that give him? probably until the next run of 3 without a win

Personally I don't think he is the man to get the best from the squad. There are also questions to asked about recruitment. I'd be amazed if he got us promoted and then challenging in league 2 the following season.

I can understand those who would cut him some slack- poor refereeing, Fondop being thick, injuries etc but it seems he is in a deep hole. Win the next two then a bit less pressure, lose the two after that its all back, leaving aside the possibility of losing the first two.

Sustained improvement with >1.5 points per game over a rolling 5 game cycle would be the measure for me with a bit of drive and attacking intent in most games.

Stitch? Didn't he put a hat full past us when we lost to Leeds 5 or 6 nil?

2 hours ago, Bobledgersheart said:

It never seemed to work out well

Stevie Taylor?

@astottie that's not to say we aren't interested in your observations.

On 8/29/2023 at 7:35 PM, astottie said:

Cusani scored twice and I was impressed with him.

On your travels if you find a rb/rwb and maybe a manger let us know.

I think we may have enough strikers if someone knew how to use them or get the ball to them.

I doubt he will be given his marching orders today.

Plenty wanted Reid and Fondop.

After Fondop's first booking my thought was he is off at HT, maybe DU thought the same...

Think it is harsh to expect DU to pull him  after two minutes.

However it is a results business. Less than one point a game is relegation form.

Rude said earlier half a season to balance things out but there are no great teams in this division.

 10 games was my mark but expecting 15 points. Three wins and a draw from the next 4 anyone?

7 minutes ago, Careca9 said:

What a comment.

wasn't it more a case of implying we had a good day because we took a point off the favourites?

it is expected to come across better than 'they weren't up to much but we had nothing and were lucky to sneak a point'

1 minute ago, Lags said:

The same long term project DU was sold?

that's a fair point Lags,- don't think there is really long term in football its all about the near term.

I feel it is a bit different to when he was here previously. Then everything was short term. Now there is a developing supporting infrastructure. You can imagine Frank has a vision of 'the Oldham way' and that future management and staff recruitment will be focused on people who fit that vision. (I'd like that to include players too but I'm not sure I see that yet)

Still will be results driven though perhaps with a little more time. I accept the clock is ticking for DU unless he delivers clear consistent improvement.

Pete Wild coming back? I'm sure some here know his personal circumstances but if I said to the Mrs I was going to have another crack at a place that sacked me/ made me ill it would be hard sell no mater how much I wanted it. I think it will need more than a payday but I've never spoken to the guy so its just an opinion on a forum.

7 hours ago, Monty Burns said:

was it bad?

I think many of us appreciate your passion and understand ( a bit) of your personality.

RHB was trying to be helpful about the situation down there and chatting about players.

Your -shall we say 'unfiltered' responses- could easily have been seen as needlessly aggressive.

8 hours ago, Rootshallbloke said:

Well, that's me told

Don't take it too personally RHB. Many of us appreciate local insight.

Monty is a little unusual and perhaps doesn't moderate everything he types. I'd been on here a while before I understood a single one of his posts. Now I sometimes worry that I do understand some of them.

1 minute ago, Monty Burns said:

lve realised we don't actually need

to be fair this 'we've pretty much got a team and will pick up the last piece of the jigsaw when its right' is so different from 'the first match is next week and we have 4 strangers and two kids signed so let's panic' that it does take some getting used to.

19 hours ago, mick26 said:

No not seen him for ages.

Cheers Mick,

I guess he will appear as ' trialist A' in someone else's friendlies then.

Rooney amongst them?

I seem to remember gates dropping from about 6k to just over 3k when Jimmy F was sacked.

Had been on a gradual decline since promotion to division 2.

It was a slow climb back to a booming boundary park.

41 minutes ago, Magic Mikey said:

This proliferation of puns ales me.

Don't need to bitter about it Mikey

1-Norman,                                      13 Hudson,                                    24    

2                                                      14                                                  25-Reid

3-Kitching                                      15                                                   26

4-Hogan                                         16                                                   27-Couto

5-Hobson                                       17

6-Shelton                                        18-Tollit

7-Willoughby                                  19

8-Lundstram*                                 20-Hope

9-Fondop                                       21-Sutton

10-Nuttall                                       22

11-Ward                                          23

12-                                                  24                                            *Lundstram 8 on the club site- but so is Gardener

Thanks Dick,

perhaps their under one roof claim only applies to the kit provided for first teams and their replicas etc are outsourced.

Unlike many other bespoke teamwear brands, every step of our production process is done under one roof - this cuts manufacturing lead times - and means we have the capability to manufacture bespoke kits within 21 days

Shame- be nice to support some UK manufacturing

On 6/23/2023 at 8:08 AM, LaticsPete said:

Hope & Glory have supplied them with a kit. 

Their website suggests their kits are made in house in Royton.

Anyone know if their tee shirts and hoodys are made there too?

2 hours ago, ShireBlue said:

but they weren’t officially under the club.

that's my impression from the article on the club website

The Girl’s & Women’s club operates as a separate entity to Oldham Athletic but work closely in partnership to represent Girls and Women playing football under the club name and badge, representing Oldham Athletic every time they play!  

The CEO quote does suggest that there will be an open age team fully associated with the club in time.

Probably depends on funding. IIRC Yovil had a successful women's team in the precurser to the wsl but on small crowds had no chance once the big teams started splashing the cash.

14 hours ago, pcassist said:

Harry Vaughan signs new 3x year contract with Hull + 12 months option.

Good on the lad.

Hopefully means when he gets picked up by the greedy league he is still under contract and so goes for a big fee.

So I think we are saying he is under contract to the end of June and the club could enforce the original option.

It appears his agent thinks he is worth much more.

His agent needs to earn his money- find him a new club  on more money after the option expires but he can't sign until after the option exercise date.

I'm sure there will be some clubs doing the annual 'crap I need a new squad in a month' dance we are so familiar with from seasons past. I'm less sure they will be throwing good money around.

If he signs before end of June can we exercise the option and demand a fee? Or do we just say good riddance?

Either way I'd agree with the posters above- we only want players who are committed.

3 hours ago, rudemedic said:

complexities have to be accounted for.

Rude is right.

There are a surprising number of constraints beyond the obvious 'close by clubs at home on the same day'. Clubs can be 'paired' with other clubs on request so that only one of them is at home. This can be for practical reasons eg they share stewards, or maybe even grounds from time to time. I think there are examples of 'paired clubs' where the smaller club is hoping to pick up fans from the better supported team when the better supported team is away. The pairs can be daisy chained so club A might be asked to be paired with club B who have asked to be paired with Club C etc.

I understand there is an attempt to minimize travel over the Christmas break although it might not feel like that if you are the closest club in the league to Plymouth, Carlisle or Norwich etc

I think there is also a Transport Police review looking at flows of fans at key stations

The leagues have different numbers of games and there are international breaks etc

You could write a programme to do this but you would have to make significant changes each year once the playoffs were decided.

1 hour ago, LaticsPete said:

I looked at four programmes of matches that Latics played at Maine Road ,not against City, for a recent article. One was the Dec 19th December 1949 FA Cup 2nd 2nd Replay v Crewe. First match had been 1-1 at Gresty Road, the replay goalless. Anyway, in what was Latics’ fourth match in nine days, the teams met again , at Maine Road on a Monday afternoon.

Relevance to this thread? I’ll transfer a bit of what I wrote about the programme.

 

At just 2d for 8pp there is a decent amount of reading inside, not least a full-page review of the first replay at Boundary Park. Apparently,  the pitch was heavy and there was a “downpour of rain”. In Oldham? Surely not. Anyway the game and extra time led to soaked kit, heavy cotton in that era, and Latics’ players went through 24 jerseys and 26 pairs of shorts in the match, changing on the pitch “scorning any cover at all”.

 

Eye-openers for the nearly 12000 at BP that day….

Anyway, Latics won the game at Maine Road 3-0 to earn a glamorous 3rd Round home match v Newcastle.

 

The four matches at Maine Road? The other three are ones that many of us ( at least those over 60) will have been at .

not 60 but Northwich Victoria FA Cup 4th round- switched from their place and the 1990 semifinals.

1 hour ago, Monty Burns said:

l fight with the underdog.

That's not very nice. She hasn't posted a lot recently I wonder are you the reason?

2 hours ago, Lukers1 said:

Letting go of Warhurst and Redfearn was criminal.

I seem to recall Warhurst was agitating for a move- could be wrong though it was half a lifetime ago.

Redfearn I agree- workrate and goals from outside the box very positive. I don't recall MacDonald doing a great deal.