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Sparkleking

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  1. 15 minutes ago, TheBigDog said:

    Gary Birtles joined Forest in 1982 - that’s 42 years ago!

    It was a different time and things in football have changed dramatically since then…

     

    Sadly your argument is outdated and no longer valid

    - time to get real methinks 🤔

     

    Actually 1976 so 48 years ago.  He did sign again for Forest in 1982 after being at Man Utd for a couple of years.

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  2. I've just finished reading Tony Bugby's Latics book.  We had the goalkeeper Eddie Hopkinson on our books and he played 3 times in 1951/52.  That summer he was out of contract and the club "forgot" to offer him a new one so thinking he wasn't wanted he signed for Bolton.  He went on to be their record appearance holder and play 14 times for England.  File under great Latics cock ups.

  3. I've just finished reading Tony Bugby's Latics book.  We had the goalkeeper Eddie Hopkinson on our books and he played 3 times in 1951/52.  That summer he was out of contract and the club "forgot" to offer him a new one so thinking he wasn't wanted he signed for Bolton.  He went on to be their record appearance holder and play 14 times for England.  File under great Latics cock ups.

  4. 2 hours ago, stargazer said:

    I don't think TNT will be in any rush to show us again after that snoozefest. No goals from open play in 3 games , 2 at home and 2 against teams in the bottom 4 , is little short of pathetic. It looks to me the problem is the very defensive formation and the failure of midfield to create chances or dominate possession . Abandon the 5 at the back , and go to 4-4-2 . The division is terrible , Boreham Wood in 2nd haven't won in 5 ! I think the defence is ok , they appear to me to get caught a  bit flat footed when trying to play offside. I think he should have brought Hammond on yesterday .  The  previous manager would have been tore to shreds for the last 2 inept displays , time to go the attack ,and try to win 4-2 , 3-2 . My daughter looked absolutely gutted after yesterdays display , and is normally very upbeat about the team.  Let's succeed or fail going for it , not this drivel.

    If you include the Hendon match it is no goals from open play in 4 games.

  5. 14 minutes ago, Norewgian Gunnar said:

    If players go on loan and earn less do the club owning the player not make up the balance of contracted salary. If so we would still be saving money

    If a player goes on loan he still receives his full salary from the parent club; it's a contract of employment.  The parent club will receive a contribution (full or partial) from the borrowing club.

  6. 2 hours ago, JoeP said:

    Jeered off. 

     

    Missed two chances. 

     

    Anonymous otherwise.

     

    Looks like he doesn't want to be here. Any of our other strikers would have more hunger. 

     

    I'm not a fan... 

     

     

    I would suggest that Norwood is the least of our problems.

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  7. 6 hours ago, Summerdeep said:

     

    The last game I went to at Boundary Park was an FA Cup tie against Tranmere in, I think, 1993. We were in the Premier League and they were in the next division down (League 1? Championship?). Anyway, they outplayed us, with John Aldridge scoring twice from the penalty spot and later being sent off, though we rather luckily came back to get a draw.

     

    I couldn't get over just how bloody awful the experience of being in an all-seated area was though (the Chaddy End, of all places), not to mention having had to pay about five times the entry fee compared to my previous visit in the late 1980s. I've never been back since, and will never do so if required to sit down to watch a football match.

     

    Last attended a Latics fixture at Brentford in 2005. That was bloody awful as well, but only because of the abysmal performance of the team (lost 0-2). At least it was possible to stand on the terracing behind the goal....

    It wasn't all seater when we were in the Premier League, you could still stand in the paddocks.

  8. 16 hours ago, Summerdeep said:

    ^ 'Luck' is a factor that can be at least as important as coaching abilty and management skills in some situations. If you go all the way back to Frizzell, he almost didn't become our manager, and where would we have gone from there? 

     

    Two of his first three home games early in 1970 were against Bradford PA and Lincoln. Bradford were rock bottom in Div 4 and hadn't won an away game for three years, but we struggled to create more than a few half-chances against them and they had two goals disallowed for offside, and we all know how marginal many of those decisions can be (final result 0-0). In the Lincoln game we only scraped a point with an equaliser in the third or fourth minute of injury time. If we'd lost those games I don't think Frizzell woud've lasted much longer as caretaker manager.

     

    In any event, the man the club wanted as manager was Frank Lord, who was coaching in South Africa at the time. The board had already agreed terms with him and offered him the job, but for some reason he didn't show up to sign his contract. If Lord had got onto the plane that day in Cape Town, it would have been all over for Frizzell. I don't think we missed out on much with Lord - I remember him briefly turning up as caretaker manager of Preston in the 1972-73 season, but other than that he seems to have made no impact on the managerial scene.

     

    Frizzell capitalized on the situation by guiding the side to their first away win in six months (2-0 at Exeter), and seven days later to a 1-0 win against league leaders and champions-elect Chesterfield, which was enough to persuade the board to offer him the job after the rebuff from Lord.

     

    We also almost didn't get Royle as John Wile was the board's first choice to replace Jimmy Frizzell.

  9. Personally I don't get the "must have experience at this level" rhetoric.  Our two most successful managers in living memory, Jimmy Frizzell and Joe Royle, had no experience of managing at any level.  Full stop.  To counter my own argument I would also add that some of our worst managers (hello David Unsworth) had no experience, and it showed.  So yes, experience is an advantage but I'm not sure it's the be all and end all.  Experienced managers can (and do) fail, and rookie managers can (and do fail).  Just depends on the manager involved.

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