latic12345

It's not snowing at the moment.

It is now and it's absolutely baltic. No gillet and scarf could keep you warm in that weather!!!

I'm still not sure it makes much of a difference. With the debt to TTA, there is no way for them to write it off, with a bank loan it's feasable that they might try to drop it by stopping paying the bills and letting the club going into admin. Not that I think they have any intention of doing such a thing, it certainly wouldn't make sense to have the ground owned by the same company as the club if they had that in mind.

As a back-up to this, banks tend to insert 'payback on request' Ts & Cs. Therefore, in theory, a bank loan is just as instantly repayable should it request so. The advantage the club has of using TTA is that (as I have said above) the club doesn't (legally) have any assets and therefore would struggle to gain loans to the extent that it currently has from a financial institution.

Just a guess but it wouldn't surprise me if:

1. The company that owns the land owns the club.

2. Finance from TTA (if borrowed from a bank) is loaned by the company that owns the club and charged against the land.

3. The company that owns the club finances the losses of the football club through an inter-company agreement between companies in the same group.

4. In order for this to be viable the club (and potentially other companies) provide this said parent company with an income so it can continue as a going concern.

Just a thought mind...

It's interesting the number of people who think Oldham Athletic 2004 Ltd own Boundary Park. My understanding of the situation is slightly different. There is a company called something like Sports Vehicle Holdings Ltd that own Boundary Park. There is Oldham Athletic 2004 Ltd. These two companies have mutual shareholders i.e. the same people who own Latics own the land. This is not the same as Latics owning the land.

I'm quite sure Simon Corney let this slip at a fans meeting a few years back...

Speak for yourself about Norwich, me, Mr and Mrs Tulsehill came home half an hour early. Granted it was full of gruesome chavs and an "incident" nearly occured until we managed to get through to first class.

He was a bit of a c**k though so it would have been a fully justified incident...

You're not even going to get changed? Scruff.

Mate, black tie dress code for the day I heard. I'll see you there in my (newly found) DJ...

I'll sort a Thermos... or we could just get to the Greyhound very very early so we have an adequate beer jacket. Then again it's Tranmere and watching us sober is bad enough. Watching us get beat by Tranmere sober is unthinkable!!!

Re: Wycombe. I may head up. All depends on how I feel after covering a bit of Katie Perry on Friday night :-)

Working on the assumption that most of us aren't daft enough to go to Wycombe, who's heading back to the Motherland for the Boxing Day clash of the tight uns?

I shall be there... adidas tracksuit and curly wig day I reckon...

Good Team.

 

Mine Would Be

 

Pogs

Eardley Gregan Hill Armstrong

Johnson McDonald Wellens Eyres

Porter Clark

 

Clark on loan from sheff wednesday

 

if we are going off full time latics players then vernon gets in instead of clark

Pogs

Hill Hall Armstrong

Eardley Murray Mini Shez Wellens Eyres

Wijnhard Killen

With that front two fit and interested, they would score 40+ goals between them. Mini Shez would hold in midfield allowing Murray and Wellens to go forward. With That back 3 Pogs would look good and Eardley could only be replaced by an on form and fit Josh Low *looks for cover*

The difference is that they were known as "London Boroughs" before the local government reorganisation which created the Greater London Council and "Greater Manchester". They ae still known as London Boroughs, whereas the Boroughs that used to form the Greater Manchester County for that short period are not known as Greter Manchester Boroughs.

I think you miss the point here Terry. I first and foremost think of Putney as London in the same way I think of Oldham / Ashton / Stalybridge / Stockport as Manchester. I then think of the town as second. Therefore, for me, in reality (regardless of legal classification), there is very little difference...

I hate you.

At least you're not indifferent

If I came from Royston Vasey I might say I was a Manc as well.

That's probably fair. Some of the locals do have upturned noses and lean when they walk. It's the fact there's a town nearby with 27,000 people, 4 faces and 2 surnames that worries me.

Ooooooh, I'm looking forward to my next OASIS trip. I knew there was a reason I bought that machete off ebay...

To be fair, I'm with Josh on this one and tell people I'm from Manchester all the time. I don't see too much of a difference. You wouldn't argue if someone said Putney / Clapham are in London yet are similar distances from the centre.

In summary, you don't need to wait til the next OASIS outing, you can bring it along tonight ;)

He also extended an invitation to anyone wanting to make an appoinment with him at the club to run through the REAL financial figures (as opposed to some of the rubbish that gets talked about) then he would be happy to do so.

Really? This is an interesting one as financial figures can be spun in any way depending on how you charge liabilities, how you leverage finance etc. It's very easy for people to hold assets and debt off balance sheets etc etc. I would be surprised if he will reveal these in an absolute way. I reckon you are more likely to see a set of accounts, based on a host of assumptions that represent the position of the company at a point in time. I would be amazed if you get anything else...

Like this 'fact' that Dale Stephens played. I'm still unconvinced...

You're face when you realised you had been at (but still missed) Dale Stephens first Latics start was very memorable.

Cracking day on Saturday mate... I may even be convinced by Wycombe*

*What I post on here is by no means binding

Gregan by far. His applauding of the fans at the end and the reciprocation from the stand was tremendous. The only Latics player to be clapped off by every fan

Then you can have your wicked way with me.

It's been a while - looking forward to it

It's pleasing to see that other people are aware of Alex's usual tricks. believe my lies

Corrected it for you....

Alas no mate. Lots going on which has highjacked my weekends and bank balance for the moment.

 

Will be making a boozing return for the festivities though. Will be at Exeter at home and Wycombe away....

There for the young Americans?!?! You and Ryan should be a treat ;)

Are you driving to Wycombe or by train?

Foxes away last year was the last. This time we should have a football music round (much to the anger of all those non-football types around us on the train) which I'm doing right now.

 

Several pictures rounds

Norwich City round (big clue what to swat up on)

and maybe a few more.

It certainly was Foxes away, the day that a good few of us (well me predominantly) got distracted by a rather cute blonde sat at the same table. The quiz at that point came second ;)

I could've sworn it was BigFin...

After claiming I dragged you out into Soho after the game, I wouldn't like to trust your memory of that night....

Na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na Blackman!

(Courtesy of BigfinLatic/Snookmeister/latic12345- argue amongst yourselves for royalties.)

As bad as it is, I'm laying claim to this one - Brentford beer garden a good few hours after the end of the game....

Now booked on the 10am .................... ah well just have to have a few pints less or I'm thinking of asking for a £1 entry fee for the quiz

 

Good thing is, if I do actually miss the 10am ...........

Always good to have back up

D'oh!!!

Mine or yours?

can I ask you how many home games you get to a season?

Well for the past two seasons I have lived in South West London and last year made 34 games in total (15 home and 19 away), maintaining my season ticket.

This season I have been to 4 and only 1 at Boundary Park. Partially due to the lacklustre feel (it takes a full weekend out for any home game and costs £900 to attend 15 home games - the break even point of a ST - so doesnt feel worth it to me right now) and partially due to being so busy during pre-season and the early part of this season meaning that I failed to keep track of who was in and out and don't feel quite the same amount of loyalty and with it.

I didnt post my reasons for a reaction more because it sums up how I feel at the moment. If you would like to disagree, thats ok. I think its a perfectly plausible reason for not attending. I am part of the "I dont find it as fun anymore" along with many on this messageboard and don't see a problem with letting people know that.

It's midweek and it's too far.

I'm working in Birmingham at the moment. It's really close and accessible for me but....

At the risk of abuse: it's cold, wet and frankly only entertaining if 3 sheets to the wind. This can't happen on a school night so I won't be there. £20 well saved....

Trains are being booked as we speak for the 10.30am out of Liverpool Street (good chance I'll make it in time only living down the road) coming back at 6.30pm ......... £18 chip as chips.

 

As normal on the longer away trips .... your quiz master (me) will be holding a quiz (got a colour copier at work now so should be good) and this time there will be prizes.

 

It'll be good to see a few new faces on this one ..........

You've given yourself back up then... I thought everyone was booked on the 10am outbound. Already hedging your bets ;)

I was at Twickenham last saturday for the sole drab England win of the Autumn Internationals and someone in front of me had a digital SLR and telescopic lens. Noone batted an eyelid.