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  1. 35 minutes ago, yarddog73 said:

    Unsurprisingly some people struggling with a simple Yes or No answer, I'm happy for people to put Yes if they want to give Unsworth more time.

     

     

    And so giving the opportunity to critique the “yes” responses as not really being yes. I think the “result “ will be even more meaningless as a consequence.

    Btw When is the cut off point? Is this a right now question or after another game or week or month? 

  2. The Forgotten Brothers
    Ian Davidson
    Blue Army Published 2022 
    Hardback 256pp £20


    Nearly 1200 appearances and 697 goals make the impact of Jack and Arthur Rowley on English football brightly apparent from the statistics alone. That was just tier playing career: as Managers they clocked up an even greater number of matches. The two men from Wolverhampton were s tars at every level of domestic football for almost thirty years, yet, other than in and around their former clubs and localities, are rarely mentioned nowadays. 
    They weren’t the only brothers in the family, eldest son Albert was regarded as the most talented of the three but an accident as a teenager damaged both knees beyond repair. Jack was next, born in 1918, and his football career started at age 17 as an amateur with his hometown club although a hernia operation led to him being let go to Bournemouth. It was from there that he was spotted by the owner of Manchester United, who had a property in the seaside town, and it was at United that he made his name. Like many players of the period, the Second World War robbed Jack of seasons after becoming an established Div 1 player, but his Army service in the South Staffs regiment (including Normandy in 1944 and being wounded) did allow for matches whilst on leave, a total of 78 wartime games and 101 goals. It was after demobilisation that Jack's career really took off. From then until 1955, “The Hammer” as he was known because of his power, he dominated scoring charts both locally and nationally.  Winner of an FAC Cup final with United in 1948, scoring twice, he 211 goals for them in 424 matches, and this is before League Cup or European competitions were around. Another 80 matches and 27 goals for Plymouth and Bournemouth contributed to a magnificent playing career. His managerial career took him to Plymouth Argyle, Bradford Park Avenue, Ajax in Amsterdam, and Oldham Athletic, and included two promotions. Jack died near Oldham, just a few minutes from where I lived, and he was held in great respect through to his death in 1998.
    Whilst Jack got six caps for England, Arthur, amazingly got none. This despite scoring 459 goals in 659 appearances, the second most goals scored in Football League history, He’s been at school when war broke out, signed amateur forms with West Bromwich Albion in 1944 when 18, but moved to Fulham and Div 1 in 1948. A decent record (27 goals in 56) saw him off to Leicester in 1950, and that’s where he first became a legend. Ever more goals, 265, and matches ,303, but then off to Shrewsbury Town, as Player-Manager, and a legend again, this tie in Shropshire. Where he notched 152 times in 236 games. Managerially he went on to Sheffield United and Southend, and a career as a boss that got two promotions, one whilst still playing. A fine cricketer too (Minor Counties standard) Arthur passed away in 2002.
    Statistics of records broken and held seem to be never-ending for both of them. Yet statistics do not do their careers justice, and the inscription on Arthur’s headstone should apply to both of them - “record breaking football hero”. 
     

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  3. 56 minutes ago, LaticMark said:

    York City have sacked manager Michael Morton.

    The owner said that when he took over his first meeting with Morton had the purpose of sacking him. After talking to him, however, he felt he was the right man for the job. Five matches later he seems to think he should have gone with his initial instincts.

  4. 6 hours ago, oafc1955 said:

    just a snippet from the Spireites board…they don’t seem to impressed with our team either!!1
     

     

    Oldham were a shambles. They were disorganised. I'd rate their performance as one of the worst that I've seen by an away side v Town. Their passing, movement, ball control and tackling was awful. It was telling that during one of the breaks in play when three of ours went over to talk with our coaches, the Oldham players went nowhere near the touchline. We should have wiped the floor with them today.
     

    Selective .

    Several more comments on Latics playing well in containing Chesterfield, that Oldham didn’t give them hardly any chances, and a draw was fair result. 
     

  5. 3 hours ago, GlossopLatic said:

    Their was a time when going to away games was alot of fun back in the days of the beardy bus they weren't exactly tea parties and people would drink but overall the spirit was cordial and people were there to back the team have a sing song and a good day out.

     

    For a number of people this is still the case, but it's been getting increasingly worse particularly for the local away days for a number of years now with More and more scrotes who want to take something abit stronger than drink and who barely even watch the game and it turns into dickheads day out. Remember in 2018 when that moron ran on the pitch at Spotland and tried to assault the referee. It will be the same when we play them in October a load of Stone Island clad scrotes going to the toilets snorting shit and getting aggressive. I can't be arsed with it tbh so I probably won't go.

     

    The last local away I went to was Bury in 2019. Because we have a group of nobheads following us we now get a heavy handed police presence. As we were walking back to the town centre after the game it kicked off between a group of Oldham fans and the plod who were more than willing to start smacking people over there heads with trunctions.

     

    What we saw yesterday (which I know a last minute equaliser away from homeshould be celebrated but seriously that was more than over the top) will mean that when we do play Rochdale the plod will be out in full force and some will be only too willing to take a heavy handed approach and dish out a few beating. 

    Well put Glossop. 
    I applaud those Latics fans who do spend time and money to travel all over and give support. But there’s almost a desire amongst some to look for conflict or seek out negativity, whether it’s slagging off players, management, other fans or whatever.

    I’m not getting into the “everyone has the right to criticise “ argument - it’s slagging off, the foul abuse, that alienates me.

    Maybe I’m old fashioned, or just old, but it’s going to put off families as well as others. I remember going to watch Latics at Chesterfield in 61/2 and it was a great ( looking for BU reg cars on the way!) . Glad I wasn’t there with kids yesterday. 

     

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  6. 1 hour ago, Dave_Og said:

     

    I'd imagine plenty of sunday league refs have been wearing them for quite a while

    Not that many . North Riding FA trialed body cams towards the end of last season but most local FA's haven't. 

    Interestingly , in the matches where they were used , there was no need for any misbehaviour reports to be filed. 

  7. 1 hour ago, BP1960 said:

     

    Since I'm the one who recommended James Berry to the club its the same disappointment as when we didn't land Ryan Colclough.

    I liked the look of the tenacious 19yo Leicester City right back Joe Wormleighton, but I believe we require someone permanent rather than a loanee.

     

    As far as you know you were the first one. 
    You obviously spotted something that the club liked but isn’t it possible that they already had him under review? 

  8. 13 minutes ago, old codger said:

    I didn't plan to go to any preseason games but at home with the new pitch changed my mind.

     

    Their first two goals came from our errors (Ward dived in and a poor clearance by Hobson) whereas we made five good chances and couldn't finish them - true National league strikers.  Hobson was playing right back without the pace to get forward.  Raglan good and Ward OK.

     

    In essence the only thing new was Ward as Yarney played as well as Raglan at CB and Sutton as well as Hobson at RB.  We should make the top 7 but it isn't going to be pretty and the top spot is beyond that squad and our manager.

    You’ve got a 23 in 24 chance of being right. Even so, I’ll wait and see how other teams actually perform on grass before writing us off 

  9. 19 minutes ago, Worcester Owl said:

    Come on BP, you're better than that. Of course that's not what the club want. I'm sure they are doing the right thing by youth/squad players for the season ahead. And 14 games would be pathetically few - I can still remember playing way more games than that at school for goodness' sake!

    Agreed. Plus the fact that there will be injuries to players so the full squad is unlikely to be wholly functional all the time. 
     

    Aren’t there quite a lot of scheduled midweek matches this season? That would mean less available players for a B team. 

    The club has obviously thought this through and I’m prepared to accept their decision as being a sensible one . 
    I couldn’t help but notice that the Central League fixtures were , with the exception of Wrexham, all by EFL clubs. Different resources and set ups to us, 

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