wakefield-oldham

its payback time for selling us ormenroyd

i firmly believe until all the doo gooders who decided to tamper with our stadiums and our game in general,put their bollock right and put it back as it was,then its just gonna get worse and worse.. the bottom 2 divisions will inevitably become non proffesional....theres more and more clubs going into administration now than ever before...salary caps will have to come in... prime example of the decline,,,,celtic played rapid vienna last week....the long awaited re match from 25 years ago.. absolute hatred to this club vienna by the celtic fans,,,18000 empty seats,,,man utd playing wolfsburg...empty seats all around the ,,,full every game old trafford.... its not just a latics thing this is it,,,its football in general and it needs putting back as it was...

id say knocking the clayton down has contributed to loss of support lads love that booze before and after the game and a short stroll to the ground i know the clayton green is there but its just not the same is it.... must have been 600-1000 in the clayton before games i would imagine... lads dont want that agro of getting taxis or jumping on buses to get to the ground after a booze.. lack of a bar in the chaddy crap grub no grub no smoking no swearing no abuse and we pay them to get in

what was the reason for knocking the clayton down?

its the way forward for me sure to be a success

i know that,,,,but is it the law of the land that has been suggested for the gates to open at h/t

this thread is about trying to get supporters back to bp and the reasons they left... up to now all ive heard is why 1 bloke with asthma can now go to bp as opposed to many people not going due to none smoking....like its been said,,,,the club need to compromise here somewere and get them back,,,,, just putting over my view johnny,,,just like you got yours

i take on board all your stats and whatever but they not convincing me... i used to go with minimum 15 blokes every week out of the 15 i just counted 10 who smoke these 10 dont go anymore and they dont go to the pub like they used too thats 10 in our little possie how many more are their

well why didnt you skip reading 8-9 johnny nobodys forcing you to read them lets hear your ideas to getting the supporters back

yeah i know that,, thats why i said,,,go on have a look THIS WILL NEVER HAPPEN

the new stadium has got to be 2 tiers bottom tier non smokers top tier smokers smoke rises everyones a winner might bring some of the characters back to latics but i know this will never happen

so we should give up on thousands of potential fans because one or two are asthmatic that makes sense

how do you know it wouldnt add a 1000 to the gate

well your a first.....but you will stand there on a tuesday night -10 with a bad chest....or is it a case of picking on the easy target a smoker

i would hazard a guess,,,,if the govt allowed smoking in open spaces it would add 1000 to every home game....how many non smokers now dont go to the game because they used to go with a smoker who doesnt go anymore because he cant smoke

we are talking about a football match in open air,,,,its not as if we are sat in a closed box is it...... and before the smoking ban became law,,,i didnt hear one single person say :im not going to the game today because of all the smokers:,,,,,i never heard one person say im not going in the pub tonight because of all the smokers.... smoking is a really nasty habit but when you try telling someone they CANT have a smoke then they just not gonna show...

its not a question of whether you like smoking or not when we were getting 10000 crowds...i would bet half of those smoked thats alot of people now being told what they can and cant do on a saturday afternoon

and flying is a luxury

another thing thats killing the game at lower levels is the banning of smoking its killed the pub game and its now got its teeth into football...imo infact you could say the same thing about most social activities

i live in wakefield now about 1 mile from belle view,,home of the wakefield wildcats on nearly every junction,,pub car parks,,shops,,u name it,,there are massive and i mean massive billboards advertising the next home game the wildcats have....out of towners have no choice but to see these boards and im sure they must have attracted people from far away.....beaware,,living in wakefield,,,you know who the wildcats are playing week in week out...the local paper,,,the wakefield express,,,all the back page is about the wilcats and more....even if they have nothing to report,,the back page is filled somehow prove me right if im wrong but if i drive through oldham tomorrow,,would i find out who latics next home game is against and when...i doubt it....im trying to set up my own business and i have found out advertising is essential to future success...

brf,,,,,,,im off with coming on here and reading the u post... dont say dont read it then cos your everywere.... everyday i have to put up with the constant crap of you....u do my head in... go support someone else,,,,i dont want u as a oldham fan... not coming on here again till your banned...

should give tokens out at the turnstiles starting next home game and these tokens to be used in any future big cup game...

wont get any more in... full last season all 3 games

nick henrys v arsenal in cup neil adams v brighton away,,,,half way line andy ritchie v brighton away his 2nd goal masterclass carl valantine v bolton 76 or 77 vic halom v bristol rovers dont know when alan young v leicester in cup,,,,hatrick goal john ryan v wolves 81 think won 4-1 and for sheer excitement and joy ,,neil adams 1st goal v west ham semi final,,,,fantastic move and superb finish from a then remarkable team