Gary1906

Like him or loathe him Fane has to play if he’s fit.

Believe me I’ve taken some convincing with him, he’s THE most awkward looking player when he’s got the ball that I’ve ever seen!

His weight of pass his abysmal at times, but the one thing he can do - and does do - is break up play. He puts in some tremendous tackling with those long legs of his.

Sometimes a team needs a lesser talented  player to do the dirty work for the flair players.

We just don’t seem to have any tacklers in midfield, but Fane certainly is, and he gets through a massive amount of work every game.

He might not be pleasing to the eye but I guarantee that the likes of Byrne and Gardner love playing alongside him.

Placide

Dummigan

Bryan

Gerrard

Moimbe or Wilson

Nepomuceno

Fane

Byrne

Gardner

Davies

Nazon

Subs:

Zeus

Moimbe or Wilson

Edmundson

Pringle

Benyu

Tope

Amadi-Holloway

Give Fane, Byrne and Gardner an opportunity to get back on track in midfield. Pringle and Byrne seem to be very similar, personally at the moment I’d rather have Byrne.

Got to be two up front. Davies and Nazon should have first crack at striking up a partnership.

Just a thought on the Swedish striker Richard Yarsuvat. If he’s a free agent, we can sign him after the deadline can’t we?

If that’s the case there’s still a chance for him and others to still be signed. 

3 minutes ago, deyres42 said:

I'm sure he's left that world far behind Gazza.

Yeah I’m sure. ?

I wonder how many of his ex clients will be introduced to RW, or already have been?

6 minutes ago, deyres42 said:

We've got into bed with an agent, this is the way it will be.

Thought he was an ex agent??

1 minute ago, HarryBosch said:

 

I don't have a problem with Abdallah bringing players in, within reason.

 

Team selection should absolutely be the managers choice but if AL thinks bringing in other players for him to work with (and play if he sees fit) will be to the benefit of the club let's see how it pans out... 

So the owner of the club keeps bringing 5 or 6 players in for the manager to look at, and the manager doesn’t fancy any of them but probably feels under a little bit of pressure to perhaps keep one, maybe two occasionally. Sorry but that doesn’t sound like a good way of working to me. Very awkward for the manager.

We are only guessing anyway of course but I really hope it doesn’t work like that.

Much better for the manager, coaching staff and scouts to go and watch players themselves and then see if the owner has got the cash to bring any of them in.

At least that way the manager has definitely brought his own man in.

3 minutes ago, BP1960 said:

 

RW has got his own man in first..Doyle.

To be fair though, looking back at the video at Christmas, I think Doyle was staying then had he not fallen ill.

it will be interesting to see the quality of any foreign signings though, because they haven’t been good enough on the whole so far.

8 minutes ago, League one forever said:

 

Spot on.

 

I don’t mind if AL Suggests players to Wellens, or the whoever is the manager. Or offers them a trial in the summer so we can have a good look before making a decision. But’s not what’s happening. Players are just being signed or offered a quick trial and shez and now Wellens are just having to deal with it. . .  

 

We will constantly have two different agenda’s when it come to signing someone, who the owner can bring in, and who the manager wants. Common sense tell you, that will cause friction. 

 

The most pressing thing though is the players AL has brought in, are largely poor and Wellens doesn’t trust them. IMO if it’s RW neck on line then he has to be given full responsability for the job. 

 

Totally agree with this! ?

8 minutes ago, TheBigDog said:

 

Abdallah stated in the press conference that Richie Wellens has final say over players did he not?

I reckon we may see two or three join today but no more.

I hope so. I hope they are of a sufficient standard as well.

30 minutes ago, Hands on said:

To show my ignorance (again).

 

Is it usual to have trialists in the January window.  Surely this is something you do before the season starts to check on a players form.  Shouldn't we be signing players who have played games and who have been assessed by someone for us.  Trialists speaks of a van full of people with names we have never heard of before.   They are unlikely to be the answer for a team staring at relegation because there is no time to acclimatise to league 1 football.

Couldn’t agree more. If the management team were looking at players for the first time yesterday and being expected to make a decision on them then that can’t be good.

I would hope that the scouting and recruiting is carried out much more professionally than that but I’m far from convinced.

The last lot of foreign imports hardly set the place alight - Omrani, Mouache, Menig, to name but three. I do wonder whether Shez earlier in the season and RW currently are being ‘given’ these players and being told that they are going to be signed. Hope that isn’t the case because apart from it being unfair on the manager, they have been, on the whole, sub-standard. 

Not being negative just saying it as I see it.

First question:

Have we got ANY news on ANY players being signed today?

Second question:

Will we have heard of any of them?

14 minutes ago, OldHallam said:

lol manager was Harry Haslam.... Atkinson link was via my late uncle who was a latics director but already moved to Blackpool as a director. Atkinson was at West Brom but supposed to be helping the board out  in Sheffield as team struggling and advised to go for experienced  players at Sheffield and mentioned Stainrod to my uncle. Blackpool had signed a few high profile players and passed on Stainrods name to latics. West Brom had considered signing him but wasnt experienced enough for Atkinson who could have had him. 

 

Thanks for clearing that up. I was trying to remember Ron Atkinson at Sheff Utd.

??

4 minutes ago, OldHallam said:

A player older fans will remember Ray Treacy had a stunner of a game. played two more games and back to Preston never to be seen again. 

 

David Shaw was pretty spectacular on debut still vastly underrated for his goal to games ratio for latics. 91 goals in 214 games. 

 

Stainrod the best debut by far. How Ron Atkinson let us have him a mystery having scored against us at Bramhall Lane was clearly a good player. 

Ron Atkinson??

29 minutes ago, BP1960 said:

 

Still remember Taylor's first goal, ran with the ball from 40 yards out then rocketed the ball into the net from just outside the penalty area.

 

He was rapid as well! 

I used to stand in the old Ford Stand paddock with my dad. 

Mull of Kintyre used to be played before the match. ?

Mile Bernard made his debut in the same match. David Irving might have done as well. ⚽️

Steve Taylor, 1978 I think.

Scored 2 on his debut against Notts County.

Stevie Stevie Taylor!! ⚽️⚽️

52 minutes ago, yarddog73 said:

Short sighted and blinkered Latics fans can't see the wood for the trees again shocker 

Meaning what???

30 minutes ago, BP1960 said:

 

Probably took one look at the Oldham weather forecast today and decided to stay at home 

Never heard of him anyway. Just like I’d never heard Omrani, Mouache or Menig, none of which were worth a place in the team. Sign some proven quality like Doyle, at least you know what you are getting - or likely to get. Too many chances being taken on sub-standard foreign players.

6 minutes ago, Worcester Owl said:

 

Some good points Gary, though we did go 5 without a win after drubbing Northampton before Byrne and Bryan went back. But clearly Doyle has been a massive loss.

 

RW is beginning to remind me of one of those rounds of golf where you're on for a good score. Instead of carrying on with an attacking game you start to get defensive and try to protect your score. From bitter experience, it's always a bad move,

Ha Ha I know what you mean, but I’m rarely on for a good round of golf.

i usually start off mediocre then fall away a bit. ⛳️?

IMO they should not be thinking of sacking Wellens. 

When he first took over he got Latics playing some fantastic, entertaining football, something that we as fans have been starved of for years.

It wasn’t just down to the ‘new manager’ effect, they were playing a much better, more attacking brand of football. Byrne - and to a lesser extent Gardner - was pulling the strings in midfield and we had a very potent strike force up front with Doyle and Davies.

I think the main reason(s) for the drop in form and performance has been the illness to Doyle, coupled with Byrne and Bryan initially going back. For some reason it’s badly affected our fluency and we’ve struggled to get it back especially with only having one striker that actually scores goals now.

I think Pringle and Byrne are too similar and both want to do the same thing. Byrne in particular looked stifled in midfield against Plymouth. I would revert to Byrne and Gardner back in the middle again, Fane being the defensive midfielder.

Also I think Nepomuceno is wasted at left back. For a start I don’t think he can defend, and he’s much better in a more forward position.

The new lad up front looked promising alongside Davies. I couldn’t understand why he didn’t start. One striker up front in “the most important game of the season” didn’t make much sense to me.

People knock Davies but he’s the only striker likely to score with anything like any regularity. 

They criticise him for not holding the ball up well enough but it’s not easy when it’s hoofed up to him and there’s a big centre half clambering all over him.

When Holloway plays alongside him, Holloway is able to flick the ball on, but when Davies is on his own up front he’s got no one to flick the ball on to.

If Holloway plays up front on his own he will have exactly the same problem.

Playing 2 up front seems the obvious answer, the sooner it can be a Doyle/Davies partnership again the better.

COYB ⚽️⚽️

10 minutes ago, rigsby said:

So where has the money come from? Not from our £22 a fortnight, or from our £300 season tickets!!

35 minutes ago, Whitts said:

My view too.  I do not understand all the animosity to someone who kept ths club solvent.  I believe he did his best, invested as best he could and kept the club in this division after the other amigos gave up.  He knows this club better than anyone, will have learnt from his mistakes and maybe with Abdullah on board can together grow the club in a sustainable way.  We need to stay up this year and then aim to be top half next year and keep making steps in the right direction.  Holding our own in the Championship in the next five years and further improvements to the ground would be success for me and I think it would be good if SC can play some part in this latest chapter.

Couldn’t agree more. The Corney haters bandwagon is ridiculous, he was the only one putting any money in and the only one who has somehow not only managed to keep the club afloat but also kept them in the same division despite the pretty pathetic attendances and lack of money coming through the gate.

Look at Stockport and Tranmere and where they’ve ended up!

A bit of realism required by some on here.

16 minutes ago, Dave_Og said:

So Davies to Coventry....?

That would be a bad move for us. Must keep Davies, he guarantees goals alongside another good striker. Need to get Doyle back with him as soon as he’s fit and well again. Resume the partnership. No brainer for me. ⚽️⚽️

20 hours ago, HarryBosch said:

 

Not sure about the "engage with fans" bit or what exactly you mean by "engage".

 

Isn't it largely the same 1% of idiots you mention further on who are always demanding to be engaged/communicated with? (then moaning about the content of any such communication)

With the remainder who do so in a more sensible manner still representing a tiny, overly needy & entitled minority of our support?

And we all pay our money & go already anyway. 

The vast majority of match going fans and stay aways still don't follow, or want to follow, every minute detail of what goes on at the club like we do. 

I don't think it's as important an issue as your piece makes out. You might be placing too much weight on something that only matters to a tiny minority (and even then probably shouldn't).

I just hope he'll run the club in a manner where there's never much of consequence to communicate anyway.

 

I hope we see a show of ambition on the pitch - that doesn't have to mean mega money being thrown about (although that'd be great) just a clear intent to finish higher season after season whether that be via better signings, better managers (I'm fine with RW as things stand)  or developing youth. Probably all of that. 

 

 

Simplified pricing too - £20 everywhere for every adult, £5 everywhere for every kid on the day and in advance. £300 for an adult season ticket, £50 for kids. 

And let the town know FFS! (this kind of engagement we do need). 

Mail or leaflet drop every house in Oldham twice a year. 

If there's really some advantage/extra profit to people buying tickets online put them into a high probability draw to win something rather than charge someone who suddenly decides to go on a Saturday £4 more. Many begrudge paying this and many just plain won't. 

 

And I hope he ditches the matchday penny pinching shenanigans too - instead of constantly pissing people off it's worth "risking" making a few hundred quid less if some pies end up being thrown away or if some bar staff end up twiddling their thumbs because everybody has been served.

In reality he'd probably turn a bigger profit. 

I agree with all of this. ?

1 hour ago, NewBlue said:

Can’t be arsed thinking up a team. We’ve got Fane, Pringle and Byrne in midfield. That’s enough for me. Them and no Tope and I’m happy we can win...

Wouldn’t be surprised if Fane is out, listening to Wellens’ press conference yesterday.

10 hours ago, deyres42 said:

Oldham 1 Plymouth 3.

Can’t be doing with pessimists. Or even realists sometimes. I’d rather be a blind optimist.

Latics 3 - 1 Plymouth ?⚽️?