Stainrod

We have played in yellow before, get over it.

Comic geniuses

Definitely Burton, being based in Stafford along with Port Vale, Walsall and Crewe they are good away days for me. Selfish I know.

Crewe to go I would think, Notts only need a draw with us and my gut feel is that they will fight harder for it than we will, Preston will want to keep momentum and have enough to win at Crewe and I suspect the Trannies will get a desperate and panicky win at home to Bradford. Nice to be just observing it.

While we were in the Premiership Preston were in the old 4th!

I'd imagine that St Mirren fans would argue that ours must be a terrible league if Gary Harkins stands out!

When I played for the school team at Bluecoat we used to play against a Grange team with Paul Hilton in, he went on to play regularly as centre back for West Ham in the eighties, didn't stand out as a footballer at school to me but he was known to be 'ard'.

Contentious one this.

I know that when we dropped from the Premiership we hoped we might bounce back but thought that we would once again be a solid tier two team and then when we dropped to league one we expected a swift return or certainly to operate at the top end and that didn't work out either, BUT,

Surely we will be a successful club in league two if the worst came to the worst. Would this be that bad? My first days of supporting Latics came when we won the old Ford Sporting league back in the day, we had a really successful team, were fantastic at Boundary Park, rarely lost, scored lots of goals and won fans over. At the time I also followed Chelsea (they won the cup in 1970 and the Cup Winners cup in '71, that's what kids do) and so I used to get my dad to take me to City and Utd when they travelled North. Bear in mind this was the days of Best, Law and Charlton, Bell, Lee and Summerbee, and Osgood, Hudson and Hutchinson and which team did I pick....Oldham. The reason for that was that they were winning every time I saw them and scoring goals. My lad is 17 now and has given up because they have been in this league all his life!! We have lost a generation and maybe we need to drop, regroup have a bit of success in order attract a few new supporters who, like me, will be bitten by the Latics bug.

The last thing I want is to go down this year but you have to admit it's becoming so boring.

Sorry but I hate drumming it, it spoils watching the England matches for me with that band too. Watching football and musical instruments don't go.

Not for me.

Tommy Bryceland

Simon Stainrod

Korey Smith

Tarky has been outstanding in a team that sticks around the lower reaches of league 1, he's not as good as that centre back pairing at Wolves who are the top end of the same division. I doubt he has the pace for anything above lower end of the Championship. Be sorry to see him go however.

Our big problem? We never work the keeper, we rarely get shots on target, contrast that with Wolves, it seemed as though they made Oxley work every time.

Paul Black

No, I've been at Boundary Park when we have had the car boot challenge. Never saw anyone win the season ticket though.

Not many months ago we'd be saying we have two quality strikers. Read on an opponents message board a week or two ago that they rated our forwards based on what they have done at this level, I still feel they have something to offer if tried together.

one goal in all 4 games he has played, really unlocked defences hasn.t he ?

Take another look at the Walsall highlights.

I would pair our two most likely/natural scores up front (McDonald and Rooney), Harkins just behind with a midfield three of Smith, Wes and Dayton.

JCH, Philly, Worral and the rest on the bench. Strong bench.

No 'target man' I know BUT you have two forwards waiting for the through ball from Harkins/Dayton and to lesser extent Wes/Korey. Not much down the wings but I don't think we have the forwards to attack the cross (Rooney at home v Vale being a notable exception).

Worth a try?

Some save by Oxley. Time he got a bit of credit, he's doing a good job for us.

Harkins is the player brought in to open up the defence, he looks capable of doing that to me, ok he's slow so once has done his trick he needs to move the ball on (he's not going to outpace anyone) but he knows that and so does Johnson. We have asked for a player like this, we now have one, let's see what he can do.

Note some excellent stuff from Harkins even on brief highlights, might not look the part but capable of doing what everybody feels we are crying out for.....that killer pass.

Stick with him, he'll come good in my view.

Am I right to make a judgement here that when the cross comes in the player in the box should gamble with a diving header perfect height for one. Johnson was right we don't have players who will go in and out their head where it hurts.

That's what I thought at the time, it was right in front of us and Philly ought to have gambled and thrown himself at it. That's the instinct of a natural goal poacher, McDonald would probably have reacted more quickly.

I suspect JSS was taking the proverbial Stainrod.

Oh, funny guy!

He went to the game and came to the conclusion of most of those who didn't ..toothless and a familiar pattern,

Yes, but it certainly wasn't a poor quality performance, good to watch but struggling to score would be a less derogatory way to put it but take your point.

I think you'll find this is the reactionist thread for people who didn't go to the game. Jog on.

Meaning?