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I don’t see how we start the game without Nazon

Constant threat last night and a baffling decision to take him off.

I hope Tope isn’t anywhere near the bench never mind the team

Miombe and in particular Gardner our best players today, Gardner again showing some urgency that the rest of the team lack. 

Hunt had a mare first half, Could tell he's not Match fit and his sharpness is lacking after months out. 

Their first goal was fantastic, however we should have been 1-0 up at that stage with Doyle being in 1 on 1 then seemingly melted in front of goal. 

Byrne HAS to come central, he was garbage today. Strolling round, arguing with Wellens on occasion it seemed, We need the old Jack B Back! 

Fane I'm sorry, he had a good couple of months but he's shocking. Not a league 1 midfielder at all. He had NO idea what to do with the ball when he gets it. That run with the ball sideways right across the pitch in the 2nd half during a decent attack, to then just fall over and lose possession was painful to watch. 

We struggled to make 5-10 yard passes at times today. Some over hit, some under hit, Some blasted at players so their first touch made them lose possession, some just several yards away from the receiving player, School boy stuff.

Kean Bryan mistake criminal.

Changes needed

3 minutes ago, deyres42 said:

Onus is on Fane and Gardner to make sure he doesn't have to do.

And Wellens, who seems set on having him play out wide...

20 minutes ago, deyres42 said:

Can play where he wants for me, a joy to watch.

Not disputing that he is, just if we want to get the best out of him, i think he needs to be central and further up the pitch, not stood on Kean Bryan's Toes for half the match

2 hours ago, oafcmetty said:

Blaming Byrne is absurd. The blame lies with the rest of the players in failiing to get the ball to him in advanced positions.

It's really not, The players aren't given the option of attempting this. He just wants the ball 24/7. Byrne is our best player no doubt on his day, but he's the one who who's dropping as deep as possible to collect the ball. Needs to be told to stay further up the pitch

13 minutes ago, yarddog73 said:

True but playing Fane as the ball winner requires Byrne to look for him (Fane has an inability to kick a ball straight further than 5 yards) which invariably means he's dropping deeper than needs be, it worked initially but teams have sussed that now and it means its more difficult for us to play it out from the back because they crowd us out in the centre of the park and effectively we lose the battle, it pains me to say it but with the players at Wellens disposal a 4-5-1 or even a 4-3-3  with the two wide front men tucking in would make us a lot more solid, Bryne has to play centrally for me he makes us tick in that role and finds it more difficult and probably frustrating to get involved in games when he is moved out wide, for me the big game this weekend is on Monday and I wouldn't be risking one player in tomorrows game if there is a chance of them breaking down.

Agree about the part of Byrne needing to play middle, he's wasted out wide. 

Pay on the day tomorrow is it turnstile or ticket office job? 

14 hours ago, leeslover said:

He doesn't go deep to help the defence though, he does it to collect the ball. Perhaps because he's getting no service but we can't fix that while he plays sweeper.

This is spot on. He's going Deep as he wants the ball constantly, needs to let others have a touch and remain higher up the pitch

1 hour ago, boundaryblue80 said:

Agree about the cringeworthy chanting.

 

As for the team, I feel Nazon needs to start. His pace frightens defences. It's something we don't have when he isn't playing and it scared the shit out of Blackburn and Bury (when we actually got the ball to his feet). How we fit him in though is the conundrum. Add to that, this midfield needs to get Byrne the ball in places he can hurt teams. That means Fane and Gardner stepping up to the plate coz they've been way off it lately.

Think Gardner has been one of the better players in recent matches to be honest! Only player who seemed to give a toss against Portsmouth

Will be going, Can't see anything other than a Wigan drubbing. 3-0 Wigan.

Though I thought we'd get stuffed at Blackburn and we raised our game for it. 

4 hours ago, League one forever said:

Like the rest of team he picked up, after a poor start on sat. 

 

I like Miombe, mainly because he’s got a bit about him- he gets stuck in. That’s a valuable commodity in a relegation battle. A fighter. 

 

(Yes, I know he’s walking red card, but rather that than a shithouse) 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Good passer too

I like him. He had a shocking 30 minutes but who didn't?

Other than that, since he's signed he's been quality.

Think we will start Doyle and Davies

On 10 March 2018 at 9:55 PM, BP1960 said:

 

Well he did just that for 89+minutes and I doubt if RW will be pleased. 

I'd be surprised if he starts the next game.

Think it will be him and Doyle against Pompey. Agree about Davies, he tapped it in due to Nazon running forward, going past 1 defender, having a go and Shooting. He scuffed the shot but Davies had an open net to tape into from 5 yards out. 

I like Davies though, I think he should start. He certainly blows hot and cold, but we need more from him weekly than his performance at Bury. 

On 10 March 2018 at 10:18 PM, wilsonjunior said:

Yeah I have to agree, no messing about and put in a solid performance! 

Completely Agree. Played excellent when he came on. 

Overall I thought we where absolutely garbage the first 30 minutes, don't get me wrong Bury where very good, but we just weren't up for it. Surprising given the following, which I don't care what you say, that should and normally does lift a player. I'd rather 3000 Cheer me on than 12. 

Thought Nazon was okay first half, couple of nice dribbles and his "having a go" lead to the goal out of nowhere. 

Second half much better, I'm not a pringle fan really and have shouted for him to be dropped but he got us out of jail there. 

Number of times in the second half though, we had the chance to shoot but would try one more pass, we're not the Arsenal of old for gods sake trying to pass it in, hit the bloody thing! 

On 12 March 2018 at 8:44 AM, Dave_Og said:

Perhaps more pertinently would Holloway have been in the right place to tap it in?

Nope. 

Big Holloway fan until recently, even when he came on near the end he was just jogging around. Lazy 

4 minutes ago, rudemedic said:

Can he though? All the turns I've seen him do aren't Cruyff turns. 

you know I thought I had spelt it wrong but was too lazy to check.

Should know better on OWTB

4 minutes ago, Smiler13 said:

Was the best shot stopper in a long while granted but the rest of his play was rubbish. Even Carlo Nash said in the summer that if Ripley came back he would have to seriously work on his distribution. Will be good to compare one against the other in a real game tomorrow. Bring it on. 

Well of course this season I hope ours is better  

If I had to pick a keeper for next season though it would be Ripley all day for me 

5 minutes ago, Smiler13 said:

Disagree with you about Johnny and Bryan seems to agree with me in today’s press. Ripleys distribution has always been bad however his shot stopping last season was excellent but he’s not got many clean sheets this season so hoping we can bag a few on Saturday. 

Jonny boots it out of play most of his passes...

Bryan isn't going to come out and slag off his keeper is he lol

Never a first choice for me, just because he can do a cryuff turn he's some people's wonder keeper. 

I don't NOT like him, I just think we can do better, especially if we have decent ££ to throw at wages

Ripley is the best keeper we have had at Latics in god knows how long

3 minutes ago, Smiler13 said:

I don’t get it why should we encourage Ripley to have a great game against us????  We should be encouraging our forwards to put as many into his onion bag as we can. 

I'll clap Ripley, and I want us to go in for him in summer if we have decent £££ to throw at wages, he is 10x better than Jonny Tinder. 

However, I hope Doyle makes a fool of him tomorrow. 

Think Davies and Nazon will start with Doyle coming off the bench with 30-35 left. Unless we are losing at HT then he'll come on then

2200 sold out

1 hour ago, Laticfanatic1 said:

Covers were put on yesterday early doors 

1 hour ago, Laticfanatic1 said:

Covers were put on yesterday early doors 

1 hour ago, Laticfanatic1 said:

Covers were put on yesterday early doors 

When where they put on?

3 minutes ago, yarddog73 said:

Can't wait for the 'we are staying up' chant to do the rounds again - absolute piss boil song that one, there's nothing worse for me than celebrating the fact that we've finished top of the bottom quarter of the table. 

Could not agree more

1 hour ago, Mickey Quinn's testicles said:

 

It looked like he was staying onside to me. He looked well onside for a couple of them at least. The linesman seemed to be confusing him with Holloway.

I was in RRE so difficult to tell, used to him being offside a few times a game so assumed he was but last night was ridiculous

11 hours ago, BP1960 said:

 

Agreed, maybe the Gardner critics who  wrote him off will gave him some deserved praise. 

Perhaps all along he was struggling with an illness during his slump in form.

He was over christmas - where you could tell he wasn't himself. Had an engine all seasons but for a few weeks over Xmas he wasn't at full speed. 

Good player, much needed in this side with his pressing

11 hours ago, b0ndl1ne said:

I still shudder at the 5-3 defeat under David Dunn...

Haha same. Was it Cornell we had in net at the time? Flapped at like 4 crosses all resulting to goals

12 hours ago, Stagger Lee said:

Byrne off for tope  -    mmmmmm not sure what tope brings

Me neither he's garbage. 

Horrible 1-0 last night but Will take it. Shocking 2nd half performance, the amount of times we where in a good position and just wouldn't cross it or wouldn't do that final pass, frustrating to Watch. Davies needs to get in the middle rather than out on the wing and for the love of christ Stay onside! 

Still a much needed 3 points and will take it, Feel for Holloway at the end the pitch fucked him over big time. 

Gardner was immense last night, his pressing was fantastic at times. 

I think we'll be pushing 3k for this

1 minute ago, youngen said:

 

 

Could be around 1.5/25k there!

25k now that's impressive

Over 1.5k sold.