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'Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted.'
I think Emerson was saying, debate the opinion - the idea - rather than attacking the person.
I'm saying cool off or you're gone.
Or we could debate my opinion of him and his incessant spouting of what, in my opinion, is :censored:
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It's not just cock ups though is it? Corney deliberately withheld the information and then used that money against the new stand, that's disingenuous at best, as is the fact that the car park revenue doesn't go to the club but to a company owned in part by him. If Corney truly had the best interests of OAFC at heart he wouldn't have been so evasive, he would be actively informing supporters of his actions mistakes and all, which if he had would've gained him a lot of goodwill, I don't think anyone would slate him for making honest mistakes. Instead we get disinformation and no information, at least finally more fans are waking up to the fact that we're being royally screwed over.
You repeatedly slate him for honest mistakes. Boring
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We made a decent profit not long ago. Every extra penny in we've had that hasn't been budgeted for will have gone into TTAs new stand.
Was that profit from transfers and cup runs?
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Do we make enough money over the course of a season to cover all our bills?
I don't believe we do without factoring in transfers and cup runs. May be wrong. Sure that's way it is though
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How we going to deal with the threat of Danny Philliskirk is the big question...
If you get near him and blow on him he'll probably fall over
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??? never miss a trick
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Sound. I work from home and spend a lot of time searching for things so should help a bit.
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What's the search link instead of Google?
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Calm down, it's just the internet,
Everyone has the right to be stupid but he abuses the privilege
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To be fair your 5,6,7 responses could have been used for all your responses. "obviously thought it would work"
And that's a total apologist approach. There's a whole batch of issues and you just apathetically let it all go.
Honest mistakes. Why are they being battered for them? How many business decisions are made thinking there's no chance this will work? Some jokers here
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Where will the money generated from the scoreboard go? If the fans are going to own it then we should decide how the revenue generated from it should be spent, for example starting new projects.
If we sold a player bought through playershare do we have a say in where the money generated from that goes? Nope. Same thing
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This!!!!
Its really winding me up now. There's only so much we can or should know. What other clubs will give the information people are asking for. I'm guessing zero
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Honestly don't get some people on here. They did a :censored:ing survey and obviously majority said they'd like a new scoreboard. If you don't like the idea don't :censored:ing contribute. Simple as that. No need for a 20 page thread about it. You're in or you're not. Easy
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Thought it was really well written. Feel sorry for him though because no matter what he said there are morons on here who will twist everything or demand every last detail down to his :censored:ing pin number and still not be happy
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Seriously?
That explains everything then, all these angry and pissed off fans are angry and pissed off for no reason at all lol.
I always wondered if there was more to you than just giving out abuse, you're the asset strippers apologist in chief. Nice one.
So you're saying that they deliberately went out of their way to lie purposely and knowingly to the fans? Or more likely do you think they believed things would be ready and were probably quite pissed off themselves when they couldn't have it ready? They haven't profited from it not being open on time. Some absolute clowns on here and you're up there with the biggest. I'll refrain from using the word I normally do to describe you. That opinion still stands. C U Next Tuesday
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So has anyone who is seriously concerned tried to do anything?
Have you contacted the trust? Attended trust meetings to try get something sorted? Have you e-mailed Corney asking whether the previous offer to see the books is still open? Have you tried to set up some form of supporters association to try get answers? Maybe even a protest that has a targeted objective and a set plan to achieve this objective?
Or are you still spouting the same argument from behind a keyboard for however many months and years whilst doing jack :censored: about it and continuing to moan about no answers?
I'm not defending the club here, no doubt there has been poor decisions and management from those at the top. Clearly some stuff is unclear. But if you really want answers, then do something about it. Keep saying the same stuff on here won't change a thing.
Course they haven't done any of that. Jokers the lot of them
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The furore is not just for a undisclosed transfer fee, it is for a accumulation of events
1 Moving to Failsworth
2 Three stands
3 Finance was in place for the new stand/ obviously not true
4 Numerous false promises when the stand would be completed then a total lack of communication?
5 Appointing DH when we have a chance of the play offs still
6 Appointing DK with no experience
7 Appointing DD with no experience
8 Promise of funds for JS
9 We the supporters belief we would see some of the sell on clause for player recruitment, then to find out it as already been cashed in
I'm sure their is more i have missed, so i can understand the furore to a degree.
1. Never happened thankfully
2. If you never go to 3 you won't have a new one
3.I believe it was but if I'm right the plans were changed to make it bigger and better
4. Things happen. No matter who is to blame. Things go wrong. The promises they made about when it would open were obviously genuine ones.
5. Obviously thought he was good enough.
6. Worked ok with LJ
7. As much as I hated him, worked ok with LJ
8. He's brought in the CB everyone was crying out for plus extended Dummigan to end of season. Also brought Palmer in albeit temporary for now. Also free agents we can sign for a striker. 2 out of 3 positions he wanted he has and we haven't definitely not signed a new striker
9. How do you know the money cashed in hasn't gone to Gerrard wage and a potential striker?
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I boycotted Sky long ago-even before they got Michael Owen on board.
I will still laugh though when Gary Neville gets sacked!
Pains me to say I actually like him these days. Never thought I'd say that about Gary Neville
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As I pay BT for my internet and Sky TV I'm going to start a thread where like minded people demand to know things like how much compensation was received from Valencia for Gary Nevilles appointment. I also want to know what the accounts say with regards to that boring get Michael Owen and his wages. Unless I get that information I will boycott watching sky sports that I am already paying for. Anyone joining me? Didn't think so
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"This must be down to us having no cash"
Why does it have to be down to this?
Why can't it simply be because players don't want to come and play for a :censored: of a chairman?
Imagine these players spoke to the likes of rhys murphy etc and said "how did the fans treat you at the club"
Think about that
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I get all that but there is no sale to be made unless the ground comes with it, nobody is going to pay them rent.
Why?!?!? Plenty of owners will have bought companies that don't own the ground
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Good job he's a legend then cos if it was the previous manager he'd be hung drawn and quartered for saying it. Not that he would've cos whatever else he was he wasn;t a yes-man.
Ah you mean the last bloke who said we needed a CB desperately and did nothing about it. Unlike sheridan who had one in within how long? Dunn was full of :censored: and I wouldn't trust him to pick an outfit from my wardrobe never mind players to keep this club up. If sheridan says he is happy then that's good enough for me. If we go down then people can say he's wrong. Till then do us all a favour and shhh. You have an unhealthy obsession with Dunn. You turn most of your comments on this forum towards licking his arse
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Nobody at the club speaks. Get shot to pieces over it.
Someone at the club speaks. Get shot to pieces over it.
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But we have only been allowed to borrow him, meaning he goes back to them most probably!
With Higdon and Henderson and Holt their clubs dont want them at all
Higdon's ratio for us is all that needs to be looked at. Will score us goals.
Matt Palmer
in The opinions4u Terraces - Latics Forum
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This is a great point. But the people it is aimed at have made their mind up and cannot see both sides of the argument. They're not open to looking at different perspectives