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Clearly states in the article that it's not known whether she was paired on or not. You're just accepting she was. As as you accuse me of ignoring the occasional point in every tirade I note that you have not commented on IDS accepting that Tory TPIMs watered down the power available against terror compared to Labour control orders, a measure May supported and Corbyn voted against.

Again in the interests of balance he voted the same way as TMay on the 2005 prevention of terrorism act and on the introduction of ID cards. There's an interesting article on their respective voting records on terror legisalation on the BBC website. Whether you agree with him or not he usually bothered to turn up to vote unlike May who couldn't be arsed on numerous occasions.

Fine. It it would help your argument if you didn't propagate lies about Corbyn's stance on shoot to kill though. A quick search for his leaders report to the NEC after the 2015 Paris attacks clearly states that he supports whatever (key word) appropriate proportionate response is necessary to save lives in circumstances similar to the Paris attacks. Clearly last nights frankly brilliant work by armed police was proportionate. Don't believe everything you're told.

So to summarise today so far, T May has declared after 7 years as Home Sec and PM that enough is enough. Brilliant. Meanwhile noted lefty IDS has admitted on R4 that the Tory Govt's replacement of control orders with TPIMs in 2011 has "watered down" terror effort. You couldnt make make it up.

Well maybe if her track record of taking 20,000 police off the streets is completely ignored.

Which is why I support the renewal of Trident. It doesn't diminish the point that it is only a deterrent if you never use it. As soon as you do, whatever the circumstances, it isn't a deterrent.

I'm not a pacifist but there were several questions about whether he would be prepared to use it first. You refer to it as a deterrent as does everybody. If you use it first it's not a deterrent. Also worth pointing out if you use it second it's not a deterrent either.

It almost makes you feel grateful for British politicians whatever their hue. The apparent desire for nuclear holocaust in that audience tonight was pretty chilling.

Riley not interested?

I'll take your word for it I haven't looked at the OBR forecasts or their assumptions. I suppose my comeback would be at least they've had a stab at forecasting unlike the other lot who astonishingly didn't even bother.

Clearly the amount of income raised in corporation tax is a function of the rate and the profits of the firms that pay it (and therefore by implication economic growth). Clearly this is an inexact science particularly when it comes to forecasting over the medium term. Having done a cursory google search (I wasn't Party to writing the Labour manifesto you'll be amazed to learn) they have based their projections on OBR forecasts. The OBR are not known for their accuracy but if you can point me in the direction of reputable economic forecasters who are I'll be sure to pass that information on to Labour HQ.

I didn't make that statement - yesterday you criticised me for butting in on a debate you were having worth someone else now you're encouraging me to. Make your fucking mind up.

Over simplified generalisation or rubbish. Make you're mind up there's a world of difference.

Fake news?

I'd have a wild guess at social injustice if I had to. It's why the left are perceived as shouty and noisy, they tend to believe passionately in their cause while the other side tend to be slightly ashamed.

And? I was just pointing out that the trend he is observing isn't likely to continue.

Britain's economic growth has just slipped to the bottom of the G7 so don't expect that to last.

It's virtually unprecedented, the start of the campaign WAS Theresa May. Nobody else got a mention, now they're fighting tooth and nail to keep her from each and every media appearance.

I would probably agree with that analysis notwithstanding knowing nothing about any rumours around McDonnell and the IRA. Interesting he asked about those 3 and not Corbyn himself, who's popularity is absolutely infuriating Paul Dacre, or Barry Gardiner, MVP of the entire campaign on all sides or Andrew Gwynne another who has decimated various Tories during the campaign.

And now a Tory candidate has been charged over election fraud. Oh dear.

Perhaps they're preferable to the party whose leader refuses to sign a letter condemning Trump's withdrawal from the Paris agreement and whose manifesto offers unprecedented support for the fossil fuel industries whilst trousering £400k in donations from oil barons. just a thought.

One of them has charitable objectives so I do chair their Audit Committee pro bono. I'm surprised you are familiar with the concept.

Nobody's reading your hashtags you pretentious weapon. You claim to have come from the poorest background of anybody on this Board and to have paid more tax than most of us will pay in our lifetime, both of which are entirely beyond proof. You're just making stuff up, at least you've found your natural home politically.

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??you're on an Oldham message Board, claiming that you almost certainly come from a poorer background than everyone here is just your little fantasy isn't it. You cannot possibly know.