jimsleftfoot
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This 100%
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Maybe Dave has got a point, but equally unless he's done the numbers, there's no particular way Dave can prove that he is in the majority. If the 200 people on here polled representative of the fan base, probably not, but neither is a straw poll amongst collegues.
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Employers are not allowed to turn a person down for a job if they have a 'spent' conviction. To add, the conviction only becomes spent after a further rahabilitation period after the end of the actual sentence. For custodial sentences of 6-30 months the rehab period is 4 years. Therefore he can be turned down. Edit - Ched was jailed for 5 years which means his conviction can never actually be 'spent' (if i've read it right). https://www.gov.uk/exoffenders-and-employment
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Its being investigated for contempt of court.
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Rape Crisis (England and Wales)
jimsleftfoot replied to opinions4u's topic in The Andy Gorton Taproom
We would get greater traction if we set up our own Justgiving page. I was thinking of this yesterday but didn't have time. I've just had a look but the site seems to have a problem (same issue Crusoe?) -
It's not other people though. His own website is the flagship that the abuse is sailing behind.
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That could be because most of the articles published are opinion pieces rather than stories. The Mirror has one table for stories and a seperate table for opinions, guess what appears at the top of the opinions?
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Our morals help to inform our rights and vice versa, I can't see how you can seperate the two. I think many people will see this as fighting for womens rights hence why so many have signed the petitions.
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The thing with protest is that it loses its effect if you do it at home with no one watching. If Emily Davison chucked herself under a horse in a field with no one there, it would have been quite pointless. If you are going to rip up your tickets but not tell anyone, what would be the point exactly?
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The club is certainly not looking forward and it could help to push a generation of youngsters into the arms of the Manchester clubs.
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Despite what others are saying, I think there is the rather large chance that we could see protests by Womens Group's etc. at our games if we sign him.
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This isn't my opinion mate, it's what the register allows for and may not be applied to him (as I had said). Perhaps you should actually read what people say before commenting!!!
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Agreed, I don't think we should sign him but it seems strange that we have all these politicians giving their opinions. In which case they should be legislating or putting pressure on the FA and PFA to provide rules.
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A disqualification from working with Children is perhaps the main one (may not be an automatic condition). Given that we have a youth team and children attending matches, measures would have to be put into place to monitor him and ensure compliance.
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He hasn't served his sentence, he's out on licence and could potentially be returned to prison if he break any of the conditions. He's also listed on the sex offenders register.
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The issue is that Ched has no way of knowing himself because he did not give himself the opportunity to find out. Walking into a hotel room and asking for sex from a girl you have never met is by normal standards rather predatory. The girl may have said 'yes' but what if she felt intimidated to do so by Ched? On a very basic level, Ched is guilty of not doing enough to protect himself and had left himself open to arrest and conviction, which he ultimately was.
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Calm down mate. I wasn't quoting you I was repeating my initial point and I will again that the prosecution did not establish whether he was a witness or accessory as the prosecution chose not to present that case to the jury. This was the view of the judge that reviewed whether Ched had a right to appeal I.e. He was answering the same question that Playitlivo had asked.
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Yes that is what I gathered.
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But to be an accessory to a crime is. That point was never established because the case was never made by the prosecution for whatever reason.
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Yes perhaps so, the prosecution didn't present this case and so he was never prosecuted as an accessory. Perhaps they should have but perhaps they didn't want to give a lesser option.
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Clayton spent time with the girl beforehand and it could have been reasonable for him to think that consent was given. Ched walked in and straightaway wanted sex. The prosecution did not make a case for either of them being an accessory to the other. It was a case of trying them both seperatley for rape. At the hearing as to whether Ched could appeal, the Judge felt the jury's decision was reasonable.
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Yet he was not given leave to appeal.
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Since when are role models only good? Footballers are role models because they earn lots of money playing football and have models for girlfriends and therefore kids look up to them.
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Apple Store are doing a 0% finance deal at the moment until Jan 15th and I think the Iphone is covered. Over two years thats £22.45 a month for Iphone 6. Just need to add on whatever deal you can get from O2 on a phoneless plan, should be well under £58. Edit: 0% only available on up to 12 months.