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January 1st (Can play against Leeds I believe)

 

So if we renew Bertrand's loan after all, Chelsea will have no reason not to allow him to play in the FA Cup for us. But the fact he hasn't played in it so far suggests he won't stay.

It is unlikely Berty will stay, but IIRC the reason he wasn't allowed to play originally was because Chelsea were apparently planning on shipping him off to Leicester in January. Since then Megson has left and Olly has come in...if the new manager doesn't want him then hopefully Chelsea will allow him to finish the season at BP.

It's also vitally important if we are going to renew Kilkenny's loan that we do it before the Everton game. Aren't the rules that if he's on a one month loan then he can't be recalled immediately but any longer and there's a 24 hour recall? Or maybe it's the other way round. Whichever it is, it would be nice for Alex McGleish to do us a favour and let us renew his loan with a 24 hour recall in case they seal a permanent deal for him elsewhere.

I think the rule is that the suspension kicks in 7 days after the 5th yellow.

If that's the case then I wonder if Berty 'conveniently' gets booked against Walsall then his suspension will be for Everton as well, a game in which he wouldn't be allowed to play in anyway. If so it wouldn't be surprising if he boots the ball away after a foul in the last minute.

On a side note, what date are Berty and Killer's loans up?

Have to say i'm alittle disapointed. Forest were there for the takng but felt we gave them a little to much respect. Also, at times it felt that we were only playing hughes up-front, with Davies pretty much playing as a right winger.

 

Anyway, lets hope we can end this winless home streak on saturday!!!!!

Too much hoofball, which was strange especially bearing in mind that we'd hit the woodwork in the second minute from a move using width and passing on the ground.

No no no.

Is that a new thing for this year because it is the first i heard about it, and does it apply to only the chaddy end?

It was new for this season. It cost £13, just had to fill in a form and hand in a couple of passport photos. In return you get a membership card which upon display at the turnstiles gets you concessionary price. Can be used anywhere in the ground as well, I sit in the Lookers Upper.

I've got one of the best seats in the ground (NSM upper, front row, on halfway) and the reason i've still got that seat this season is because my Dad wanted to stay in the NSM in order to get first dibs on season tickets for the new stand. I like new initiatives which try to bring more money into the club such as the £1 games last season but it seems that season ticket holders get the bum end of the deal for these initatives without being compensated (I personally don't want much a free programme or 10% off in the shop for that day but it'd have been nice to have had soemthing). This year and last both my Dad and I didn't go to enough games to make a season ticket worthwhile but yet we still paid for one.

 

However when we brought our Doncaster tickets for the cup we both got in for concession prices my Dad recently got his bus pass so doncaster see him as an OAP (unlike Oldham) and I'm a student so i get in cheap as well (unlike Oldham where if you are in full-time employment and earning whatever money you can you get in cheap if you are under 19, but us students who are older- i'm 23 and on a course which has lasted a lot longer than 3 years- can't). This is something which i think the club could fix.

 

There are lots of things the club could do to make it fairer for someone but not for others (for example ticket prices could go up elsewhere as a result) and if people see loopholes and use them then that's fine by me i'd personally not do it because i'd have to live with a dishonest decision on my conscious and been a strong supporter of this club i'd rather not cheat them out of money. People will moan about it all the time but that is the way of life, but to have a go at people for some loophole when you may get benefit elsewhere is wrong.

 

Oh and btw i got soaked as well on saturday (albeit not as bad as others) but that's the price i pay for being on the front row.

The club deal on student prices is fair if you buy the student membership at the start of the year. I paid my £13 and now get in for a tenner at BP. I wouldn't say we're getting a raw deal.

I don't have the time or care that much to sift through videos on LaticsWorld and watch all the goals we've conceded, I've commented by looking at the fixture list and a tool I like to call my memory.

I don't think it was Crossley's fault against Luton and judging from the comments on the thread related to that goal I'm in the majority. Like you said it's subjective and if you think differently then fine, but if you're going to make a subjective statement yourself, that Crossley has been responsible for us losing 10 points this season, then try and back it up. I'm bemused as to how you 'honestly believe that he has cost us ten points this season' yet clearly can't remember the goals that he has actually conceded. It seems to me that you haven't thought about it at all and have just decided that he's useless and Shez should get rid.

It amazes me how despite the fact that our defensive record this year is excellent (6th best in the league), some people still find a need to whinge about the back line.

Crossley struggled at the start of the season but since he's come back he's played well and deserves his place in the team. Lay off.

Thats clearly ridiculous.

As ridiculous as your suggestion that Crossley has cost us 10 points this year? I noticed you didn't reply to that, but don't let the facts get in the way of your unnecessary and unjustified need to find a scapegoat.

The two saves that Crossley made were saves that you would expect any keeper to save. I think that peoples expectations have fallen so far, that bread and butter saves are classed as match-saving. As for the two that hit the crossbar, I only really got a good view of the one in front of the chaddy. The shot was nothing special and Crossley just watched it hit the crossbar, he totally misjudged it - he was very lucky. There was another shot which was straight at Crossley, but he decided to parry it over the bar for no obvious reason. His kicking was in the main, very very poor. I can't believe that Shez has done nothing to replace this guy. The guy is an absoulte liability. I honestly believe that he has cost us ten points this season. Crossley out.

What ten points were these?

We've lost points when Crossley's played to...

Carlisle (a) - penalty, not his fault

Bristol Rovers (h) - maybe should have caught the cross - ONE POINT

Hartlepool (a) - We got hammered, there's nothing he could have done about it

Southend (h) - Good finish from Leon

Leeds (h) - not his fault

Cheltenham (a) - penalty, and he was injured!

Vale (h) - great strike, not his fault

Luton (h) - poor marking, not his fault

Donny (h) - penalty

So on my watch, he's been responsible for us dropping one point. Not bad at all. A cursory glance and quick mental arithmetic at the table on the BBC website says we have the 6th best defence in the league.

Maybe it's the problems at the other end of the pitch that are responsible for us being 17th.

You are missing the point - the message was in the fact we said he could. Its not walsall we were making the statement to, it was Ricketts and the players in the team - you act like he did and you have no future here - as far as Shez and we are concered he is no longer our player - saying he could play would indicate we still give a damn about him...

Allowing him to play in the cup games was enough of a sign that he was out. Granted, he probably won't score against us, as some never failed to mention when he was here...his goalscoring record is poor. Yet, I still maintain he was harshly judged as his all round contribution was impressive.

Anyway, that's all in the past now, but it seems daft to allow him to have the chance to net against us, especially when he'll be itching to score on the back of how he was treated by some sections of the crowd here.

At least I've got myself a pint if he does though...

we limit teams to chances which are usually free kicks and corners and they all go to the 6 yard line because when we are scouted the scout notices this weakness.

Are you being serious? From what I can work out, looking at the fixture list...we've conceded the following goals this season from around the 6 yard line...

Bristol Rovers at home

2 X Hartlepool away

Luton at home

Granted, I haven't seen the Donny or Accy JPT goals.

The point remains though, we've conceded 4 goals in 4 months from balls across the 6 yard area. It's hardly a 'weakness'.

Open your eyes, the goal was not Crossley's fault. You even said it yourself...

if thats the case then fine but it doesnt alter the fact that norm doesnt catch crosses

..and then went back on it and said he should have claimed it. Get off his back.

Being a pedant, the answer is FIFA/ UEFA (or whoever is in charge of instigating the transfer window).

What he said...

Players will naturally raise their game when playing against former teams and trying to prove a point. It's absurd that we're allowing him to play against us. After all, it's not like Walsall wouldn't have taken him if we'd said that he couldn't play in one game.

People have said the club aren't stupid and there will be a number of clauses that allow us to get out of this three year contract, it makes you wonder when they haven't even put a clause in his loan deal which means he can't play against us...

And dont forget, and make the mistake I did, its only lower tier and paddock available at the moment. So if you are intent on upper tier you will have to wait.

FGG says the Upper Tier is better as there are no pillars obstructing your view...

Am I being slow? Where does it say we have 5,800 tickets?

I'd agree with Lags, would love an away day at the Emirates.

If we beat Crewe and draw a Premier League team...would you rather we played them at home (better chance of beating them (although given our form at the moment maybe not)), or away (big day out)?

I'd love a nice away day...

Oh, and I can't believe I forgot Johnny Eyre's winner against QPR after Dowie had left.

The Inspector's last minute goal at Bury has to be up there as well.

Guess who's back, back again...

Joy unconfounded

Following on from the thread below about Gregan's return (one day...)...

City in the Cup was mine, though again it's been years of nothing doom since I've been following us! My first game was when we beat QPR 4-1 the year we came down from the Premiership.

Another great memory up there was Eyresy's last minute winner at Stockport and his free kick to put us 1-0 up against QPR in the playoffs. At those moments I was 100% convinced we were going up...

...............as if by magic

 

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Well done to whoever thought that up, I think it could possibly be the easiest money making scheme I have ever heard of!

Private entrepreneurship at its best...

..... on second thoughts...How about Rob Scott?

Or even Mark Arber (he was a legend by the way, just ask him)...

The PFA have released a list of every club's best ever player. This is based on (stolen from BBC site)...

The results are based, firstly, on ‘A’ international appearances - and each appearance is awarded points that are weighted by the following criteria:

* Team played for – For example, appearances for more successful countries (Brazil and Argentina for example) count for more than less successful countries. Being in winning teams and progressing further in international competition also weighs heavier.

* More points from competitive matches over friendlies.

* Captaining your country earns more points.

* Appearances as substitute do not count as much as starts.

* Players who score goals, or keepers and defenders that keep clean sheets are awarded extra points.

Secondly, players pick up points when their team – at domestic or international level – achieves honours.

Thirdly, individual honours – such as FIFA World Player of the Year and English Football Writers’ Association Player of the Year – are also counted

Our best player, from this scientific approach, was Bert Lister.

I'm far too young to have ever seen Lister play, so I can't comment. But surely noone's better than Richie Wellens.

Interestingly, Neil Redfearn is Barnsley's best ever player. Rotherham's is RM. Stockport's is Luke.

So come on, who would you say was our best ever player?

Interesting reading...

 

"Was very poor last night wasnt it.Im sure JR will be upset with it but the club has to take some of the blame.

I kid you not the fact that you cant pay on the gate at the keepmoat knocks 2000 off the attendance of these games.

Any body who lives in Doncasters suburbs or even further like me just cant attend without monumental effort.

People just wont drive 25 miles and waste one and half hours just to get a ticket to do it all over again on matchday even if they dont work 9 hours a day.

Evening kick offs make it worse,as you dont have time to get home from work,scoff some tee,drive and then stand in line while the ticket office gives you a ticket miles from the group you normally sit with.

League games are the same as well,5000 season tickets means that only an average of 1500 people get tickets includeing away fans.

People can come on here and give one reason or another why you cant pay on the gate but the club agreed to this when the initial meetings about keepmoat took place and the fact still remains the club has lost a lot of money because of this..

Which is why people like me who have been s/t holders for years where sat in there armchairs looking at teletext."

 

They never heard of royal mail up there!

It is a ridiculous system, there's no reason as to why there shouldn't be pay on the gate. When I first read you had to get a ticket I thought it would be because the new ground had those automatic turnstiles like they have at COMS. Yet I got a paper ticket from the Donny TO and just handed it to the guy standing in front of the turnstile. It's not that much effort to ask said gentleman to stand on the side of the turnstile and push his foot down when he's given money.