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But which would you put the armband on Big Dog?

No bloody wonder on here at the moment

I'm positive we will finish just above the bottom 3!

Brilliant! Have you ever thought of seeing if the Samaritans need a helping hand?

Does Matts Great Great Grandad hanker for the good times of 1914? In fact anything less than second in the top flight is a failure as that is what we acheived 97 years ago. That Joe Royle, what a load of rubbish - he never acheived that!

I also understand that Oldham isn't the largest centre for cotton spinning in the world anymore , just when will the good time return?

I am just at a loss as to how we can start jumping to the conclusions which we are doing so soon.

We have played a whole 2 games!! One against Sheff Utd where we more than matched them in the first half and heads dropped after an early silyy goal and a second game finishing on a par after 120 mins with a team that we should be there or thereabouts with.

This is a new season and a different team with different personnel. Lets see where we are when we have played 5 games in the league eh. The comments at the moment are ridiculous. I could have swore Matt Smith hit the cross bar twice on Tuesday. Fair enough you get nothing for that in a game but I am sure this lad will start to score goals and become a real handful.

Wasn't Stephens criticised last season by many for passing sideways? I'm sure he was. As for goals, lack of them has been pretty much endemnic since our Premiership days with a few players managing to pop more than average away (McCarthy, Porter, Beckett, Hughes) but not exactly something whoch has happened to us recently.

So far I have seen nothing to suggest that we will struggle to hit a midtable position and improve over last season. Some people really need to get a grip!

Yes, I'm not feeling Taylor either if what you hear is to be believed (hard to talk to etc) obviously I can't vouch for any rapport he may have with his team mates. Diamond hands down for the captaincy on the pitch though

Correct me if i am wrong but are we not 2 games into a new season?

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I think you have missed the point Sly is making here. Furman isn't a captain in the Gregan mould where he would organise the troops from the back, being vocal and dishing out the odd bollocking whereas Furman is a roll the sleeves up, get stuck in and come on team follow me in doing this captain.

I see Diamond being very similar to Gregan in this respect. I think we all know what a club captain is.... now where is that face palm???

It is nowhere near as bad as people are making out!!!!!

Tonks was a good servant but no more effective than Smith will be. it is all about thast elusive 20 goal a season man!

To be honest folks I think the front line is pretty much sorted now with Reid, Parker and Smith. Unless the addition is someone with guaranteed goalscoring credentials then I wouldn't bother.

We need bolstering down the left hand side ideally. Someone like Aidy White who can fill both roles

<br />Personally I think Diamond would make a better captain and let Furman get on with his job, however taking if off him now may be counter productive so we will have to see how he handles it in the next month or so.<br />

Definately, Diamond has shown himself to be a real leader and would be my natural choice however it had already been handed to Dean. The communication was all over the place when Zander went off. I would pick an opportunity such as an injury/suspension to hand it over or it may even have to wait until next season (providing we are able to extend his deal) Let Furman concentrate on buzzing around and let Diamond instruct from the back

<br />Is the captaincy affecting his game ?..he looks to be struggling when the chips are down.<br />

Like the rest of team? Not often you post anything positive BP but agree Furman was poor.

Gone for Reid for us. Lee didn't put a foot wrong and was what you have come to expect from the consistency this lad has brought to his game.

Agree with the sentiments about Zoko, a right handful but special mention to their left back Roberts. One of the toughest competitors I have seen for a long time. Hard but fair and a few Latics players thought twice about going in for a challenge with him

Yep, some people going way over the top wth the abuse he is getting. Was all over the pitch last night, out wide putting in crosses, tracking back and closing down. Mom for me. Screaming for parker to come on when the midfield arent in the game wont solve anything. We lost our shape and organisation 2nd half and carlisle gave us the runaround

why not...some boards sack managers after one game...

 

see how it pans out...no goals by 60th min get parker on....

Do they???!!! Perhaps we should sack dickov then

Why? Hardly a surprise. He will get his chance soon enough. Youcant drop someone after 1 gamei

We really needed Lund to feature in this game too in order for him to get match practice in.

Against the Faroe Islands also, just what is the point! I can see the difference for this lad playing over Feeny but it is a bit of a pain!

Is he meant to finish the deliveries now too?

He did ok for his first game, yes his deliveries were inconsistent but he won a few headers and looked to play it simple. Nobody has mentioned the ball he hit out to the right wing first half. He will improve and looks to be a better prospect than lowe or mantom were. I remember that a certain dean furman didn't exactly excell at first. He will get better with games and his 1st match was against one of the stronger sides in the division. Even dale stephens had his moments when he couldn't get the ball past the 1st man on corners!

If we resolve this matter with the spanish lad then he will be back up.

Maybe it was my fault for giving them the benifit of the doubt thinking that they would have a day off for a friendly.

I agree Razza, what was with all the Dingly noises they were making when a player of ours went down. Most noticebly Diamond in their box. It's just backwards

Ha Satans Bint - class. Not forgetting the sister of Robin too

With the Blackpool and Burnley games coming up I see nothing happening before those are concluded.

I cant see the marquee signing coming through, not on a permanant basis anyway, a trialist and a loanee or two should complete our squad.

Midfield worries me. The best performances came when we had lewi and Jones out wide and obviuosly Stephens has gone. I like Morais but we don't have the stability we did 1st half of last season. Furman needs a partner sharpish!

I can't beleive they have hit 200 after the early wickets

Gregan is a legend simply for keeping that gob:censored:e Beckford in his back pocket! I can't believe people are trying to belittle his impact.

Definately in my top ten

Auschwitz is a definate, it is about an hour and a half away. It is the scale that really hits you with it, a very solemn and sombre place.

Watch out for pickpockets. I have travelled to a lot of cities and I am usually on my guard but managed to be without phone and wallet after about 2 hours. Wavel Castle is good for a look round. Try the old ghetto for bars. It was where the Jewish population were incarcerated during the second world war. Now becoming trendy with some different drinking establishments. The football grounds are within walking distance and have recently undergone an upgrade for the Euros so worth a wander.

The large square is apparently one of the biggest in Europe. Polish women are very hot! Old town is quaint. Cherry rum is a speciality drink and you can get this after a meal. I had a potato cheese and onion dish which was fantastic, i can't remember what it was called but the majority of food is like this.

Enjoy!

We'd be foolish not to give him a chance seeing as we don't exactly have an embarrasment of riches in the striking stakes.

as has been said before though he needs to put us first and Norn Ireland second. He needs a run also. Lets see what he can do if he remains injury free pre season unlike last year. He started to look more effective towards the end of the season and his experience and seniority is something that this squad needs.

As long as he puts a shift in we can start to put last seasons huge disapointment behind us.