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Hard to judge off a handful of performances.

 

While we're on the subject of players who aren't good enough, what about David 'double amputee' Mellor?

 

Best second full back in the league. One half of the worst left sided pairing I've ever seen at BP.

 

Still bewildered as to how he kept his place in the starting line up after Brentford.

 

And can someone explain to me how he was back on dead ball duties after Tuesday?

He's a definite threat from set pieces. To those sat behind the goal.

It seems the Latics have been lacking a cutting edge in the last 3 games, will it all come good or are changes necessary ?

How many did we score on Tuesday?

I think we are acting a little too hasty with Sid. Rome wasn't built in a day. This one could come back and bite us in the back like a Chris O'Grady type.

Schit happensh. Sounds like there's more to it than just being crap. I wish him well but we need a solution out wide especially with Dayton out, so moving things around to free up some wages for the second half of the season scheems schenschible.

The only comfort I take from today is that I have a new name to chuck in the hat for the annual summer 'Worst Latics loan signings' thread.

I've just been to Greggs, had two sausage rolls, finish work in 45 minutes or so.......

 

 

jeez talk about life stories with Piers Morgan.

I've still not got mine. I'll be live tweeting from the queue on Monday if anyone wants to find out how I get on.

Michel Vonk was class.

''Til we play.....

And when he saw the Oldham....

We play in blue and.....

We love you Oldham.....

Come on Oldham.....

There's five I bet we hear over the next few weeks. And they'll be heard louder than anything else suggested.

Kenny Clements taught me to drive a fair few years back now, but he'd been a long haul HGV driver before turning to instructing.

I'm lovin' all this positive stuff at the moment, but I can't help wondering what it would be like if we'd lost on Tuesday.

Would you care to elaborate?

I got 124.

Family outing?

There's 4 games between now and Anfield. Lots of kids will be getting giddy about Liverpool, but all I'd like is at least 6 points before then. Is that too much to ask?

I really hope we have a go. Before losing at Carlisle they'd had 8 wins and a draw (that being against Wolves) on the spin. They must be strong, but hopefully a little unsettled by the change in manager.

My hunch is that we're entering the sort of territory often described as "a game too far", with a bit of steam running out in our recent performances. Having said that, being away from home may help to release some pressure and Brentford will come at us rather than sitting in. Fight fire with fire and really go for it.

I think Dayton's a big miss, but it's up to others to step up. Plenty have done it before and they need to take their chance.

Come on Latics.

See you on the 8.55 if anyone's getting it.

The 'Devestated' and 'Getting off my chest' threads over the last 24 hours have made me very glad to realise that I don't get half as emotional as some about this club. I'd hate to react to news and results in the way some do.

We've been to Wembley twice in nearly 120 years of history. If you want to go, you should have chosen your team more wisely. Enjoy the ride. We're doing ok at the minute. We could go through the rest of 2013 losing every game (I think that's quite possible). We could be looking at the top 10 and a trip to Anfield by the end of the month (I think that's quite possible too).

We've been in many Decembers before now with no such hope at all left in our season. Enjoy it, don't get beaten up by it.

I can think of at least 15 seasons where I've felt worse in the last 23 years of watching them.

What are the ticket allocation arrangements for the final, anyone?

Can someone save me some time and just send me a DVD of the full 90 minutes? Cheers.

Latics 2-3 Crystal Palace, 21 September 1991 - no recollection of it, just looked it up.

It was my sixth game, and a day short of a full year after my first ever game Middlesbrough 0-1 Latics (Palmer).

A lot of this comes down to your impressionable years, I was a 13 year old when Groves started playing for us, so after school or in the playground when there were about 40 of us trying to kick :censored: out of an old peice of leather or a bundle of rags inside a sock, I always wanted to be Grovesy. Beat everybody 3 times and make them look foolish, of course I ended up on my arse, being kicked for not passing, but you get my drift. It is a never ending argument But first impressions cut deepest.

Very true - it's definitely those that give you the bug that stay closest to your heart.

I'm 29 now, and went to my first game when I was 4. So I was quite young when we were really ace. But I do remember Andy Ritchie (will always be my number 1 - even if we signed Messi) being absolutely awesome, and Roger, and tricky Ricky and all that. And they were great.

 

So I've also seen every god damn awful season that we have been stuck in this division. And it has been horrible. If it wasn't for John Sheridan and David Eyres, I don't think I could have coped. They are by far and away the best players we have had in this division in my view.

 

Eyres is fully deserving of his place on that list for me. And if Eyres is on it, then Sheridan must get on it.

 

Eyresy was a joy to watch. It is right what people say that the signing of Sheridan kept us up. But the same can be said for the season when Eyres signed. When he signed at 35, I thought he would be past it and we might get a season or 2 out of him. Little did I know that 6 or 7 years later he would still be turning out, still be fit as a fiddle, and still be the best player on the park.

 

Shez deserves to be on it because he was simply magnificent. He kept us up on his own. And people like him and Eyresy can be credited with keeping the club alive. They turned up to training when they didn't have a job during that summer when we went into admin. They could have easily just walked away and found work coaching or playing elsewhere, but they stuck by us. And then Sheridan came out of retirement because we had no players, and he will pay for that in later life because there is no way his legs were up to it. Yet he was still brilliant, even if he couldn't move from the centre circle. And despite his managerial reign ending badly, he is still one of only 2 managers to even come close to getting us out of this hell hole of a division.

 

I understand the point of view that some of the older posters have about certain players being better and more deserving, and Eyresy (and hopefully Shez) only being on the list for the younger fans. But the younger fans do make up a sizeable chunk of the fanbase, so I think their (our) heroes should be up there too.

My first reaction to the list of 9 was positive, other than wondering how, if Eyres was on there, Sheridan could be omitted.

In my 27 years he's the best I've seen. No other player had the ability to orchestrate a game like he could. We were dire when he first arrived but regardless of whether we played a team at the top or bottom of the table, he was the stand out player.

Having been dragged along quite willingly through my childhood to BP and beyond, when my teenage years arrived and I could have told my Dad I didn't want to go anymore as we were crap, up turned Shez. He showed me the game could be good to watch, skillful, creative, and that there were players out there, rarely seen at BP who could play the game in a different way, naturally and at ease. Ever since, all I've wanted is to see more like him, but I could have a while to wait yet.

After keeping us up whilst partially able to move, his return to the fold against medical advice at Hillsborough in 2003, when we were at our lowest ebb at the end of Dowie's reign, is the biggest physical sacrifice I can remember anyone paying for my club. For that alone, the club will always owe him.

He did that because he cared about a club he'd joined late on. He was loved at Leeds, loved at Wednesday, he didn't need us, but he showed a passion and committment for a decade or so as a player, then as a coach, then again as a player who couldn't run, as caretaker manager, reserve team manager and finally as the top dog that for me, hasn't been matched, or even come close to being matched by anyone, player, staff or otherwise since the glory days.

Since relegation in 94, Shez is the brightest light I can remember at BP, and for that, whether he makes it into a stand I'll never sit in or not (I'm a Chaddy Ender), he's my Latics hero, and he's yet to be bettered. Build the man a statue. He was different class.

Lee Johnson's management career is much like his childhood. No clean sheets since his Dad gave him one in April.

Brown isn't in the squad guys.

Richard Wright.

He swapped Wellens for The Crab at 2-0 up.

Worked out well.

If they finish above us we're in trouble. But I think we'll be in trouble anyway, so yeah, we're in trouble.

Hasnt got the quality for Championship in terms of pace or first touch. Great in the air and should be. Clumsy at times and strong at Div1. Should be interesting.

I thought he was quick. His pace often got us out of jail last year after his/another's clanger. Definitely clumsy, though that got less common towards the back end of last season.

We're much weaker for not having him in my opinion, and I'd look at our back line now as manager of any other team in the division and think we're a very soft touch. The opposition will tower above us in the tunnel and that's an advantage that we've gifted to opponents a lot in the last 20 years. M'Voto was one of the few whose sheer physicality was intimidating. We've not replaced that and I think it counts for a lot when our skill levels will be much the same as any other side.