dave_ragg1984

It's become a national version of the Manchester Senior Cup. If they force us to play strong teams against reserve sides, then that is a disgrace.

I won't be going to any game in this competition. Be it agains Manchester United reserves or Sheffield United's first team.

Just makes the promised land further away...

Why? We finished 17th this season, which is 41st in the football league. When they do the shake up we'd just have to make sure we finished in the top 16, and then the promised land is just as far away as it is now.

When/If it comes into effect wouldn't some clubs lose out on promotion?

Depends how they did it I suppose. For the season before, they would have to have something for clubs to play for. So maybe something like 2 up, 6 down to even it out?

Red isn't nonsense to me.... Nor is green. We wore both in the mid eighties when I was a boy and so I am fond of both.

The only people who should wear green are goalies.

Because it will make no difference? Like every year; we do not have the finances to influence the design. Man United, as one of the richest clubs in the world, have to concede on design choices - how in the :censored: can we expect to influence them?

They could just ask us what colour away kit we want.

I don't understand why we don't just have 3 kits which are always the same colour, with a slight redesign. Blue home, tangerine away, white third. Colours that a lot of fans can identify with. None of this red nonsense, or green, or bloody fluo yellow.

Scraton came across unbelievably well in the BBC documentary this week, which is tough viewing but a must watch on iPlayer if anybody missed it.

ESPN, not BBC.

Its actually a couple of years old, was shown in the US just as the inquests started, but wasn't allowed to be shown over here until the inquests had ended. They updated it to show the inquest verdicts.

They also edited some of the visuals from what was shown when it aired in America, which was for the best i think.

A tremendous piece of TV, but very distressing.

Can't agree there, I think the tactics were essentially set up to make sure we didn't concede first and foremost and then try and nick a goal and defend the lead.

 

Swindon, Walsall and even Crewe managed to knock the ball around confidently even on a poor surface.

 

Shez simply had to get points on the board and along with Shirtliff has done a fantastic job in difficult circumstances, however, the football has generally not been too pleasing on the eye and I would hope that next season will bring a more expansive and attacking style which can hopefully get us up near the other end of the table and encourage the lost fans and floaters to come back and support the club at BP!

Can disagree with me all you want and thats fair enough, but Sheridan said himself that he would want to pass the ball around a lot more but its difficult on this surface.

There were plenty of games, especially with Holloway in the team, where we were just lumping it up to him. Thats not a Sheridan way of playing, and I'd be amazed if for one, that wasn't because of the conditions, and two, we set out to play like that next season.

The results have been good, but its not been pretty. (Thats not a complaint btw, it was needs must). I'm hoping next season the level of desire remains, but the quality of football improves. I want to see us get at teams more and create more chances, and I'd be amazed if Sheridan doesn't have us keeping the ball on the deck a lot more. If that happens, results will continue to come.

I think the tactics, especially at home, were dictated by the horrendous state of the playing surface.

Some crash this

https://youtu.be/hFkBJZmVVc8

It astonishes me that with all the information that is freely available about how the disaster happened, people still believe the lie pedalled by the police that it was caused by drunken ticketless fans.

There were ticketless fans at the game. But no more than any other game of that magnitude. And no more than what the police should be expected to cope with.

The overcrowding at the turnstiles wasn't caused by people without tickets. But by the fact that 10,000 people had to enter through only 7 turnstiles, and poor policing and organisation run by an inexperienced match commander led to massive congestion at the turnstiles and there not being a chance that they would all get in by 3pm.

And then add in the other factors that lead to that deadly crush. And then there is the pathetic response to the disaster as it was ongoing and afterwards by the police and the emergency services.

But no, its easier to just slag off the group of people you don't like and ignore any facts. For whatever reason, people will believe what they want to believe.

One thing I really don't like about a lot of football fans is that they don't see and treat fans of other clubs as the same as themselves. A lot of people don't like Liverpool fans and instead of seeing this as another, and the worst, example of the authorities treating football fans (us) on the whole like :censored:, they just see it as just Liverpool fans who deserve it. But this whole sorry episode isn't just about Liverpool fans. It could have been any of us. A year later we were in the FA Cup Semi final, so really, it could have been us in that situation.

This victory today, albeit a quarter of a century too late, is a victory for those families who will now hopefully get some serious justice for the killing of their loves ones. And its a victory for those supporters who had been accused wrongfully of causing the deaths of their fellow fans. As human beings, we should be glad that those families get a bit of closure and will hopefully now get justice. And as football fans we should all be glad that fellow football fans, whose scarf might be a different colour and who we might see as friends or rivals (depending on your view), will get some justice for their tragic loss of life and have been cleared of causing it.

No person should ever got to a football match and lose their life because of the incompetence of the people who should be protecting them.

Just out of interest, does any statto know how clean sheets Coleman has kept? He seems to have kept a fair few in the forty odd appearances he's made.

A quick scan on Soccerbase says 17 in 40 starts.

What if Sheff Utd, Bristol City and other bigger clubs than us were in for him and he said he was signing for us because he felt he owed us after the first time round...??

If anything, he will feel like telling us to piss off because we messed him about.

Out of curiosity is there a scenario where Evans could end up back in prison? Say the retrial goes against him, could the judge impose a longer sentence than the previous one resulting in Evans having to go back to prison to serve the difference?

It would be funny if they went all FA on him and extended his prison sentence because of a frivolous appeal.

I'll give Rosa the credit for this one, but IMO its best one (biased because I love the Coral.)

We'll stay up again, relying on Curtis Main!

If I had used the example of £300 compared with £600, would that have made you feel better about yourself?

Is that for one person or two?

Single person supplement?

I don't think they do them on imaginary holidays.

It was for 2 people not per person

Thats why it only cost him 3 grand, cos he was on his own.

'Almost'... It was always in there.

£300 is 50% more than £200. That's not 'almost' twice as much.

Can you also send a Poo by Proxy?

 

If I send one, it will have turned to dust and will have lost its effect by the time it gets there. Australia Post are hopeless.

FedEx it?

Currently watching Leicseter City on TV. Ended last season in a similar way to we are ending this.

 

Just saying.

I don't think we will win the Premier League next season.

how many would we of took to wallsall at this stage of the season if we were third in the league over 1500 would me my guess so correct a poor turn out from them for sure

How many would we have taken there if that was an away game yesterday, in the position we're in? We'd have taken 1200-1500 I think.

I expected at least 1000 of them. Very disappointing.

 

If he does well with us and a Sheff Weds or another Championship club, or a big League One club for that matter, come calling he'll be off and rightly so.

 

He won't do a Johnson to Barnsley though........

I don't know which big League One club he would go to. Its not like he'd want to got to Sheffield United, or be very welcome. Couldn't see him going somewhere like Coventry.

Wednesday or Leeds though, I could see being very attractive to him.

I agree when we appointed Dunn, Kelly was slightly different as our "recruitment search" had happened in the months when Shez was chasing promotion with Plymouth.

 

However when Shez's name was mentioned here after Kelly was sacked there was still a fair amount of people on here who said no thanks. Probably more than half.

 

Corney and the board screwed things up massively last year and picked the wrong managers, but picking Shez at the time wasn't a black and white choice.

We could have just picked a proper manager in the summer though, if not Sheridan. A proper manager all season and we would be 10 points better off now, easily.

Wait have FC stolen one of our flags too!?

FC? :censored:ing FC? Which FC?

You don't need oxygen and strapping for a sprain as a rule.

They were saying on GMR that is isn't just oxygen what they give them. They did say the name of it, and I can't remember it, but basically its got a painkiller mixed in with it.