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Wouldn't read too much in - basically same as last year with the blanks filled in. Suspect it means one-in, one-out from now on.

 

01 Brill

02

03 Jacobson

04 Worthington

05 Holdsworth

06 Hazell

07 Jones

08 Smalley

09 Abbott

10 Purdie

11 Jarrett

12 Lomax

13 Fleming

14 Furman

15 Alessandra

16 Gregan

17 Feeney

18 Taylor

19 Lee

20 Stephens

21 Black

22 Brooke

23 Ollerenshaw

24 Millar

25 Colbeck

26 Bembo-Leta

27 McGrath

28 Eaves

29 Dickov

30 Fodor

31 Floszmann

 

Possibly a new number two signing?

lee offered no.2 but chose to keep his own no.

yeah me too.its really dragging now

+1 but i hope your wrong!

Two-year deal, no way. Too big a question mark over his injuries for that.

+1

It doesn't but he's got throat cancer and he looks beyond cachexic he will be at least a weekly visitor to hospital. In fact looking at him, and this is going to sound blunt, I'd be amazed if he lasts to Christmas.

such a shame,my all time favourite player

Its sort of a combination (as far as I understand it)

If a normal person heart (muscle) size is x

A normal person who trains a lot (thus making the heart bigger) their heart is x+y (which isn't dangerous)

A non sportsperson with HOCM their heart is x+z (where z is normally bigger than y) (which is quite dangerous)

A sportsperson with HOCM thier heart is x+y+z (which is very dangerous). HOCM is gentically linked and is dominant in its inheritance (so if a parent has it you would be quite lucky not to have it).

 

This is where the problem arises is that a person with HOCM will have very good cardiovascular fitness (so are often quite good at sport) so when you add on training it becomes more deadly but its not readily detectable (or can be masked by the added effects of regular training) (some top heart doctors will usally be able to notice but that's not the sort of doctor who does our medicals)- hence the need for specific tests. If you think of the heart like a balloon being blown up against a wall (ribs and what not) if you have HOCM the ballon hits the wall and can't enlarge any more (or goes pop). Its not just HOCM where an echocardiogram is useful I can think of two footballers (one of whom played for Oldham) where an echo proved the doctor's suspicions about their heart and they had life-saving treatment.

 

I wouldn't go as far as screening every footballer every year; once a lifetime ought to be enough- I'd have screened all the youngsters we just signed and would have screened any new transfer (especially if we had paid money for them)- if I KNEW they hadn't been done- but maybe that's me and I will always air on the side of caution in such matters. Its just sad IMHO that a screening test which isn't all that unpleasant and isn't very expensive to be done privately (about a grand I would guess) is not routine and it has cost at least two footballers (that I can think of- one hadn't quite made it but was close to doing so and his dad was pretty good- his sister was quite athletic too) their lives. HOCM is not common in the general population but it does seem to have increased risk amongst professional sportspeople.

thankyou for that very interesting..so would you say if a young footballer had already had a heart scan or whatever test they do and was passed as normal they should be clear of this illness full stop

This is sad RIP.

 

But when you say 22 year olds shouldn't drop dead of a heart attack you are right but it does happen. Eardley's brother (Sean was it) had heart trouble, Marc Vivien Foe died of a heart problem (probably the same one Idrizaj died of- HOCM (essentially his heart is too big and doesn't pump properly)). I'm amazed the number of professional sportspeople (often its a footballer) who have died from a heart attack (or have had trouble with thier heart) and yet echocardiograms (which pick this thing up quite well) are not routine in footballer's medicals (and IMHO they should be)

is this something that can just come on or is it something your born with

Clicked on that with some trepidation due to reading it as 'Keigan gets another year.'

good luck danny hope you get sorted soon

Ah, forgot we had a good contact for all things Kieran Lee on the boards – I may well have got this wrong but is it that KL is the boyfriend of your daughter???

 

Can you confirm that we have indeed offered him a new contract? And that he wants to resign if the terms are agreeable?

 

Cheers

Sly

yes

And would he?

no

No. If we offer a contract and he accepts elsewhere we will get a fee because he is under 24.

not sure how this works but the clause in his contract says we can keep him another year if we wanted,however if the new contract is for less money i would have thought he could say no

The only thing I would say is up for debate is how much. Not if we want him.

 

I can't think he'll want much of a raise, but I doubt he was on a small amount to start with.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if we offer him less than his current deal then he can walk for nowt, can't he?

he won,t be getting a raise

Why? He's done all in the two years he's been here, the finally decides to show 'promise' in the last few months before his contract is up.

 

Get rid.

thats a bit unfair not had much chance to show what he can do whilst fully fit,he is one that the return of the ressies has helped

6-3

gordon brown stepped down

gone for gregan well deserved after a great season

So is Kieron unhappy that the club have payed for a manager to leave while not getting his bonus?

no

please not gannon

ditto

when was the last time a club in our league gave out a 5-year contract? it cant of happened that often

no don,t think it does tbh i am surprised eaves signed a 5 year deal its a long time to tie yourself down good for the club though

happy birthday pal..now life begins so they say

Bang on the money for me! Well said.

+2

Its wrong, Parents look after their kids not agents.... The FA should ban under 17's from having an agent

to be fair the parents usually wouldn,t have the contacts an agent has,if your child doesn,t get offered a scholarship at 16 an agent would work to try to find them a new club

I'll give Penney his chance after seeing some of the worst football I have ever seen this season.

 

Hopefully it can improve.

 

However can we please let someone else make the signings as they have been woeful.

 

Parker - Bobbins

Worthington - sirbookedalot

Purdie - little miss poorly bear

Jacobson - Play-a-few-games-be-very-average-feel-like-I've-done-enough-kick-back-and-relax

Abbott - Mr keep one step ahead by doing a little better than the rest of that shower of :censored:e.

Brill - Spoon hands

Aljofree - One game one kill BOOM

Furman - one has played oneself out of the world cup

Colbeck - I'm going run straight, straight as an Arrow

Holdsworth - Could play, would rather sit with my mates in the physio room.