RoytonLatics Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 @BBCSport: BREAKING: Sunderland have "parted company" with boss Paolo Di Canio, the club confirm in a statement on their website #safc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 I'd just like to mention that I predicted he'd be the first Prem manager to lose his job and he'd be gone before the end of November. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanuts Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 knowing our luck kuokash would take over and install this pillock as a marqui manager Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimsleftfoot Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 knowing our luck kuokash would take over and install this pillock as a marqui manager In all fairness, if that was to happen it would suggest we would have a bit of moolah to spend! It won't though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pukka Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Di Canio's style of picking fights with top level players doesn’t work any more. In the lower leagues it can do. The players lower down need the money and will put up with it. Plus he could always say to the players. ”I was a top player cos I did this – now you do it”. Players like John O Shea and Giaccorini (sp) have been at big clubs, been successful and have not worked like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveoafc Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 His appointment was always a car crash waiting to happen!... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Ritchie Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Shocking appointment. Ripped the values out of the club for a few extra column inches. I bet the board are regretting this big time. In fairness to Di Canio though. He has made 12 poor to average signings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 It's not even as if he was even a top top player. He travelled around making more headlines for being an arse than his playing, Celtic were the only really big club he was at and that didn't last. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTM Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Good riddance to bad fascists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Scratch2000uk Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 His political views aside i thought he was a passionate hungry manager and honest about his players and their performances. Probably more at fault are the players and their disgust at being labeled undisciplined, egotistical obnoxious or temperamental both on and off the pitch, Sunderland will get a new manager who doesn't do all those things that Di Cano did, but suspect they will eventually end up with the same fate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 (edited) As far as I'm concerned it has nothing to do with his alleged political views. I couldn't care less about them, they have no relevance whatsoever to his role as a football manager. And are you seriously telling me that the likes of John O'Shea are too soft to take honest and deserved criticism? How many Fergie hairdryers do you think he faced in a decade at Old Trafford? Di Canio's colossal ego, habitual bullying of staff and players, public humiliation of individual players, publicly blaming the players for poor performances while bigging up his own management credentials. All of these things make a catastrophically bad manager. Niall Quinn put it about as clearly as anyone: "When you're in a battle you need a leader who you all look up to and want to go into a fight with you. "Paolo Di Canio was ducking out of the battle by blaming the players and saying what a great manager he was." Edited September 24, 2013 by garcon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Scratch2000uk Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 As far as I'm concerned it has nothing to do with his alleged political views. I couldn't care less about them, they have no relevance whatsoever to his role as a football manager. And are you seriously telling me that the likes of John O'Shea are too soft to take honest and deserved criticism? How many Fergie hairdryers do you think he faced in a decade at Old Trafford? Di Canio's colossal ego, habitual bullying of staff and players, public humiliation of individual players, publicly blaming the players for poor performances while bigging up his own management credentials. All of these things make a catastrophically bad manager. Niall Quinn put it about as clearly as anyone: "When you're in a battle you need a leader who you all look up to and want to go into a fight with you. "Paolo Di Canio was ducking out of the battle by blaming the players and saying what a great manager he was." From the likes of Fergie? yes, Di Cano isn't in the same league. Of course everything would have been hunky dory if he had praised the players at every opportunity wouldn't it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 (edited) Of course everything would have been hunky dory if he had praised the players at every opportunity wouldn't it. That wooshing sound is the point flying straight over your head (although I suspect you ducked). A good manager will back his players to the hilt in public. If he feels it necessary he will even publicly take the blame to deflect it from the players. He does this so that he retains their support when he needs to get them ready for the next match. Occasionally a good manager will criticise his players as a whole group, "we weren't good enough." Very rarely, maybe after a stupid red card, he might answer a direct question by saying the player knows he's made a mistake. A good manager will keep the hairdryer exclusively for private use behind securely locked doors. He may angrily confront players individually or collectively in private to leave them in no doubt as to his expectations. He will then work with them to coach and encourage and develop, to support them in improving as individuals and as a team. A good manager does not embark on a relentless campaign of bullying and belittling his players, berating them about how good he is and how poor they are, he does not remove any possibility of rest and recuperation between games by unpredictably demanding they report for random training training sessions, he does not publicly slate and privately excommunicate individual players, he does not give the board random, ego-induced ultimatums and he does not confront the fans like some preening peacock with a hard on. It doesn't matter whether it's football or the office or a military camp. In his time at Swindon and Sunderland Di Canio has displayed just about every possible characteristic of bad management. His ego always far outshone his ability as a player, it's in an entirely different galaxy to his absolute lack of ability as a manager. Edited September 24, 2013 by garcon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Scratch2000uk Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Sunderlands decision makers they knew all about Di Canio's management style before they hired him...Whooooosh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Sunderlands decision makers they knew all about Di Canio's management style before they hired him...Whooooosh! As Alan Shearer said on MotD2, one - perhaps naively - assumes they did their due diligence. Di Canio hasn't changed, so they really should have known what to expect. I did - I had it down as a very quick car crash from day one. The fact the Sunderland board made a stupid decision in the first place doesn't make Di Canio any less a bad manager. Chairman Ellis Short's recent judgement doesn't look great, but then everybody expected Martin O'Neill to be the saviour, fans, pundits and all. The other element we don't really know is how many of the 14 summer signings were Di Canio's and how many were brought in by the Director of Football (can't remember his name). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Scratch2000uk Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 As Alan Shearer said on MotD2, one - perhaps naively - assumes they did their due diligence. Di Canio hasn't changed, so they really should have known what to expect. I did - I had it down as a very quick car crash from day one. The fact the Sunderland board made a stupid decision in the first place doesn't make Di Canio any less a bad manager. Chairman Ellis Short's recent judgement doesn't look great, but then everybody expected Martin O'Neill to be the saviour, fans, pundits and all. The other element we don't really know is how many of the 14 summer signings were Di Canio's and how many were brought in by the Director of Football (can't remember his name). I suspect even Fergie would have struggled to keep his job at Sunderland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Apparently Sunderland are now looking for a "track suit manager". Is this because they've realised that Mackems feel threatened by someone in a suit? (Odds now massively cut on Gus Poyet. I wonder what language he and his Italian DoF will communicate in?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolatic Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 (edited) My younger step son lives in Swindon and is a regular at the County Ground. It came as no surprise to him when Di Canio left as he always thought he was bigger than the club. He publicly stated that he had got Swindon promoted from League 2, established them in League 1 and had no more to prove. I quote "The players were the protagonists, but I did a fantastic job". He was, in his own eyes, fully qualified to manage in the Premiership. Again, I quote. "Paolo Di Canio has declared his readiness to manage in the Premier League by insisting his time with the ‘arrogant and average’ players of League One and Two has taught him valuable lessons." I bet the Swindon boys just loved that. Arrogant? Look at yourself, Paulo. Read any of his quotes and they nearly all centre around himself. When he got the Sunderland job, my step son said straight away that he would be sacked before Christmas if he didn't change his ways. He constantly, and publicly, crucified his own players. It was pretty well known that he managed them by belittling them, but never criticised himself. Sorry, but I have to disagree with those who think he had a rough deal at Sunderland. The biggest mistake was giving him the job in the first place when they knew what his style was. Edited September 24, 2013 by Bristolatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.