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I always felt that Warnock was harshly treated by Oldham fans and the board. He came to us with a good reputation, taking on a crap squad that looked doomed and he gave us a fighting chance. He then got next to no money, yet we was competing for a play off spot for most of the season. When asked about why we weren’t in a play off spot he pointed out the real reason blaming the board and saying the clubs got absolutely no ambition and he was bang on! Probably why the board didnt like him! Didn’t deserved the sack to be honest..... I think it was his personality and style of football that didn’t go down well.

Depends on the kid.... I would say 5 is a minimum....they just arent going to stay intrested long enough / understand whats going on properly if they are any younger, generally speaking. I would say 6-7 is the ideal age.....

A very good point

Yeah totally agree, thats pritty standard request, asking for more work on evirormental and traffic issues.....so far so good!!

I would rather hear whatever singing there was.....rather than that bloody drum!

Good idea....I will re-create the vote after the game, or someone else can if they beat me to it.....use the same questions

Everytime he gets injured people right the kid off....and he just comes back and keeps scoring..... lol...Michael Owen....average of 1 in two games...and people still find room to rip him apart....isnt football funny :P

Totally agree.....its shocking the decline of alexandra park. There is nothing in this town other than pubs and indian resturants. Yet all are neighbours have cinemas, bowling alleys etc The town centre has not seen any investment in about 15 years or so. Oldham sports centre is rotting away. The once fantastic queen elizabeth hall is now a dump with its main use being the oldham beer festival . Nither business or entertainment has a foot hold in this ruin down town..... its unacceptably bad......

I see your point and its right. My point is also right though. the truth is somwhere in the middle. A new business will always face a up hill struggle recuriting good people. First of all you are competing for the best people against the bigger more established companies. You tend to find that the best regional people will be taken on by the bigger companies leaving the smaller companies picking at the rest. When you factor in location and communting times you will find small business relies upon a strong local work force which oldham lacks. its true and this is basic business studies stuff. the motorway helps local business recruit regionally but may other local towns also benefit from the m62 etc.... we need more big business in the town which will stimulate loccal growth... we need office space devlopment. business parks etc...exactly what will be at the new bp....give business a place to be and thrive then we can make use of the stiudents coming out of our succesful sixth form college and stop the skill drain.....

Erm, you reckon ? My cars been vanadlised 3 times in the last two months....I hear fights outside on a nightly basis....gangs of youths free to do as they please....parents who couldnt give a monkey..... thats very much reality of living in limeside/hollins/hollinwood...and many other areas in oldham.... I've lived in oldham on and off for 22 years (due to uni and living in the wifes town) and I see the Northern post-industrial squalor realities on a daily basis.... I do agree the perception is what drives these polls...and not every northern town is bad although the image says it is.....but I just think in Oldham's case they have it bang on!

Yup, thats what happens! Im in the process of leaving the town as well...I went to Uni but had to seek my career out of the town.....finally given up on the place! Over the last 20 years the place has just contined to nose dive....will always love the club but feel no pride for the town anymore...I live in Hollins and the area has just got worse and worse....I cant go sleep at night now without listening to someone having a fight outside or a car window going through.....just had enough and I wont subject my kids to it.....It was hard when I was a kid....its even harder now....

Like i pointed out.....thats only temp while they are studying....vast majority return home

Your right about transport connections....M62 and M60....also the bus system isnt all that bad....average of a bus every five mins during the day between Oldham and Manchester..... Regarding workforce what I say is true, OLDHAM does have a skills shortgage. Manchester is not Oldham. Alot of the sudents in manchester come from outside of manchester and return home afterwards. There are plenty of business in Manchester (traford park) and other towns around here competing for the students..... A new start company would struggle to attract people to oldham due to that fact oldham isnt a great place to live, manchester is too expensive and when you consider living somewhere and traveling to the town the expenses can grow. Best chance of a new start company to get these students is to target people who grew up in Oldham and have been to uni and are looking for work. Thats what the term skill shortgage really means....its a local issue and one actually highlighted by a number of reports on the town! .....a bigger company would have more success....but then again....we dont have alot of them! Local skills shortage is just one of the many issues.....

I think the skills shortage is a problem, kind of were i was going. I totaly agree with your comment : The most important thing is for the council to get out of the way of potential investment and do nothing to increase costs on it. but this is what exactly has been happening. About time the people of Oldham demanded more out of there council. The development at Boundary Park is actually more important for Oldham than Oldham Athletic but people dont see that..... I also agree that a number of are weakness can be used as tools to stimulate growth!

I totally agree with Oldham coming last. Not enough major employers. Everytime anyone trys to setup shop here we chase them out of town!!! Ikea is the best example. And there has been many more failed projects! Are stadium plans could be next no matter how good they are for the town. Oldham Council has been diseased for a long time. Too busy taking opinions of the few instead of considering the benefits to the many. To many councilers more worried about staying in office instead of getting this town out of the gutter. Town suffers from low employment, what employment there is low skilled, not enough oppotunities, failing schools........there is nothing to aim for living in this town. You look around and all we have is dieing town centre full of pound shops and cheap cafes (although a recent vist reviled a nice coffee shop in the town sqaure....i was shocked!)....and warehouse after warehouse offering nothing but picker packer jobs..... So you end up with kids growing up with nothing to aim for and the few that to do grow up to have any talents go out of the town to find work.....so the cycle continues...... Now im not doing anyone down who might do those jobs (good hard working people keep this place going!!!) but im sure we all want are kids to aim higher and do as well as they can......and i dont think our kids get offered that chance! ...well not in this town anyways! The stadium development at latics will create jobs....both low skiller and high skilled! Will keep profesional sport alive in the town and will give are kids an example of what can be achived in this world...... But it shouldnt stop there...we need the development at hollinwood to get going and we need to start getting new business into the town..... More business in the town mean more money for latics through sponosorship etc.....not a granteed bet but it cant be a bad thing.....big sucesful local firm maybe intrested in sponsoring us....has to be better than a two bit car dealership!

Just under 100 people have replied to this post repersenting about 2% of the fan base....... By no means offical I bet that this is a repersentation of the overall feeling. Exit polls and opinion pools sample smaller percentages and they are usally good bets to the outsomes of elections!!! So I think this poll holds some weight. I put it to the drummer, if he reads this, or anyone that knows him, not to the bring the drum for a couple of games and see if the atmosphere is just as good or better. And if it is, never to bring it again!!! The introduction of a drum hasnt proved succfesful, Boundary Park is queiter then its ever been in my opinion. Time to stop brining it.

Coco would immediatly claim it to be a bad signing :P im sure of that :P

lol, I doubt he feels that way about united :P But like you said, its nice to think its true :P

lol fair enough and i totally agree about people getting off there bum

Thats not fair....no witch hunt....just people have an opinion and feelings about it....

I dont know of these storys..... I think you can have an opinion....obviously it dosent annoy you as you dont have to sit in front of it and have ur ears destroyed but you can certainly comment on if you feel it is helping or destroying the atmosphere....

..exactly...

For me the best test is to compare the atmosphere pre drum and post drum..... For me its about the same if no worse, but now its annoying the hell out of alot of people.... As for moving to another seat....I never think that comments fair, people have there seasonticket seats for many a year and i belive its unfair to ask people to move.

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you cheeky swines :P :P No self respecting Oldham Fan would subject there fellow fan to such awful treatment to have that muppets name next to them. Feel ashmed £5 :getbent: Im going to be postnig alot it seems :P Only joking, might do that