oafc_lover

2 hours ago, League one forever said:

Like what. . . 

 

 

Be a long wait in the reserves if they’re after British Citizenship!

2 hours ago, Londonboy said:

Anyone know if Gerrard will be fit? Could do with him today I think. 

Wellens said he won’t be but in fairness we’ve heard that before!

20 minutes ago, TheBigDog said:

 

Intriguing that they have never started a game together - Wellens obviously doesn’t see them as a pair from the off, but often brings on Holloway late on to play alongside Doyle.

 

I would be happy with either Holloway or Nazon to start with Doyle tomorrow.

Don’t fancy Nazon at all me personally. I think AAH is a better player and brings more to the table!

2 minutes ago, Smiler13 said:

 

 

Barnsleys manager left after 4 weeks of him signing and their new boss does not seem to rate him

Didn’t realise that!

17 minutes ago, Wardie said:

Could be a simple as 'fickle manager syndrome'.
Manager doesn't like him, face doesn't fit...maybe?

Good for us if that is the case.

Begs the question why they signed him in the first place!

Not seen him play for a number of years so why do we think he’s not catching at Barnsley?

He’s 31 so you wouldn’t think his legs would have gone yet would you?

Going off his experience and the fact he’s consistently played at a higher level I’d obviously say take him but I’d be interested to know why his career seems to have ground to a halt.

Injuries, attitude, bad luck?

18 minutes ago, deyres42 said:

Who are all these defensive coaches and why doesn't every club have one?

Not all filthy rich like us now are they 

Just now, dave_ragg1984 said:

 

Generally, when someone doesn’t agree with an opinion is when they’d call it utter bollocks.

Generally it isn’t. If you are a bit of an arse hole then maybe, but thankfully the majority on this board aren’t.

17 minutes ago, boundaryblue80 said:

 

Wow...you really are struggling with this lad...

 

Last year, at one point in the season (you keeping up?) we were 8pts off getting out of relegation....(still with me?) and that is what "as close as ever to relegation" is. Not 2pts out of relegation. You comment is utter bollocks, yes.

 

By the way, April 4th 2017...2pts out of relegation...as close as ever eh 

 

League One table after close of play on 04 April 2017

Pos	Team	Pld	W	D	L	GF	GA	GD	Pts
1	Sheffield United	40	24	10	6	76	44	32	82
2	Bolton Wanderers	41	23	10	8	63	34	29	79
3	Fleetwood Town	40	19	12	9	55	37	18	69
4	Bradford City	41	17	18	6	55	39	16	69
5	Scunthorpe United	41	19	10	12	70	51	19	67
6	Southend United	41	18	12	11	63	48	15	66
7	Millwall	41	18	12	11	58	49	9	66
8	Rochdale	41	17	10	14	66	59	7	61
9	Bristol Rovers	41	16	12	13	60	59	1	60
10	Oxford United	40	17	8	15	56	47	9	59
11	Peterborough United	41	16	10	15	57	54	3	58
12	Milton Keynes Dons	41	14	12	15	53	51	2	54
13	AFC Wimbledon	41	13	15	13	52	51	1	54
14	Walsall	40	13	14	13	47	50	-3	53
15	Northampton Town	41	14	9	18	58	64	-6	51
16	Charlton Athletic	41	10	17	14	49	50	-1	47
17	Bury	41	12	10	19	58	69	-11	46
18	Oldham Athletic	41	10	15	16	27	42	-15	45
19	Gillingham	41	11	12	18	53	71	-18	45
20	Port Vale	40	11	12	17	44	62	-18	45
21	Shrewsbury Town	41	11	10	20	42	59	-17	43
22	Swindon Town	41	11	9	21	42	59	-17	42
23	Chesterfield	41	8	10	23	38	66	-28	34
24	Coventry City	40	7	11	22	33	60	-27	32

Can’t quite understand why you need to be using the tone you are. It doesn’t make you look any smarter. But if it makes you feel better about yourself then fair enough.

Anyway, your league table from last season just confirms what I’ve said. We’re as close as ever to relegation than we’ve ever been. Being lower in the league earlier in the season doesn’t mean you’re any closer to relegation because there are more games to play to get out of it.

Not sure if you’re keeping up or not but frankly I couldn’t care less.

I don’t think I’ve once said I want Wellens out?

I just want him to take responsibility for how poor we are as a team when we actually have a good squad of players.

If a manager like Grayson with a proven track record of winning promotion from this division became available, I’d want us to go for him. HOWEVER, I wouldn’t want us to give him the boot for someone who wouldn’t take us forward quickly.

7 minutes ago, lookersstandandy said:

 

It's for Doyle that I want AAH to start..... have they every started together? I can't recall they have.....?

Not sure actually. I don’t think they have no. But so effective together when he comes on from the bench...

21 minutes ago, lookersstandandy said:

 

Some are better than others though..... and benching your best ones seems daft.

Depends how you want to play I suppose.

I wouldn’t mind seeing AAH given a crack from the start.

Wellens is the one that says he wants to play it on the deck so why not so just that against Oxford?

2 hours ago, boundaryblue80 said:

"We’re probably as close as ever to relegation" - Really? No, actually, you're right...as close as ever. Closer than when we were rock bottom last season and 8pts from getting out of the relegation zone. We are closer than that 

14 minutes ago, boundaryblue80 said:

 

This time last year???? Who said owt about this time last year. Awwww....you're picking and choosing your dates now. You said as close to relegation as ever. You're talking utter bollocks. Being 8pts adrift like last season would be "being as close to relegation as ever" Check the table...we aren't even in relegation 

You did....?

We weren’t 8 points adrift at this point last year. Shezzurection was well under way.

Because you don’t agree with an opinion it’s utter bollocks? 

3 hours ago, lookersstandandy said:

 

You can hold it up with your feet y’know.....

Which all of those players are capable of doing. They’re not made of paper.

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2 hours ago, boundaryblue80 said:

 

"Got a belting squad of players" - Really? Do all belting squad of players have 1 recognised, experienced CB of which can't get on a pitch at the moment. The squad hasn't had a defence all season.

 

"We’re probably as close as ever to relegation" - Really? No, actually, you're right...as close as ever. Closer than when we were rock bottom last season and 8pts from getting out of the relegation zone. We are closer than that 

 

"he certainly doesn’t appear to fully know what he’s doing" - Really? I wonder why that might be? Oh...that's right...coz he's in his managerial nappy. 

Clarke and Gerrard both recognised, experienced CB’s. He chose to loan one out to a relegation rival.

Were we 8pts adrift at this time last year? No, we weren’t. 

I don’t give a flying fook if he’s in his managerial nappy or not, he still doesn’t know what formation to play to get the best out of these players.

You need to calm down and just debate in a manner that won’t give you high blood pressure.

1 hour ago, lookersstandandy said:

 

I dont.... who’s holding it up & causing space for Doyle to do his thing.....?

Holding it up? Play it on the deck and run at them. I am of course presuming their pitch isn’t dog shit.

He’s got great feet, deceivingly good pace and is an absolute animal. If he was a natural finisher he’d be playing at a much higher level especially with his physique.

Been a critic of his in the past but I’d start him ahead of Nazon every day of the week.

8 minutes ago, Fruitygoo said:

 

Just out of interest... How many of our squad do we think are wellens' choice? 

Well we know Byrne. He stated he was desperate to being Bryan and Doyle back which he did. He’s chose to play Moimbe and rightly so. McEleney I imagine was all him. Probably more than is made out at times.

30 minutes ago, opinions4u said:

 

Hes not exactly saved Bradfird's promotion campaign.

No but it’s not his group of players in his defence.

His record at this level is undenyable. 

4 minutes ago, LaticsPete said:

How long is “stable”? Surely it has to be more than six months. 

Wellens is learning and has made mistakes - but he’s also made good decisions. I’d be disappointed if he wasn’t given an opportunity to show that he has learned from mistakes . 

 

I agree to an extent but if someone like Simon Grayson became available and we could have him, you wouldn’t want him?

Obviously I know he won’t be available now but just using him as an example.

5 hours ago, the_mighty_bosh said:

I'll be there, I think 4-2-3-1 would ideal for this game.  The pressure will be on them to attack, so if we soak it up and hit them on the break then we'll have a lot of success.  I don't think we'll need either Holloway or Davies as long as Byrne is more advanced to support Doyle.

 

I'd also go for Wilson ahead of Edmundson as I reckon we'll be under more pressure at the back than on Monday.

 

Placide

 

Hunt

Wilson

Bryan

Moimbe

 

Fane

Gardner

 

McEleney

Byrne

Nepomuceno

 

Doyle

I like this.

6 minutes ago, JoeP said:

 

The stats would suggest the players we have who play in defence and goal are far from "belting"...

 

I just think he's shown enough potential to be given a longer go.  The idea of getting rid of him and taking a punt on another rookie over the summer just doesn't seem like a step forward.

53 minutes ago, oafc_lover said:

Anyone reckon it’d be worth a wage having a proper defence coach?

 

Looks like Paul Terry is doing it at the minute but wasn’t he a midfielder?

 

If we get Doyle back in on a permanent and make some good additions including Moimbe who I rate, we’ll have a good side but need to cut out the errors and look more organised at the back.

 

A proper defensive coach could be just the thing to get us more solid at the back and relieve a little pressure off the forwards to produce the goods.

See my post above.

Coach players properly and improve what, on paper should be a good defence.

Placide has played at a higher level.

Both Dummigan and Hunt were big prospects at Premier League clubs.

Gerrard has played at a higher level.

Bryan is one of City’s more promising defensive players. Sure he captained their Development side?

Moimbe has played at a higher level.

Not one of those players has hit their peak yet.

Would like nothing more than a connection between us and Roughyeds if it helped galvanise the town in the way it has Huddersfield.

BUT serious money would need investing in the playing surface. Potential if we can start using the synthetic surfaces but until then it’s just not worth it for us.

10 minutes ago, JoeP said:

Got to keep Wellens, especially if we stay up. 

 

There's been some impressive performances under him, so it's more than just sticking with him for the sake of it - he might actually know what he's doing.

Really?

Got a belting squad of players and with only 8 games left he still doesnt seem to know what formation to use to get the best out of them.

We’re probably as close as ever to relegation and until Byrne came on and sparked something we looked to be lacking any fight to turn things around.

Not saying get rid but he certainly doesn’t appear to fully know what he’s doing, despite a few good performances in his honeymoon period.