mikejh45

I bet that fleece is stained.

4 hours ago, simplythemostimportantkick said:

Cheeky handjob on the way in wouldn’t go amiss

Barry's free at the moment.

11 minutes ago, simplythemostimportantkick said:

Missed out one of these -

2-4 thrusts

So just to be clear.....you definitely got thrusts 1 and 3 in?

1 hour ago, simplythemostimportantkick said:

True. I peaked at about 24. The mrs was right about peaking too soon...

24 seconds? You stud!!!

13 minutes ago, TheBigDog said:

 

As are we all Mike, as are we all...

I'd love to come back with a witty retort......but I'm heartily laughing here. B*stard!!!

7 hours ago, Ryan said:

Carlisle are a miles better side than Vale?

Not arguing with that but are you asking for an opinion or stating a point.

I am saying that after a 6-0 pasting by Carlisle and losing Bunn in such dramatic circumstances to then bring in the stand-in academy manager, who had little involvement with the first team squad up to this point, and then get a win was an achievement in itself.

7 hours ago, Ryan said:

Stark difference to how we played against Bury at home, Crewe away, Tranmere away etc and how we’ve played in the last 2 games under PS and against Forest Green and Macc under Wild...

 

Absolute tosh that Bunn was an overly negative manager.

 

Anyway, we’ve got Scholesy now and need to back him...

You may not agree with me regarding Bunn and his negativity but I stand by it. He kept both our best attacking midfielders in Maouche and Baxter on the bench and only brought on the former once injuries kicked in. Scholes has now got Baxter heading back to playing to his former standards. He kept Nepomaceno on the bench in an either/or choice with Branger. Wild made a tactical decision, which worked, by playing both. Bunn played a rigid 442 for a large part of the season. 

I agree, we have Scholes and he has my full backing (I'm sure when he reads this at 8.30 am...….he will be immensely relieved)

58 minutes ago, mad4it said:

 Not really, look at the stats for the Carlisle game , they had a day when everything they hit, came off - 9 shots 7 on target 6 goals v our 9 shots 1 on target 

Hang on......what's your argument now? 

You posted on page12 that it was a crap performance against Carlisle.  Now you are saying, what appears to be, that Carlisle were lucky.

So how do you explain the turnaround from losing at Carlisle under Bunn (who some people think was a popular manager with the players) to winning away at Port Vale with virtually the same team? 

1 hour ago, mad4it said:

That’s your opinion which you are entitled to and I have mine which I’m also entitled to. 

 

If you look at the team has been set up by both Pete Wild and Paul Scholes it not s whole lot different than how Frankie Bunn up his teams, and there is a reason for this , we don’t have (or didn’t have) the players to play fast flowing attacking football 

May not be different starting 11 but there was a stark difference in attitude from Bunn"s last match to Wild"s first.

12 minutes ago, mad4it said:

Prior to the Carlisle game , we had started to play some decent football, we beat Bury 4-2, should have got at least draw against Exeter, and had couple of refereeing decisions gone our way in other games we would have been challenging for the top 3. 

 

 Clearly(in my opinion) what is happening behind the scenes is having an impact on the players .  The owner (or his brother) dictating who plays and who doesn’t , signing players from the bottom of the French lower leagues and paying them far much more than they’re actually worth 

As I've said before and I'm sticking with this.....we were crap with Bunn and Rhodes. Performances picked up with Wragg coming in but Bunn was still too defensive and negative. We'll just have to disagree on value that Bunn brought to the team.

As for the foreign players, there were 4 in the mix in December. I don't think that many would argue that Maouche, Missilou and Nepomaceno are worth their places in the starting line and I would certainly add Branger also. So your last statement is a bit fatuous.

1 minute ago, JoeP said:

 

What are you saying? That all the stories about AL are false and people are making them up for a bit of a laugh?

 

The only thing that seems more chaotic on the pitch at Latics is what's happening off the pitch. You could put Bunn, Scholes or Guardiola in - they'll all end up going the same way. 

Where did I say they are false....all I've said  there are two sides to a story.

You believe them if you want, that is your prerogative...….I'll just hold back for a bit longer until the full story comes out.

You maybe right and I could be wrong in which case I'll hold my hands up but until that point, I'll play devils advocate.

The basis of your argument is totally unbalanced and one-sided.

I didn't think Bunn was a good manager. Football was poor to average and too defensive.....almost getting knocked out in the FA first round.

Why is it that the two players you named both had an axe to grind after throwing their football toys out of the pram......both have been unprofessional throughout their careers which makes their stories less than believable.

9 minutes ago, mad4it said:

I use the word allegedly because it wasn’t there to witness the incident, and those that were haven’t publicly commented on it.

So from what you are saying it might not have happened in which case you can't use it as a weapon.

4 minutes ago, mad4it said:

Perhaps the real reason for Bunns sacking was that a certain player (allegedly) had AL by throat after his dressing room, after he stormed into after the Exeter games 

How many times are you going to use an alleged incident to suit your argument? I don't think I have come across any other poster who mentions this.

We are 8 weeks on from Exeter and this story remains a story.

I've never claimed to have a source and stated so on here on several occasions.

My opinion is based on human nature and logic only. I read what others post and if it doesn't make sense, I try to make a reasoned, alternative viewpoint.

So please tell me how, as you put it, "downing tools" for the Carlisle game would help Bunn? Doing so gave AL a reason to get of him and backfired on the players.

Bunn may have been well-liked but what does that mean?

14 minutes ago, yarddog73 said:

The players really liked Bunn, okay they downed tools at Carlisle but I would bet a pound to a penny that was in protest at AL storming the dressing room post match Exeter and not because they'd lost respect for Bunn, Bunn losing his job was the fall out from it because AL loves to deflect the shit storm away from his own door.

Doesn't make sense...…."down tools" in protest at the owner so the manager ends up getting the boot AND THEN pull out all the stops for PW in the next couple of matches peaking In Fulham where, from my seat, they didn't shy away from AL in the celebrations.

There was only one player who stood by Bunn and that was Miller. To the rest, Bunn was just another manager and a not very good one.

Lot of misinformation here, I think. 

53 minutes ago, mad4it said:

The owner signed half of the players , so that was going to be very unlikely. 

Nonsense..….out of the 18 players, 3 came through the system, 2 were at the club before AL, 5 were loanees brought in by Bunn/Rhodes, 4 were signed by Bunn/Rhodes leaving 4 brought in by AL/ML. I would say that less than 25% had some affiliation with the owner.

No. Bunn lost the dressing room.....that's if he ever had it.

6 hours ago, mad4it said:

We actually played well against Exeter, but failed to deal the Jayden Stockley , we should have also had a clear penalty when was fouled I’m the area . Yes the performance s few days later cost Bunn his Job , but if the rumours are true, the owner kicking off in the dressing room after the exetyhe wouldn’t have helped team morale 

On the other hand, if the team felt Bunn was harshly treated, they would have pulled out all the stops and produced the goods at Carlisle to show the owner they were with the manager.

21 minutes ago, latics22 said:

Sounds like he has good morals ...

Sounds like bollox to me.

47 minutes ago, HarryBosch said:

 

The two things aren't mutually exclusive...

 

Sheridan got a tune out of two of our worst teams ever. 

And therein lies the problem.….Sheridan suffers from a severe case of Allardycitus…….no stamina for a long campaign!!!

36 minutes ago, BP1960 said:

 

It is at Liverpool. 

Means nothing. Still not won anything despite spending sh*t loads of money.

Van Gaal, before he failed at United (having said that he still won more than Klopp in a shorter tenure than Klopp) was a successful coach for several clubs and he's known for nailing his arse to the seat for 90 mins.

1 minute ago, BP1960 said:

 

I'll say it, but will no doubt get lambasted for it...no passion from the manager either throughout the game.

Is that a pre-requisite for being a good manager?

Do you think COG practices his runs into the box or is it just natural talent OR it's neither of the above and he's just a lazy b*stard.

3 hours ago, OLDHAMADE said:

Sharp as a tack 

Definite  Upvote

Cheers......I've been described as "sharp as a billiard ball" before now.

18 minutes ago, GlossopLatic said:

 

Its a very good point. I doubt anyone would get Branger to change his ways in a week or even at all at this stage in his careee

 

Im not sure we should try either hes very much a tricks and flicks type of player and really their is nothing wrong with trying these things to beat opponents in the opposition 3rd it will create chances and goals. We've just got to try and get him to do it when it pays off and try and at times it wont keep it simple a ball straight into the box or a simple lay off to teammate can sometimes be just as effective.

Put more succinctly than my attempt.