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lookers87

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  1. Tonk to me hasn't been the same since Mvoto went back to Sunderland. Poor the last few games but how quickly people forget.

    All round it was a decent 1st half and an awful 2nd, never looked like being a 5-0 game though (ala Southampton who did look a class apart), goes to show what the simple formula has always been in this division (that we can't seem to crack), namely a good striker who takes chances at a good ratio and good set pieces.

  2. We've got the worst record in the division for dropping points when ahead.

     

    Still in 7th though, so a little more consistency will see us into the play-offs.

     

    To be fair we have been very consistent (check the league record out over the past 2 x 10 games - identical I think). We just need to hold on to a few more wins in the remaining games than we have done so far.

  3. I personally don't think an entirely supporter owned club is the way forward, though I'm not against the idea, and I do think more can be done with a different style trust/100s minority shareholders.

     

    What I find deeply depressing is that SC's (who has zero to invest in the club) brief (as I understand it) when he arrived at the club was to help Blitz and Gazal (the money men) to find further investment. That was his brief. We are now 6 years down the line and other than a brief show from Mike Newton nothing has materialised. He has known about the current situation since probably the turn of the year. Granted it isn't easy persuading money men to part with cash, particularly at this time, but 6 years suggests something isn't right.

     

    I spent yesterday in a meeting with the main money man behind Burnley. And what I can't understand is why we/the owners/whoever, have this obsession with finding a new 'financier'. Prior to a change last week when another wealthy businessman was persuaded to join the board, Burnley have operated with a board of 8 people for years. All of them successful businessmen, all putting finance in (according to their shareholdings) and most importantly...all fans of the club.

     

    Before this is taken as some romantic notion that won't happen, there are plenty of successful Oldham fans, and I cannot believe that all of them have been 'approached' in the past 6 years.

     

    For all his failings I like AH from when I've met him and from a football administration point of view I don't think we could get better. I also think Blitz in particular was unlucky with many factors, but I think he'll be the first to admit he also made some howlers. It's a shame it has gotten to this situation, now is the time to ask 'how we solve this' not 'who is to blame'.

  4. Hmmm I downloaded them last year and under notes to the abbreviated accounts> 1.1 Accounting Convention it stated:

     

    'The shareholders have indicated their present intention to provide adequate finance to enable the company to continue in operational existence and on this basis the directors consider that is appropriate to prepare the financial statements on the going concern basis.'

     

    I take then no note is made as to how the club is current a going concern this year?

     

    Same standard statement is in there this time.

  5. Aye there should be at least half a million income from Eaves and Eards

     

    Not Eaves, his sale was a 2010 one...just Eards sale.

     

    Again could be wrong at first glance, but from the figures they've given I'm guessing Eards money is in there which would account for the 1.275m operating loss becoming a 1.524m overall loss even including the 550k write off (which would mean there is a 266k exception income).

     

    As I say all speculation at this stage without seeing the actually figures (and even then I'm no forensic accountant!!)

     

     

  6. We still have Simon Corney in the driving seat and I honestly believe that he would NOT have expected to still be here. That's not the actions of someone who couldn't give a stuff about the club. First & foremost, Simon Corney is a businessman. If he makes a profit from the eventual sale of Latics then good luck to him and his two cohorts. Secondly he, along with the other amigos, spent considerable sums of their own money. This has been reported in the press and in terms of actual figures, it is irrelevant to the man in the street - I mean if they have put £1m in each should we castigate them for not putting £1.5m or £2m etc into the club!!! Also, its not like anyone else is queuing up to put this money in. And without it we would probably be a distant memory now and playing football in the non-league under another name.

     

    Just a pedant point... Corney has never been one of the money men. It is/was Blitz that has written the cheques.

  7. Not quite sure how ST holders have become the baddies in this discussion.

     

    Without the large injection of cash created by ST purchases at the time of year that it is our club and many, many others would be in a whole heap of trouble. Plus it is my commitment to the club I support. No more, no less - apart from the fact that I get the seat I want every game.

     

    I am one and I am also a massive advocate of the club doing more to get the more casual fan through the gate and find some way of rewarding the regulars who either can't afford a ST or can't make best use of one. After all whether you attend or not you are Oldham fans and ok with me (just be nice to see a few more of you on the odd occasion).

     

    Any incentive however needs to be matched against ST holders for 2 reasons. 1, it would be business suicide to create a core group of payers, and then produce an even better deal outside of this for both the short-term and long-term. 2, whatever their own motivation, these are the group of people who 99% of the time will be there come rain, shine or poor football.

     

    Without a season ticket in hand I can guarantee that I wouldn't attend some of the games that I do. Travelling the 80+ mile round trip with businesses to run etc means that I have plenty of excuses not to go, but I do thanks to the fact I have a ST.

     

    So by all means look at incentives with pricing (though as some point out, that is just one aspect that should be considered), but let's look at how we can make better use of the ST holders, incentivise the next generation of fans (personally I'm an advocate of under 10's free with a paying adult) and loyalty incentives for non-season ticket holders (as long as it is a clear, simple plan and doesn't impact on the incentive to buy ST).

     

    As the facts prove, lower prices alone don't bring crowds back in anything like the numbers we need. So keep the ideas coming, but don't make ST holders out to be the bad guys

  8. Should we have season cards (right now) - No - massive unnecessary expense at this present time

     

    Is it something the club are well aware of and would like to move to - Yes

     

    The only way cards could happen is if every turnstile was fitted with the required technology, plus a sizeable upgrade to the technology within the club. Not a chance of this happening, it is however in the plans for the new ground as I understand it. In fact they have already made part of a move towards it with the Teamcard - other clubs have combined this loyalty card with season ticket in an all-in-one solution.

  9. against the quick Jay Rodriquez (who if is available for loan I would Love; LOVE for us to sign – top player!)

     

    player i believe we tried to sign twice on loan last season via a sweet recommendation :wink:

     

    Won't get him now though as he's going to play a bigger role this season. Played in the ressies to keep him sharp, rather than due to being surplus.

     

     

  10. • Reuben looks a different player with the ball at his feet this season; last season was a panicked hoof; this time its a measured pass;

     

    Sorry, but that's taking it a bit far!! It'll take more than a pre-season with Dickov to find anything measured in Reuben's long 'passing'.

     

    For everything else, some good points on both sides of the coin, but I'll give it another 10 games before analysing too much. Couldn't ask for a better start though.

  11. Seems to be de-riggeur in football at the moment to have everyone back. You see it time and again across all the divisions and international football (certainly the bigger nations). So it isn't only us.

     

    They'll be a bunch of stats somewhere that's caused the shift, I'd always take the old line of leaving 3 players on the halfway line, thereby meaning 4 oppo players in the box, still leaves man each and 2 on the posts.

  12. As the Dragons say on Dragons Den... Marketing is easy... Its all common sense... If a few people switched their heads on in the club half the stuff you mention should happen without a dedicated marketing guy to be frank...

     

    True, but without a dedicated person this 'easy' stuff gets left behind in the general daily firefighting that goes on. And that is at the heart of why the club's marketing got to the stage it did in the void between Jarvis and Guy. Any organisation worth it's salt needs a dedicated marketer particularly in this day and age.

  13. M'Voto struggled to get in a relegated Southend side, that's my worry about him. Looked a very solid player but also looked like he had a costly mistake in him too. Is M'Voto the huge guy in the photo?

     

    As Razza said that was mainly through injury. Up until the injury southend were certainly impressed with him. Certainly the feeling is that he's one of those players who takes a while to get going after injury, but the more he plays the better.

     

    In theory the kind of centre back we've needed for a while - some experience but young, big, strong and pacy. But let's wait and see!

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