GlossopLatic

Sutton at fault there he plays them on side then completely misses his clearence when he gets back in position.

6 minutes ago, nzlatic said:

 

Man marking Conn-Clarke today? 

That looks exactly like what he is doing.

5 minutes ago, LaticMark said:

 

They've shown the Fondop red card several times on TNT, including slow motion, describing it as an 'absoluteley disgraceful' decision. Fondop can be seen flicking the ball away with his left foot and then he gets kicked!!

 

It's not even a foul, let alone a yellow or red card.

I don't like slating referees but that referee performance in the second half against Fylde was absolutely awful I thought he was pissed.

5 minutes ago, nzlatic said:

Could be that he feels he can rely on McGahey to not shit the bed under pressure. To be fair he doesn’t look like someone who’s panicking on the ball, he’s just limited as a footballer. 

Hes someone with a strong character I do see that but he's a centre back and we keep sending him out to play RB or centre mid that's issue I have.

I think we need to go back to 3-5-2 with Mcgahey as one of the CBS Sutton RWB Gardner and Conlon in the middle with Hope supporting Norwood and Dallas.

I'm somewhat bemused why Mcgahey keeps avoiding being dropped we keep sending him out there, out of position and he offers very little he must offer something in the dressing room that I can't see.

1 hour ago, Summerdeep said:

^ My telly's so ancient that it only has Scart connections (CRT job, circa 1998).

Can you still get Teletext?

42 minutes ago, Littlemoor Lad said:

If the Fylde game was a must win, what does it make today?

Alty will now be looking at 2nd and 3rd place as very achievable, as we go through the motions 

Today and every game for this group of players is a must win. Its still mathmatically possible for us to get top 7. Now I personally don't expect us now to get there but I expect us to be aiming for and doing everything they can to get top 7. I expect the players to show professional pride and go and give everything they have to win the game. The majority of this squad is playing for its future in professional football nevermind Oldham Athletic.

I don't expect them to play for the shirt or the fans or any of that bollocks if it motivates them great, but primarily I expect them to be trying for themselves and for their team mates.

1 minute ago, mick26 said:

Yes limping at the end again - needs releasing at the end of the season unfortunately.

He played well yesterday. Their was a part of the 1st half too where he was rabble rousing and encouraging the players to talk I could hear him in the North Stand so the players should have been able to hear him. But we can't rely on his fitness and even when he is he fit he can often be inconsistent so unfortunately we probably need to release him and get someone who we can get 30-40 games out of a season.

2 hours ago, PeteG said:

I was referring to the football staff. Apparently we had no sports scientist, physio, catering for players, scouts, analysis staff etc. etc. before the take over which is know was lies.

You mean like the lie your mate told us for years that the North Stand was unsafe.

59 minutes ago, Lee Sinnott said:

If we don't make the playoffs, the club would be well within their rights to remove him...

They'd be within their right to remove him if we made the play offs. In either case it wouldn't make it the right thing to do.

29 minutes ago, PeteG said:

Whilst i'm all for giving Mellon time, I do think there needs to be some communication from the football club especially from the CEO who has been pretty anonymous in the 2 seasons he's been in charge of the club. It's ok speaking regularly with the Foundation but he really needs to communicate to the wider fan base via the official channels. We hear plenty from Frank which is all very nice but it's not about the football which has been largely shite since he took over. The club are now asking us fans to put our hands in our pockets for season tickets whilst we remain pretty much in the dark about the plans that were put in place. I remember DR saying on the podcast sometime ago all the off field stuff was to guarantee success on the pitch. We had a recruitment team headed up by Thompson, scouting team and stats based analysis. Is this still the plan and if so who is now in charge of recruitment. What happened to the B team? They seem to have come in with all these plans, it's turned to crap pretty quickly under Unsworth and now we are just winging it whilst throwing good money after bad. I would suggest before we look at replacing Mellon, there needs to be a total rethink from the top and it would be nice if that was shared with the fans.

Oh look who's crawled out from under his rock.

6 hours ago, Sloshed Joe said:

Another reason why the ‘decision makers’ wanted Mellon for the job was his previous association & success managing James Norwood. They will have realised that getting our new expensive star striker motivated and firing was key. The way that Mellon talked in his early interviews, about being out of the game working in other fields and this project being presented to him - I wonder if he even applied for the job but was in fact approached by DR and sold the dream - due to his promotion record and history with Norwood. It’s sound logic, but clearly hasn’t paid off (yet)

 

Similar logic would’ve been to let Thommo & Redders continue. Yes, Thommo was part of a recruitment team that saddled us with an unbalanced squad. But as manager, I liked the fact that he backed the players which he’d scouted. Reid, Nuttall, Lundstrum, Ward, Kurt etc - he would’ve poured all his efforts into getting those players firing to prove his judgement was sound. And a lot of the squad had a rapport with Thommo coz they knew he’d rated them and brought them in. I liked the fact he was a proud Oldhamer as well.

 

In hindsight, I think giving them the job until the end of the season, to see if he could get his expensive signings firing, would’ve been the best approach. Then reassess the situation in May.

 

Instead, a lot of those players have barely played, are demotivated and will be much harder to flog.

Let's not kid ourselves that Steve Thompson had a magic formula for this team he didn't. They would have reverted to type pretty quickly if we gave him longer than we did.

45 minutes ago, Littlemoor Lad said:

After reading that, it's as if Unsworth never left 

In fairness, we did improve beyond recognition and it was such a relief but now we're back to square one and everyone's revisiting past traumas.

Maybe the weight of expectation is too much to carry for any manager or player who wears the shirt.

Which is why sacking the manager rarely proves to be the answer to the problem infact it never does. The problems are because the same players will revert to type at some point.

So what's our way out of this?

Well I would hope that we have already made plans for recruitment for next season. I think the managers knows which players he needs to bring in, perhaps the players know it too and one or 2 of them know they won't be part of it next season and perhaps have psychologically downed tools.

We need players with the right mentality clearly they need to be comfortable with the expectation of being one of the favourites for promotion and be comfortable with the idea that teams like Fylde or Kidderminster will be up for it when they come to Boundary Park and the expectation is to beat them.

We also need pace and energy in that team their is a lack of it. We started with 4 centre midfielders yesterday it was a narrow midfield so when we have that and no out ball we just put the ball up the middle of the pitch. Nick Haughton showed yesterday and no doubt Chris Conn-Clarke will prove on monday what we are missing.

We don't have a magic man! someone who we can get the ball to and they will make things happen. We don't have wide players who can commit men and take people on, for some bizarre reason we haven't found a right back, the lad for Fylde looked OK yesterday look how he strode out from the back for their first goal. That position needs solving. 

So we have a big Summer ahead with bringing players in and getting players out. I'm hoping those that come in have not only enough ability but can drag a few up with them. We have a squad of players now which you can split into 2 broad groups. 1 lot shouldn't be at the club and the others are good enough but need the right players around them to get us promoted back to the football league.

It's looking more and more like he's got a big job this summer trying to get the players out the door who can't do it consistently for him. I do believe their is a lack of energy in this team it's sn experienced team but one that lacks energy and pace particularly in wide areas.

The manager has to take some of the blame but the players are the ones responsible for caving in today and over this last month.

If you were to replace the manger now. I guarantee that you will get initial an burst of energy from the team but they will revert to type within a few months giving inconsistent performances. They've done it to 2 managers now they will do it to another.

Now the terms embarrassment disgrace and garbage have been over used this season on this message board.

But that first 30 minutes was the definition of an embarrassment when you consider that today was a must win.

I can imagine that anyone who described that 1-0 win away at Dorking in deep Jan as a disgrace their heads will have exploded after watching that.

Ironically when we went 3 down stuck 5 in midfield we actually started to pass it. Radical.

Do we know whats happened to Raglan injured? Suspended?

Looks like a narrow 4-4-2. I'm guessing Hammond is playing right mid?

24 minutes ago, Wardie said:

Or water off a duck's back, more likely.

That's the spirit!

We've thrown in a number of stinkers this season and on numerous occasions have gone on to pull of wins it can happen today.

16 hours ago, old codger said:

I read through looking to see if someone else had spotted the differential increase for old codgers like me.

 

Thanks LaticMark.  

 

There are so many of us and just as the Tories are moving the balance of taxation away from workers (broadly speaking NIC payers) to pensioners (who pay no NIC) the Latics want us old ones to pay a larger proportion of gate income.

Old people: Young people are entitled and want something for nothing.

Also Old people: I'm old gimme gimme gimme gimme

Grandpa Simpson

We are due a win I think we will get one tomorrow. I'm hoping last week was a slap in the face for a few of the players.

I think we have to accept that football clubs infact sports clubs in general are failed business models. The club only really makes significant money 23 days a year yet the outgoings are on a daily basis any other business would go under with such unsustainable losses. Promotion won't solve that it will boost revenue but if we want to be competitive at that level we will have to pay out more in wages on the pitch.

We are very much at the whim of the owners fortunately we have the right ones in charge. As proved though football does attract alot of bad actors such as vain football agents or other opportunists who want the status of being involved but Contribute nothing. These people unfortunately do alot of damage to football clubs and football in general keeping them away from football is a difficult thing.

41 minutes ago, Dickie Down said:

Is is it coincidence that the £2 m figure for debtors is the same as the figure for the creditors minus the assumed Rothwell portion?

No I think it will be different things I don't know exactly what they will be,  but in layman's terms creditors are people we owe money too and debtors are who owe us money. It could be anything for all we know.

34 minutes ago, BradKnowles1 said:

I think it can be concluded we are reliant on the Rothwells putting their money in 

Yes we are that Creditors figure of £7.5mill is quite eye popping £5.5million of that is other creditors I'm assuming that is directors loans from the rothwells. While effectively that would mean OAFC owes the Rothwells £5.5million its highly unlikely they will call it in just as in the case of Chris Moore Simon Blitz and probably Abdallah Lemsagam too they will eventually just write them off.

The question going into next season is how much of that cash is left and how willing will the Rothwells be to throw more money at it? I'm not anticipating them to turn off the taps I think we will have a very competitive budget at this level at this level next season certainly one that if used wisely will be enough for us to get promotion. But I think we need to be smarter at how we spend our budget I think we probably all know that.

It was interesting to see that we have £2million owed to us in debtors. Who owes us that kind of money?

1 hour ago, JED said:

Be good to see those NOT committing keeping quiet when there are questions being asked about the cost of the squad next season. Those buying a season ticket are contributing to the running of the club and backing Frank and co, and ‘buy’ the right to comment.

I think their is element of season fatigue at the moment it happens quite often at this time of year but particularly with the recent form. However come August their will be a renewed sense of optimism.

Obviously what we do during the close season will have a big impact, but I think come August alot of those wavering now will be refreshed and will have renewed their season tickets.

15 minutes ago, yarddog73 said:

Good for you, I won't be with the hike in prices. I was debating anyway but that's made my mind up for me. What's the justification for the rise?.

I wasn't asking for plaudits. Having a season ticket means I'm paying for 16 games if I was to buy in advance and 13 if bought on the day. So I can miss a good chunk of games and still be better off. 

Don't forget we won't have EFL parachute money next season so we have quite a shortfall in income to make up. 

I also think that we will be more competitive next season than this. I'm trusting the process.

Very reasonable in my opinion. Despite a recent downturn in overall form and let's call it mixed home form I've every intention of getting one.

Season Tickets 2024/25

We need to remember that all the teams around us are fallable it's not entirely beyond the realms of possibility that we could be back in the race this time next week.