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Midsblue

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  1. ...and it will be through the media so he can have his say. This Clown has no interest whatsoever in the fans. If he had, he would have been in regular contact with the fans even before the meeting or suggestion of a letter. If if he’s in country and I’m residence at the stadium then turn up and demand a meeting. He said his door is always open. If he refuses at that point then his contempt is irrefutable....even though it’s clearly evident and has been since he arrived here.
  2. Haha I wasn’t being pedanti. My point is if it was the fans collective then I’m more comfortable. However a fan-led group could be different - is it an OAFC fan or a football fan and whichever, is it primarily to safeguard our future or to profit?
  3. Cheers - did we put a read receipt on email and was it sent to his personal email address? I doubt he’s got a PA
  4. He’s been around over 12 months now and I still cannot fathom what his actual strengths are... PR? definitely not. Communication? nope. Business acumen? Not a chance. We definitely certain he’s not a double-glazing salesman from Luton and the nearest he’s been to Dubai is Easyjet’s hub at the edge of his town?
  5. The fans won’t be the landlord. A fan-led group would be but who are they and what are their motives? Going back to Lemsagam; this statement is staggeringly naive and comical.... calling him a Clown is so close to the mark. Anybody who purchases something will find out what they’re buying before signing the deal. Hes probably that Clown who bought, via EBay, a photo of a boat for £5k rather then the boat.
  6. Any news on who received the hand delivered version and whether any acknowledgement yet?
  7. Do you think Lemsagam is intentionally issuing this stuff so we take pity on him for being a fool with money who has been robbed blind by Corney? I still very much doubt he paid anything close to £4 million to purchase the club. If I had to estimate, I’d say that figure has been exaggerated by at least £3.5 million. Perhaps once you factor in inheritance of debts and running costs for last 12 months, which is still doubtful because debts remain unpaid. However I want to see the evidence first of what he paid, what’s he had to pay in last 12 months and what debt remains. That wont happen though as I doubt he’ll reply to the Trust letter
  8. I picked up on some Twitter waffle but also heard something similar separately. Clearly whoever is buying the stadium / land and is fan-based has the wealth or connections to the wealth to achieve this. Uncertain the motive as safeguarding the club means kissing goodbye to the millions. That’s unless the surrounding land can be developed, to achieve that return or whoever is purchasing can acquire the club too and turn it into a profit-making operation. Theres no guarantees to a return so the purchasers must have deep pockets and wants to own a football club or we do have wealthy OAFC fans out there.
  9. Any chance of expanding on this? Stadium purchase is suggested as fan-led, which is hopefully only positive for the medium to long term future if the club. Does this mean there is wealth or potential to purchase the club to via a fan-based initiative even if separate to the Trust? Any substance to the Steve Morgan rumour? He’s retiring next week from Redrow so a great opportunity to purchase a football club nearby to him. He’s a massive football fan so could he be the “fan” led purchaser of the stadium too? Over £600m in his back pocket I hear, loves development (did this with Molineux) and I heard was keen to gain success that we didn’t quite achieve at Wolverhampton. However got them in a position to sell to the Chinese and got all his money back.
  10. I just want the truth and it’s not exactly difficult to deliver it...unless you’re not prepared to. 1. Recognise and accept that the Trust is the official representative of the fans who, with no disrespect, are the lifeblood of the future of your club 2. Meet regularly with the Trust - not some propaganda exercise spouted to a carefully selected audience 3. Be open and honest with the Trust, backed with factual evidence - a. How much did you buy the club for? b. What is the current legacy debt situation? c. What is the operating debt situation? d. What income provision is in place to cover the legac and operating debt? e. What is the playing budget for next season? 4. What is the managerial/coaching model you are adopting - is it a head coach with your brother responsibility for recruitment or will the manager have total autonomy for recruitment and selection? If the latter, what assurances can be given to not interfere and jeopardise the success in the pitch unless the performance necessitates intervention. Its not just Lemsagam. We fans need to know who is buying the stadium and land plus what their plans are. Too many cloaks, too many daggers, too many personal agendas....
  11. This will hopefully be clarified at the Trust meeting today. Is the fan-led consortium purchasing the stadium/land for a fair price or have they had to outbid Lemsagam thus paying greater than actual true current value? Lemsagam’s “generous” bids could be 10-20% below to current market value so understandably rejected. If Lemsagam genuinely has the clubs future at heart then drop these clandestine meetings and meet with The Trust. He’s just the custodian at moment so accept that the land/stadium is best in fans hands who will do the best for the club. If he was happy to buy that land then invest that money into the squad and a more long-term manager. If he then focuses on success on the pitch and the fans on enhancing the stadium then hopefully harmony between both parties can exist and one day, one party can buy out the other (hopefully that being the fan-led consortium). That Sky interview came over as bitterness that Brassbank opted to sell to the fans rather than the current owner and poor old Lemsagam is just left with a badge. If that’s the case, you keep your debts through your incompetence and hand us back our club. We’d be just as skint as you our and would have to operate the club on break-even but hopefully owning the stadium and generating income from the will increase our chances of increasing playing budgets.
  12. The contempt towards the fans continues - talk to Sky but keep avoiding a meeting with the Trust. Wouldnt surprise he got his brother to interfere so he could tell the press that “he” didn’t interfere. I wonder if Scholes will confirm that he sanctioned Fane’s release, which The Clown is suggesting here.
  13. You had me right up to Over the past year under new ownership the club has tried to rebuild, with millions being invested in the team whilst also paying off past debts Millions spent on the team and paying off past debts.... prove it. Provide a breakdown of where it’s been spent because it hasn’t been spent on gas, a boiler, pension for staff, bus to transport team.... the list goes on and on Surely whoever is drafted this rubbish is looking at social media and is gauging the hostility of the fanbase towards this clown
  14. I joined the Trust and believe in what they’re wishing to achieve on behalf of our football club irrespective of who’s currently the owner. All fans should reject this desperate attempt to engage - its too little and definitely too late. It should be Trust member or members that make up this role - safety and strength in numbers..... that’s if we accept. However I’m 100% in agreement that we push on - boycott every home game - and stuck two fingers up to this olive branch. This latest attempt is clear that Lemsagam has no funds and now relying on whatever matchday income is generated to pay bills. He’s trying to delay the inevitable. To suggest he has the club at heart shows this clown’s contempt for the fans. He forces Scholes out of the managers role through his own interference and no funding. We’ve gone backwards under his tenure and the future looks even more bleak than under Corney. Time to turn the heat up and smoke the charlatan out!
  15. Ground first. Whoever owns the club has to then pay us rent. Strong position to be in. The club has no asset value - the ground does. No brainer to me.
  16. Thanks Tracy. Re: fan-led buyout. Totally understand the NDA and if the Trust Directors are inside this and working for the long-term security of our club then that’s sufficient for me. No doubt all will become public to us Trust members in due course. Hopefully this is secured soon as this will strengthen our position immensely. Re: the club. Securing land/stadium is priority but as we’d be talking to two different parties, can the two not be handled separately but at same time? Can we not officially contact Lemsagam requesting an immediate meeting to understand recent events and answer immediate concerns we have? Pose the question whether he’s open to selling the club. If he refuses to meet or discuss then we switch to boycotting home matches. Throwing stuff on the pitch will harm the club with fines - boycotting will harm Lemsagam in his pocket. We now have time to organise this and reach out to all home fans to boycott matches until Lemsagam comes to our table or sells. Lastly I do need to question our remit in understanding the EFL decisions. Any actions by them in allowing Lemsagam to buy our club and risk the future of our club should firmly be in our remit. I won’t comment on how we acquire players and why but this should be within EFL’s remit and if any risk in the future if our club should then remain in our remit.
  17. I’ve looked at the Trust website and can’t find the directors or who’s representing us. Do we have anyone who has knowledge of football-related regulations, EFL processes and acquisition / registration of players. Isn’t the stadium purchase being driven by a Trust director who’s background is trust funds, finances etc? Can we not get them onto the acquisition of the club as well as stadium/land? Even get Scholes involved or open doors to his contacts who could have the knowledge or financial clout to address this current nightmare. If he’s as big a fan as he stated in his farewell statement then hopefully he can help and return back as manager once this clown has gone.
  18. Please define effective (probably best answered by the Trust) but I can’t see it myself. I don’t think 100% of our fans are fully interested in this and happy to attend and watch football - that’s there prerogative. Only way to protest is a complete boycott of every home game for remainder of season until he agrees to meet, contractually accepts our terms or agrees to sell the club and discloses exactly what he is selling it for. I suggested this yesterday and one fan said that he’d still attend and nit be happy if we was asked not to. Everyone is entitled to attend if they want but this is more than the loss of £x pounds for remaining value of ST. Its clear Lemsagam doesn’t have the funds to pay the gas let alone strengthen this club. Starve him of any more income, forcing him to sell or force the club into administration when he can’t pay costs or player wages. Trust start a fund whereby what fans were to pay on matchday is paid in and help pay the club staff wages who are fully employed and wholly reliant on being paid if Lemsagam doesn’t pay. Players can claim from PFA or walk. If possible, help the players too and muster great solidarity of everyone vs Lemsagam. Protect our own and starve this clown. Either he’ll agree to meet us and then we, with indisputable evidence, decided to reattend or we continue to boycott until he sells.
  19. Here’s a suggestion. If the game is called off and Lemsagam was at the ground then he’s got 90 minutes free in his diary. How about meeting the Trust and answering the long list of questions us fans now have ending (or starting with if you wish) with - please can you put the club up for sale and politely fuck off out of our club? In all seriousness; he’s promised openness with the fans. Up to now he’s avoided us like the plague. However now is the time he needs to answer the questions on management, autonomy, finances and strategy. If he refuses yet again then, Trust, you know your position
  20. If it enters administration then its a more viable purchase than current position Do you honestly think this clown bought it for £4 million and has been pumping in £200k a month to pay bills when the gas has been cut off, buses can’t be funded for away games and players have to wash their own kit? If we cut off any income to this bloke then he’ll have no choice but to enter administration. He’s obviously potless. Yes we’ll have a points deduction but someone would purchase the club and fund the debts if they’re at a %. Not fussed if all players released and we start afresh. Biggest positive is if the fan-led consortium buys the ground and land. Fans will then have the power as the asset value of the club is minimal. Surely if we can muster the purchase of the land then the club is less value to purchase and the reason why we’re buying the land and stadium?
  21. I thinks the actions of Lemsagam last night proved, without any shadow of doubt, Lemsagam shows little but contempt for the Trust. He’s quick to issue a statement to Sky off the back of Scholes’ statement behind why he walked but nothing issued to the Trust or the fans. Unfortunately I cannot see how throwing scarves onto a pitch and walking out after 76 minutes will have the desired effect. People attending will buy pies etc and it’s money into Lemsagam’s pocket. Nobody attending and 0 attendance will gain much more media coverage and hurt the clown more. Smoke him out; nobody buy season tickets, get your money back if you’ve already bought a ST, don’t attend another match until he’s gone. Yes it will hit the club in the pocket, forcing him to fund wages himself (or not pay again) and could well lead to administration. If the Trust buys the ground then Lemsagam will have no choice but to sell the club or someone then acquires after administration. I’d rather spend another season in L2 with a points deduction than have this cancer at the helm.
  22. Isn’t Trust buying the land now from Blitz? Buy the land, whack up the rent and smoke the fucker out. Force him to sell. I’d rather the fans own the club, cut the playing costs further and gain financial support for additions later down the line
  23. Stand at the turnstiles and campaign supporters not to enter. Surely even the most ardent fan would listen.
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