Worcester Owl

20 minutes ago, South West Blue said:

Why don't Derbyshire police force sod off and try catching some proper criminals lazy gits

It is I believe a criminal offence as @yarddog73 says - under the Football (Offences) Act 1991 to go onto the pitch without lawful authority or lawful excuse so…….
Well done Derbyshire police therefore. Every time a pitch invasion happens players and officials, never mind other fans, risk getting injured. I’m sick of the narcissistic louts who do it and hope anyone who breaks the law in this fashion is punished.

5 hours ago, Lee Sinnott said:

It is only two years ago that supporters were lauded for invading the pitch during the Lemsagam era.

 

I've said this before, but the younger element these days are too bothered about how their "limbs" videos look on TikTok and Instagram. There's no way a goal at home to Dagenham and Redbridge makes people as excited as some of the videos I saw two weeks ago...

Not by everyone. In any case, the context was entirely different. An entirely understandable protest against a vile regime, versus mindless hooliganism in a local derby.

5 hours ago, yarddog73 said:

Thinking back to Tuesday I'd be gutted more than anything if I were Mellon that a group you are now managing disrespect you that much early on in your employment that they would effectively fail to turn up for work, after what he said early in his tenure I'd imagine that is as big a slap in the face you could give him and I doubt he will give some of them another chance if that happens again, any winning team never downs tools in that way and it showed real weakness all round, hopefully he's been able to iron out whatever the issue was Tuesday.

Thinking back to Tuesday, I can understand why Frank would rather row the Atlantic, even in December!!

4 hours ago, True Tic said:

Just had a look at the table - to think we were joint favourites for promotion at the start of the season…

We were second favourites weren’t we? I take your point, it’s massively disappointing so far, but the odds will only have reflected weight of money staked. 
 

I like MM’s post-match interview. He looked embarrassed and was clearly hurting. Some are criticising him re use of subs - I suspect he thought the game was gone after the sending off, and wanted to see what the players on the pitch could do to turn things round. He got his answer.

4 minutes ago, L1onheartNew said:

Toilet has been our best player since coming on.

 

 

A shame he won’t be flush with success tonight!

7 minutes ago, marhar said:

I don't think the yellow for Hogan is wrong necessarily, because the hanging on starts before anything else, but the Fleetwood player should be off too

I know the referees have questionable ability at this level but I think sending a Fleetwood player off might be a bit harsh.

1 hour ago, Summerdeep said:

I said something about this being an obvious banana skin fixture in that previous thread that was locked. If Mellon thought he could mould the current squad into promotion contenders without major surgery, he might have to think again. Could be a good thing over the medium term.

I think that’s the silver lining to take from tonight. Mellon is no fool and will have heard about the weaknesses in the squad, but there’s no substitution for seeing with your own eyes how bad we can be.

To those questioning team selection/tactics, this is Mellon’s second game. He is bound to have said on arrival that every player started with a clean slate. He will very quickly learn who he can and can’t rely on.

That’s one of the most outrageous decisions for a second yellow I’ve ever seen.

2 minutes ago, O.A.F.C. said:

Yes.  I blame the police for not preventing trouble from happening.  Nowt to do with the way people behaved.  It was preventable. 

And there you have it. Total refusal to recognise personal accountability.

1 minute ago, Guy Branston Pickle said:

What do you reckon is better, this or charging through a crowd and seriously injuring people? I'll let you have a think.

I think you're the one who needs to have a think. Maybe you should write to GMP and suggest that as their future strategy for dealing with crowd trouble. Good luck.

1 hour ago, Monty Burns said:

anybody who blindly respcts and defends the police as an entity is totally detatched from reality. l had some good interactions with a few and saw two lve dated

 

even individual police officers do not respect the entity they serve. its full of good people but its riddled with evil. yes, Evil.

 

totally totally riddled. 

 

anybody blindly defending the police as an entity has never had a serious comvo with more than ten serving officers.

 

riddled.

Nobody is saying that. Was it the police who went to the game and planned to cause trouble, or was it cretinous Oldham and Rochdale "fans" ?

5 minutes ago, Guy Branston Pickle said:

 God forbid the Police have to do their jobs. Nah, probably better to just blindly charge through a bunch of innocent people instead

OK, I've got it now - if the troublemakers hadn't been there, maybe you and O.A.F.C. think they would have charged through an innocent crowd anyway. Fired up, according to the pair of you, and relishing the chance to trample on a few people. What a ridiculous scenario. Or maybe you think the police should have stood to one side and said excuse me chaps would you yobs causing trouble mind awfully popping across to us so we can arrest you and eject you from the ground? That would have worked I'm sure.

This is typical blame anyone but the actual culprits thinking. "How dare the police and clubs not expect violence at the game", "you can't blame the yobs, what do you expect" etc. The police are damned if they don't forestall trouble, damned if they act to restore order. They can't win. It's pathetic. 

1 minute ago, JohnnyPimp said:

Maybe it was your comb-over?

Ha ha no and it certainly wasn't my passing skills!

11 minutes ago, League one forever said:

Nope. It started because Oldham fans can’t control themselves sat in the home stand. 
 

If any fan of any club goes to an away game,  and jumps up celebrating in the home end and running onto the pitch, then whinges because the home fans kicked off- They need to look in the mirror. 
 

 

This, 100%.

I've lost count of the number of times I've gone to our away games and stood/sat with home fans as the only way to see the game*. It's never fun, having to bite your tongue and keep your hands in your pockets if/when we score. But it's called self-preservation. Sadly too many idiots these days have no sense of self-control or discipline or personal accountability.

* The worst time was Upton Park, League Cup Semi-Final 2nd leg, just after we went 3-0 down. A rather large West Ham fan turned to me and said how many minutes played. I was about to tell him, kept my mouth shut and showed him my watch instead. Fortunately he was ok with that!!

As an illustration of how Charlton was famous throughout the world: I was in Bukhara in about 1987 or 1988, then part of the USSR and now Uzbekistan I think. I was wandering down a street sightseeing with my wife and a little kid about 9 or 10 years old kicked a ball towards us. This was of course pre-internet, pre-mobile phones, in a part of the world culturally very different to Moscow or Leningrad, never mind western Europe. So I kicked it back to him and he must have heard me speaking English or guessed we were, because he just grinned and started shouting "Bobby Charlton, Bobby Charlton!". I remember saying to my wife that it just showed how famous he was, about 15 years after he'd retired from playing.

16 minutes ago, TwistingMyMellon said:

 

They were carrying carpets?

Did they pile in? Presumably.

1 hour ago, Steve_R said:

There was always a bit of a thing with Tranmere, then Ronnie Moore really stoked it up every time we played them. He loved going on about how we didn’t like him and he didn’t like us, then there was that when his son was ‘signing’ for us.

Like many of us older ones, I grew up hating Bolton, and to a lesser extent (although not by much) Blackburn and that still won’t leave me to this day.
Nothing will ever come close to my lifelong hatred of those red bastards though.

Yes of course, it was Ian Thomas-Moore who scored, how could I forget his dad was managing Tranmere and as you say he loved trying to wind us up. 

Bolton were certainly massive rivals when I was growing up, and I hated Blackburn too, especially when Shearer was playing for them. I remember one game at Boundary Park where he tried to referee the entire game, and was winding up the crowd, totally obnoxious he was.

I remember us playing Tranmere at home a few years back - Jason McAteer was playing for them and I think their manager's son scored (a penalty?) for them. Great atmosphere that day, decent attendance and it was all a bit hostile. Every time McAteer got the ball, our fans launched into a collective Harry Enfield scouser impersonation, it was so funny. To be fair, McAteer himself was laughing long before the end of the match! 

36 minutes ago, deyres42 said:

Derbies are determined by nothing more than geographical proximity.

Well, it's not that often I find myself agreeing with @deyres42 lol, but he's hit the back of the net this time.

Boundary Park is a 20 minute drive/6 miles from Spotland. It's a derby. Yes, of course some derbies are more passionate/frenetic/hostile than others, but Rochdale v Oldham is a derby.

At the moment, they are big rivals, yes. They are 10th in the table, 2 points off the play-offs, which is where we want to be.

6 hours ago, LightDN123 said:

Urko Vera 

Please God, no.

2 hours ago, Monty Burns said:

Eminem says on that video Penryn shared that he loves a winger but also that he won't play wingers unless he's got some good uns available.

maybe get em together early doors or late on if needed.

As long as any winger selected doesn't put over crosses 8 Mile high like Stobbs was prone to doing!

56 minutes ago, Lee Sinnott said:

I don't think Shrek/Clifford is too far off the mark. He's obviously thrown his toys out of the pram after not getting the job. Look forward to rubbing his face in it when we stuff Fylde in just over a week...

Given your track record on forecasting results, God help us in that game then.

14 minutes ago, adamoafc said:

Difference being Thommo was still employed by the club and was only called in as Interim. 

So what? You expect him to hang around for a few more days and oversee the 4th qualifying round of the FA Cup? Seriously? And when he doesn't does that justify him being called a wanker? I don't see a difference sorry. We don't even know whether his old role was still open to him.

6 minutes ago, League one forever said:

I don’t get the issue with him leaving straight away. 
 

Yeah, he had a role at the club- but that changed when he got his first taste of management. Nothing wrong with feeling differently after the experience and wanting another challenge. 

Exactly. And when a club fires a manager he has to walk straight away, why should Thompson be condemned for doing exactly that?

3 hours ago, Shrek said:

 

They knew at the start of the week, they also knew the club wouldn't have Mellon in place for the FA cup game. Club hadn't planned on announcing anything until Monday. Contract only signed Friday and they'd had to rush that to get something out last week.

 

Both Thompson and Redfearn are absolute wankers in my book. Neither with an ounce of care about the club, the fans and the cup game.

 

Paul Murray proper latics cult hero.

2 hours ago, Shrek said:

 

They sulked off. Whether they incorrectly thought they'd got the job their remit was to caretake until the new manager came in.

 

Both talked of their affection for the club, all nonsense. 

 

Murray wasn't set for Saturday, his assistant was playing for Radcliffe!

We have a new contender for Ridiculous Post of the Year and I'm not sure I can see either of the above being beaten.

In what other walk of life would a stand-in manager on learning he hadn't got the job he'd applied for be condemned for leaving and seeking a role elsewhere? If you want loyalty, get a dog.

1 minute ago, boyinthesnow said:

When's the draw? Is it televised/streamed?

2.30pm tomorrow on ITV. It literally appeared on screen as I read your text