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yes, we do.

 

but, more importantly, if we want to go up, we need another striker!

 

we've got no-one that guarantees us goals.

 

Hughes does IF he gets fit.

 

Davies MIGHT bag a few but will probably create more.

 

O'Grady - see Davies?

 

Allessandra - has the potential to get 20+ but might be a more creative type, who knows?

 

Smalley - he's a winger, potentially a very good one.

 

Wolfenden? - sometimes has the look of Michael Owen, but more often Barry Owen.

 

Get a proven, non-injury prone goalscorer in and, I think, we'll definitely be up there. A 2008 Luke Beckett.

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yes, we do.

 

but, more importantly, if we want to go up, we need another striker!

 

we've got no-one that guarantees us goals.

 

Hughes does IF he gets fit.

 

Davies MIGHT bag a few but will probably create more.

 

O'Grady - see Davies?

 

Allessandra - has the potential to get 20+ but might be a more creative type, who knows?

 

Smalley - he's a winger, potentially a very good one.

 

Wolfenden? - sometimes has the look of Michael Owen, but more often Barry Owen.

 

Get a proven, non-injury prone goalscorer in and, I think, we'll definitely be up there. A 2008 Luke Beckett.

 

:shock::blink:

 

Are you serious? That is one area where the last thing we need is to strenthen - 6 strikers at our level is more than enough...

 

Also - Hugesy was injured all last year, even when he played, every confidence the physio will sort him out....

 

Davies scored bloody 14 goals last year! and was injured for the last 10 games or more - easily could have got 20, and will improve!

 

O'Grady scored goals - and again will improve... and is playing in a better team... and as for Smalley and Ales - the potential there is endless...

 

We also have Wolfy.

 

I cant help but thing there is 50 goals minimum there between them all - and that is cautious.

 

The last thing we need is another striker, we have more than enough up there - there isnt an endless pot of money and that is needed elsewhere. Centre backs and centre forwards are now the realm of loans if needed only.

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We don't need another forward we've got more than enough quality up front for this level. However goals from elsewhere might be a problem, the midfield contributed last year but we've lost Gary Mac and time will tell if some of these new midfielders get the goals he did. Eardley got quite a few goals from right-back/midfield as well but apart from that screamer at Leeds when was the last time another defender scored. Our record at corners is bad for an average team but for a team wanting to get promoted its appalling and its these goals from areas other than up front which can be very useful in getting points after all I'd rather win 3 games 1-0 than win two 4-0 but only get a 0-0 in the third.

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We don't need another forward we've got more than enough quality up front for this level. However goals from elsewhere might be a problem, the midfield contributed last year but we've lost Gary Mac and time will tell if some of these new midfielders get the goals he did. Eardley got quite a few goals from right-back/midfield as well but apart from that screamer at Leeds when was the last time another defender scored. Our record at corners is bad for an average team but for a team wanting to get promoted its appalling and its these goals from areas other than up front which can be very useful in getting points after all I'd rather win 3 games 1-0 than win two 4-0 but only get a 0-0 in the third.

 

Spot on - however cant see how the corner thing will change - just dont have the 6 foot plus lumps that can dominate in the air, and our midfield looks good, but lightweight - even gregan isnt great with attacking headers... O'Grady could be decent, however think we might just have to rely on Hughesy's nouse...

 

On the chipping in from midfield, all of lee, whittaker and stephens look like they have a shot on em, as do ratters and eards... wouldnt worry about that, however we really need to get more dangerous at set pieces we cant shoot from.... Hughesy is our only option...

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However goals from elsewhere might be a problem, the midfield contributed last year but we've lost Gary Mac and time will tell if some of these new midfielders get the goals he did.

 

how we didn't go up with his 11 goals in 2 seasons I'll never know.

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We definitely don't need another striker - we have enough now even if the injury jinx hits one or two. But think how many natural left footers we have - Crossley and Stam and that's it. But we now have Whitaker who could bag maybe 9 or 10 and possibly a few from Lee. Personally, I can see goals coming from everyone in front of the back four and the odd one from Gregan's or Hazell's nut (sorry about that) will help. If we end up using Eardley in midfield, I'd back him for a few as well. So, no, another striker we don't need. A genuine left sided midfielder / defender has to be the priority now and I reckon Livermore could still be the man.

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If they stay fit, Davies and Hughes will score 50 goals between them.

 

If one gets a long term injury we might cope, but could dip into the loan market.

 

If both get injured, we'll definitely be looking to loan someone in.

 

I can see O'Grady, Lee, Whitaker, Eardley, Liddell, Smalley and Alessandra all chipping in with a few.

 

You never know, Taylor might find his shooting boots too.

 

We have plenty of goal threat unless we get multiple injuries again.

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If they stay fit, Davies and Hughes will score 50 goals between them.

 

Steady on :) but I agree that these two need to keep fit,have their shooting boots on as they hold the key to our success next season B)

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If they stay fit, Davies and Hughes will score 50 goals between them.

 

If one gets a long term injury we might cope, but could dip into the loan market.

 

If both get injured, we'll definitely be looking to loan someone in.

 

I can see O'Grady, Lee, Whitaker, Eardley, Liddell, Smalley and Alessandra all chipping in with a few.

 

You never know, Taylor might find his shooting boots too.

 

We have plenty of goal threat unless we get multiple injuries again.

 

 

he is entitled to his opinion,and his opinion is that he thinks we need another quality proven striker.

 

yes we have hughes and davies......but after that not much there really is there.even the club have said ogrady is one for the future and wont be thrown straight in.....

 

yes we have a new physio who specialises in soft tissue injurys.....but there is nothing to say that hughes pulls his hamstrings after 4 or 5 games and some clumsy defender snaps davies ankle.....where can you see the goals flowing from then????

 

everybody is saying 6 strikers is enough,but realistically we only have 1 proven striker.......davies could suffer from second season syndrome and not score many....

 

everybody was also saying last season blimey...how many more strikers do doncaster leeds and forest need.....2 out of the 3 are up...so obviously they had enough....

 

i still think we need a left footed winger or midfielder and an experienced left back....its ok throwing or blooding kids,but if we harbour any real ambition of going up then quality and experience counts......

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I think (I know we hate him but..) we need another Chris Porter. Everyone complains about "his goals were set up for him", the main point is he could actually put them away!

 

Until we make the signing ... :pray:

 

What a player signed from league 2 who scored about 10 goals the previous season... all the teams fans we signed him from calling him toss, and most of us wondering why he signed...

 

Yeah, we need that *cough* O'Grady *cough* ...

 

Amazing what playing in a better side does for you... :wink:

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It's already been decided that The Greatest Latics Player Of The Last 10 Years will score 40 on his own.

 

John Thompson?

 

just dont have the 6 foot plus lumps that can dominate in the air,

 

You'd think Gregan would be a threat from corners, he's the biggest "6 foot lump" there is! More likely down to the fact we havent took a decent corner since Eyres left!

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You'd think Gregan would be a threat from corners, he's the biggest "6 foot lump" there is! More likely down to the fact we havent took a decent corner since Eyres left!

Surely only one answer! Bring back Eyresy

 

Eyresy Eyresy Eyresy .... on the other hand Chris Taylor could get practising?

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he is entitled to his opinion,and his opinion is that he thinks we need another quality proven striker.

Where did I say he wasn't? (By quoting me, you seem to be suggesting I did). I merely offered my own, different, opinion. One that, by the rest of your post, I don't think you read properly.

 

I'm not suggesting Hughes and Davies WILL be enough - or WILL score 50 between them. Rather that I think they will IF they stay fit. And if most of our forwards and attacking midfielders do stay fit I think we have plenty of goal threat.

 

I think there are other areas we need to strengthen first, including defence and left wing (although Whitaker is at least left footed).

 

IF Hughes and Davies break down injured again, I think that's when the club will "make better use of the loan system".

 

This kind of pre-season debate is always fun, but I can't help thinking that much of it is based on fans' extremely limited knowledge of players outside the club. I'm not saying my knowledge is any better - it's just that I don't instantly write off a signing just because I've never heard of him.

 

For example, people are saying we need another Porter, but (as others have rightly pointed out) seem to ignore the fact that the similarities between Porter and O'Grady in terms of their record before signing are almost uncanny. Who's to say O'Grady won't force his way into the first team and score 20 goals himself? Admittedly that would be a huge bonus - even in Shez's eyes - but NOBODY can say that DEFINITELY won't happen.

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It's already been decided that The Greatest Latics Player Of The Last 10 Years will score 40 on his own.

 

:lol:

 

Yes Coco - thus has been decreed and it will be lore!

 

Cant ever rememer saying 40... however 25 minimum... (caveat of minimum 35 games played) would you care to have a sporting bet? :wink: *

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*however i'm dubious as to whether you are actually sporting :wink:

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:lol:

 

Yes Coco - thus has been decreed and it will be lore!

 

Cant ever rememer saying 40... however 25 minimum... (caveat of minimum 35 games played) would you care to have a sporting bet? :wink: *

*however i'm dubious as to whether you are actually sporting :wink:

You were obviously busy on some tour guide while your missus read a book to follow the debate, I predicted that if he stayed fit Hughes would get 30. I know realise that I was being overly negative, I am convinced now that he could be the man to fill our left back vacancy and still score at least 50, so long as his fitness holds out long enough for him to play until Christmas.

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I think we have enough with 6 strikers.

 

Hughes will be sharper after pre season training which he missed last year.

 

Davies did well to score 14 considering he missed last 10 games and spent too much time drifting out to wings and back to centre circle. If he spends more time within the width of the goals he will be League 1 top scorer. When he does drift wide (occasionally) we need a midfielder (or 2) making runs into the box.

 

The other 4 strikers are adequate back up for these 2 and will score their fair share when they get on.

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Davies did well to score 14 considering he missed last 10 games and spent too much time drifting out to wings and back to centre circle. If he spends more time within the width of the goals he will be League 1 top scorer.

With a 101 goal strike force I should say promotion is looking likely :)

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