Stitch_KTF Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 Sports Psychology? A load of modern clap-trap! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimsleftfoot Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 (edited) Sports Psychology? A load of modern clap-trap! I've heard that those sports psycholgists magic men think that the world is round. Edited February 9, 2009 by jimsleftfoot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slystallone Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 I've a degree in Sports Science from Leeds Met Carnegie & did my dissertation with a sports psychology slant - "the fear of failure in a penalty shootout situation" Maybe I should give Shez a call?? * On a serious point; I think we could do a lot worse than looking into this as a talented sports psychologist would have a big impact in my opinion – a number of our players do seem to have a few “mental” issues in terms of confidence etc. * Disclaimer - that was 8 years ago & I’ve nearly forgotten all I learnt but hey ho!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted February 9, 2009 Author Share Posted February 9, 2009 I've a degree in Sports Science from Leeds Met Carnegie & did my dissertation with a sports psychology slant - "the fear of failure in a penalty shootout situation" Maybe I should give Shez a call?? * On a serious point; I think we could do a lot worse than looking into this as a talented sports psychologist would have a big impact in my opinion – a number of our players do seem to have a few “mental” issues in terms of confidence etc. * Disclaimer - that was 8 years ago & I’ve nearly forgotten all I learnt but hey ho!!!! I'm sure that is exactly why we have one coming in - be interesting to see if there is any difference. A great time too following a solid team effort at Leicester on Saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeykieran Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 Im shocked that we haven't already been using one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wardlelatic Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 I've heard that those sports psycholgists magic men think that the world is round. Nope they tell the player that the magic spounge will heal all injuries and scrapes and bruises by magic For a doctor to be able to advise to the standard of a top level Sports Scienist, they would take approx 12-15 years to qualify alone including the 7 years and rotational experience doctots take at present. Sports psycholgy is a field in its own, there are a number of traits the persons needs to be experinced in to advise. A Sports Scientist isnt qualified alone to recognise and advise merely to help and co-ordinate players motivational techniques strategies. A friend of mine while at univeristy studied Sp Science with me, then another 2 years Sports Therapy a further 2 years Physiotherapy and a 2 year Sports Psychology degree ( professional stundent not ready for the real world ) He is a very rare breed of Sports Scientist who took it to a whole different level. rudemedic .. Your remark of did I go 9 times ! No I went 6 times within that period to 3 different doctors for advise. I was advised that they couldnt be sure until the swelling went down which it did in week 3 .. My own doctor one with 25 years experience didnt do a standard Valgus Stress Test something I learnt in my 3 year (after the factor of injury) Doctors in general see sports injuries has an hindrance to their duties, very occassionally you find a keen athlete who is a doctor in a surgery or A&E who will do the basic tests and then refer you straight away. John Harbin wasnt a QUALIFIED sports scientist but someone who had a very keen interest in the benefits it could bring first into Rugby then Football. A player who can score 20 goals a season is a most for a club to do well A person who can get the entire squad of 24 + players fit enough to play 120 minutes of football along with being mentally and phyically prefered IMO is a good investment for any club. A club, our size may struggle financially employing someone full time but would the job be full time ? I say NO! There are plenty of qualified sports scientist out there who cant get jobs because the courses were over subscribed, maybe this is a chance for one of them to get back into the industry and earn some extra money in these credit crunch times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 I may be biased, but I think it's a good idea - although not just for the younger players. Perhaps Shez believes you can't teach an old dog new tricks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wardlelatic Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 Perhaps Shez believes you can't teach an old dog new tricks. Then he would be a fool, never getting higher than third division football management Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddog Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 I think some people are getting a bit mixed up. It's a Sports Psychologist, not a Sports Scientist, that Shez wants. This is a specialist job, with specific training. I know Doctors think they can do everything, but they won't be able to do Sports Psychology unless they've some qualification in it - at least not to the standard a Professional football club requires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloughie Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 I've been suspicious for a while as to why some managers hire specialist sports psychologists. I mean various other sports scientists hired who specialise in bio-medicine or analysis I can understand. But I've always thought the manager/coaches should be the sports psychologists, as it generally takes up 90% of their job. I may be well wrong but i find it interesting that Sheridan mentioned the younger players not liking him screaming and shouting on the sidelines. Now I wonder, who's the psychologist been hired for, the players or the manager? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 rudemedic .. Your remark of did I go 9 times ! No I went 6 times within that period to 3 different doctors for advise. I was advised that they couldnt be sure until the swelling went down which it did in week 3 .. My own doctor one with 25 years experience didnt do a standard Valgus Stress Test something I learnt in my 3 year (after the factor of injury) Doctors in general see sports injuries has an hindrance to their duties, very occassionally you find a keen athlete who is a doctor in a surgery or A&E who will do the basic tests and then refer you straight away. To reply to your reply (which is why I've cut up the post). That is poor, I can understand a doctor missing it until the swelling had gone down (for it to take 3 weeks for the swelling to go down is a bit of a clue that something is wrong), but for three doctors to miss it for another 6 weeks is bordering on the negligent. The number of years experience doesn't make you a better doctor- quite often those with a lot of experience are worse than some of those with very little experience as they don't keep up to date and cut too many corners. I would disagree that doctors in general see sports injuries as a hindrance, some might but these are often the doctors with bigger fish to fry, for a GP and those in A+E soft tissue injuries are part of their bread and butter. OK a sprained knee isn't as exciting as diagnosing Woldenstrom's macroglobinaemia but it is what they will be seeing for around 5% of the time minimum (that's a GP, A+E will see soft tissue injuries a lot more than that). I can only speak from my very limited experience and preferences and OK I like my sports but I'd much rather be dealing with someone who has hurt their knee doing something healthy like playing football or whatnot than trying to get an overweight smoker to eat healthier and cut out the fags. I'm not too sure about the specifics but a lot of the money GPs make comes from getting the overweight smoker to eat healthier and cut down the fags (and getting them on appropraite meds) but that is a governmental decision and I can see how this is affecting the care in other areas. However, the care and health of the person in front of you should be the most pressing concern for any doctor and from the sound of it you've been let down there and it has given you a bad impression. A sports injury is something which is affecting the health of the person as much as a lot of other stuff and in your case it was affecting your ability to work/study so compounding the problem. When something is stopping people from working/studying that should be ringing alarm bells and should be managed slightly differently and I would have a lower threshold of referring someone who's injury is affecting their means of employment. (But I would guess your doctors didn't take this into account which is wrong). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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