oafcprozac Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 It could be worse chaps. We could be Liverpoo fans. Yep, all is not right at Anfield - they look a poor side tonight, devoid of any sort of ideas with a soft centre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangerinedreams Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 Schemes: Bond to help players wages for agreed signings that maybe we couldn't afford otherwise 1000 fans donate £1000 over a year raises £1m and we get some sort of shareholding/marker in the club.(I know its a lot but £100/month probably isn't out of the realms of possibility for some of the fans) Fundraising for the future eg how much will it cost to change the proposed stadium to a 20k possible stadium and how much more could the tta invest if we were to help find the resource/cash to match. I know these may not be the most popular ideas but thats my first 5 mins ;-) That might be an idea for when progression is shown but decline does't exactly get the pulses racing, I think progression needs to be shown, whether that be the new ground or a higher finish in the league than last year, as a boost for the club not a bad idea, in the year 2009 with unemployment, fuel prices, utility bills etc etc we're back to how and what people spend their money on and priorities. Fund raising is okay if one has the time, I for one don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcprozac Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 I understand that, but then either the reward has to be enough to entice the apathetic or else we accept its all downhill. They were only quick ideas without a lot of thought behind them as to the catchment and likelihood of success. Maybe the club/trust can research etc through the lapsed customer lists(members, st holders etc from the premiership div1 days) If they've even got one - that should be a given though, that's what any business does to increase its turnover. Knowing us the files will have been used for scrap paper years ago! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangerinedreams Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 Yep, all is not right at Anfield - they look a poor side tonight, devoid of any sort of ideas with a soft centre. Paddypower have stopped taking bets on the fat spanish waiter winning the sack race..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EASTLEY Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 If they've even got one - that should be a given though, that's what any business does to increase its turnover. Knowing us the files will have been used for scrap paper years ago! I know that's why I would hope it would still be in existence, Other ideas is reduced price STs for the Chronicle Suite etc - lets fill both boxes, it may only amount to a few grand but is possible. There must be 500-1000 fans that could afford £1k over a 12 month period. Thats a more substantial amount of money that could be generated. Call it the millionaires club - and give first option at a reduced rate to the new hospitality STs at the new facility if it was to happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcprozac Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 Paddypower have stopped taking bets on the fat spanish waiter winning the sack race..... I wouldn't really blame him if he walked - the Yanks have took the piss when you look at how much debt they've saddled the club with along with lots of empty promises. He does have a tendency to sign lots of average players though - maybe this is down to the crap budget he is given, especially for a team that as well as finishing in the top 4 year after year - seriously threatens the Champions League every season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorrro Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 On here though it's open season i'm afraid. That's the way forums are... This ^. Providing it's not libellous, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorrro Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 Yep, all is not right at Anfield - they look a poor side tonight, devoid of any sort of ideas with a soft centre. Big mistake getting rid of Alonso. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EASTLEY Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 That might be an idea for when progression is shown but decline does't exactly get the pulses racing, I think progression needs to be shown, whether that be the new ground or a higher finish in the league than last year, as a boost for the club not a bad idea, in the year 2009 with unemployment, fuel prices, utility bills etc etc we're back to how and what people spend their money on and priorities. Fund raising is okay if one has the time, I for one don't. Thats fair, me neither truth be known, however if we can help re-energise the club when time allows then I am up for that as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corporal_Jones Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 What rankles me is that too many shrug their shoulders and say "oh well, at least we've a club" but like a few of us have been saying if you can't aim for the stars what's the feckin' point? Exactly. Is there any point in the mere survival of a sporting insitution? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldhamSheridan Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 Exactly. Is there any point in the mere survival of a sporting insitution? Yes, it's called the social aspect, and I would guess it is the reason why nigh on everyone watches the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corporal_Jones Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 (edited) Well I think the sentiment is that people have to accept the hand that we've currently been dealt and basically stop moaning unnecessarily. Most Latics fans who haven't walked away do accept the hand they've been dealt. The trouble is that the 'oh well' attitude will eventually see the death of professional football in the town. Edited August 24, 2009 by Corporal_Jones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corporal_Jones Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 Good post Eastley, but isn't most of that the job of a pro-active marketing department in conjunction with a healthy partnership with both the local press and The Supporters Trust? Not only that-fans action groups have been tried before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corporal_Jones Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 Most of that is the job of people who support Oldham Athletic. If people want to see failure in consistently finishing in the top 10 for the last 4 years (10th, 8th, 6th, 10th) instead of 13th, 14th, 15th and 20th, then what sort of marketing do we actually need? One that asks people to open their eyes to the turth that they consistently deny? Remaining bogged down in this divsion is failure, no matter where we finish. It's slowly killing the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corporal_Jones Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 Yes, it's called the social aspect, and I would guess it is the reason why nigh on everyone watches the game. Perhaps nigh on everybody who still bothers going. But, as we know, these aren't sufficient in number to make the club viable-and this will not change in the proposed new stadium if, as the capacity suggests, the aim is to be a well-run lower division club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldhamSheridan Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 Perhaps nigh on everybody who still bothers going. But, as we know, these aren't sufficient in number to make the club viable-and this will not change in the proposed new stadium if, as the capacity suggests, the aim is to be a well-run lower division club. Strange, it's been viable for over a hundred years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corporal_Jones Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 Strange, it's been viable for over a hundred years. 'The club is dying.' Simon Corney, July 2009. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldhamSheridan Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 'The club is dying.' Simon Corney, July 2009. Ah, it be fact then, now you've quoted someone out of context. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 Exactly. Is there any point in the mere survival of a sporting insitution? 100+ years of history and tradition for starters?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corporal_Jones Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 Ah, it be fact then, now you've quoted someone out of context. And the context is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corporal_Jones Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 100+ years of history and tradition for starters?? Yes-but what does it amount to if the club's only aim is to tread water or keep from going under, which is what seems to satisfy quite a number of those who post on here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 100+ years of history and tradition for starters?? You mean like 'Woolworths'!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boundaryblue80 Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 (edited) It's heartening to see that people can see the reality of the situation. Those responsible for the modest rise in attendances when TTA first came in, talking about Championship football and (proper) new stadiums, building on the modest rise that took place under Chris Moore, have disappeared along with any sense of real ambition coming out of the club. I'm convinced that the surrender of our golden chance of promotion after February 2007 was as much of a sickener for many others as it was for me. It was at that point that I began to sense that we were down in the doldrums for good. I wouldn't quite say that but for me that's definitely more on my mind after last season and the acceptance of so many to run with the Failsworth surrender. Nothing at all suggests moving there will make the difference. Everything suggests we'll be down with the enemy, competing directly for fans and business with them. Just isn't going to happen...we ain't going to compete...we're going to be a Darlington, Northampton or an Oxford...unless serious talk of how the cash turns into on-the-field budgets and serious shots at promotion. TTA won't do this tho...why? Coz they won't be her as far as I'm concerned...this is their land deal (they've earned it...but moving from BP and not founding a way to revelop is somethin I won't thank them for as nothing has proven to me it's the best for us...far from it.) It's the same sort of nodding and following that everyone did when CM came in with money pushing us seriously into a :censored: or bust scenario, the same scenario everyone accepted when they ousted a capable manager for an incapable "hero" (nothing suggested after missing out in 2007 Shez would every get it right) and for 3yrs we watched him spend the kings ransom. Now we think blindly packing up and walking away from an asset many clubs would revel in is the answer. I fear for our future...I really do! Especially when we move... Edited August 24, 2009 by boundaryblue80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldhamSheridan Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 And the context is? That we are dying in our current ground. In a new ground we will be okay, like in a 12,000 all-seater. So, which bit of his comments do you follow and not? To be fair I disagree that the club would 'die' at BP, but I would suspect it may suffer to a Rochdale like standard. But, being honest in the long run, I wouldn't care. Because I really don't watch us for results any more (I don't know when it stopped, but it was a long while ago). I watch to be with mates and have a good day out. To have fun. If we win, it's a little bit better, but it really isn't all that important any more. NB. There are certain games I really do want us to win, but they are ones like Hartlepool and Rochdale. And are just for saving face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corporal_Jones Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 It's the same sort of nodding and following that everyone did when CM came in with money pushing us seriously into a :censored: or bust scenario, the same scenario everyone accepted when they ousted a capable manager for an incapable "hero" (nothing suggested after missing out in 2007 Shez would every get it right) and for 3yrs we watched him spend the kings ransom. Now we think blindly packing up and walking away from an asset many clubs would revel in is the answer. I fear for our future...I really do! Especially when we move... Quite. And people get indignant when I mention the word lemming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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