smigger5 Posted May 22, 2010 Share Posted May 22, 2010 Can you good folk settle an arguement ......... My understanding is we get 20% of any transfer fee City receive, if he moves in a player swap deal we get nowt not 20% of any alleged fee ! Am i right ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
real Posted May 22, 2010 Share Posted May 22, 2010 Can you good folk settle an arguement ......... My understanding is we get 20% of any transfer fee City receive, if he moves in a player swap deal we get nowt not 20% of any alleged fee ! Am i right ??? No, you're wrong. Ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 A player exchange deal has to involve valuations for VAT purposes. In the circumstances you describe, there is a scenario where either the VAT man or Oldham Athletic can raise an objection to the valuation placed on a player. In the case of Oldham Athletic, the outcome could be that a tribunual assesses the value of Micah Richards. Whatever the outcome, I suspect Latics will see less than they should as a result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec1954 Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 (edited) VAT man wouldn't raise an"objection" cometh the day (if ever) they visited City and said lets look at how you accounted for the sale of player A that is the time they would look at the two deals. Latics will hold a contract of sale and be able to enforce it in a court of law. More likely is that AH will phone the City Co Sec and just sort it. Lets face it £2m will be nothing to them and not worth supressing. Edited May 23, 2010 by Alec1954 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 http://www.caughtoffside.com/2010/05/22/li...-richards-move/ More rumour ans probable rubbish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 http://www.caughtoffside.com/2010/05/22/li...-richards-move/ More rumour ans probable rubbish. I think TTA keep these rumours bobbing along to try and keep theprice tag above £10m! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellys_discopants Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 Who`s this Micah Ricahards we are all speaking off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Back Ronnie Moore Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 Who`s this Micah Ricahards we are all speaking off? of? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellys_discopants Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 (edited) D`oh!! Edited May 23, 2010 by kellys_discopants Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 Who`s this Micah Ricahards we are all speaking off? In your defence, I wish he would off as soon as possible! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelaticsfan Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 in the case of a player swap it will go to a tribunal to decide the players worth and how much oldham should receive, unless of course the 2 clubs could come to an agreement, and in this event im sure that oldham would probsbly meet with City and get an agreement with them, seen as they are not shy of a bob or 2, they will probably agree a deal with us for a smooth transition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimsleftfoot Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 Can you good folk settle an arguement ......... My understanding is we get 20% of any transfer fee City receive, if he moves in a player swap deal we get nowt not 20% of any alleged fee ! Am i right ??? No, if there is a swap deal then in the eyes of the tax man a "non-monetary" supply for a consideration takes place which still has to have a monetary amount assigned to it. We will get 20% or 25% or whatever the actual percentage is of that final transaction amount* * Presuming that we did negotiate a decent deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slurms mckenzie Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 in the case of a player swap it will go to a tribunal to decide the players worth and how much oldham should receive, unless of course the 2 clubs could come to an agreement, and in this event im sure that oldham would probsbly meet with City and get an agreement with them, seen as they are not shy of a bob or 2, they will probably agree a deal with us for a smooth transition Alan Hardy has confirmed this in an email, which someone put on here (source -my memory ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 Regarding Richards- does anyone know who negotiated the deal of the sell-on (i.e. the chairman at the time)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelaticsfan Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 Regarding Richards- does anyone know who negotiated the deal of the sell-on (i.e. the chairman at the time)? not sure but im guessin Alan Hardy played a major role Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobOAFC Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 If we had to personally construct a deal with city, we'd accepted £500k probably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 Here's a quandary for some of you. What do you think our 20% should be worth if Richards goes in a straight swap for Eardley? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackey Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 Here's a quandary for some of you. What do you think our 20% should be worth if Richards goes in a straight swap for Eardley? Mine: Richards is worth £10 million Eardley is worth £1 million Total is worth £11 million 20% is worth £2.2 million Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelaticsfan Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 I think hes worth at least 10 million but id say more as hes played quite a few games for city, the fact that they finished 5th, you could argue that he helped acheive that, ive hear on websites (i think sky sports was one of them) that united were interested in micah richards and stephen ireland, but if it was a player swap a tribunal will hear it out, but with city not scared to spend, they will want to have the transfer to go through smoothly, im guessing they will have a mentality of "just pay what they want so we can get player x from tottenham!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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