latico Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 It's that time again folks, by the looks of things. 20K for our best striker is a joke, I am fuming. Rumours that we would have placed ourselves in admin had we not been in a relegation battle last year look more true by the day. Going to be a long long season by the looks of things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macca Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 How do you know it was 20k? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 It's that time again folks, by the looks of things. 20K for our best striker is a joke, I am fuming. Rumours that we would have placed ourselves in admin had we not been in a relegation battle last year look more true by the day. Going to be a long long season by the looks of things. if it was 20k then we made a profit on him...didn't we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilStarbucksSilkySkills Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 It's that time again folks, by the looks of things. 20K for our best striker is a joke, I am fuming. Rumours that we would have placed ourselves in admin had we not been in a relegation battle last year look more true by the day. Going to be a long long season by the looks of things. Is this a wind up? Are you really taking the profitable sale of an out of favour (and probably well paid) striker to be a sign of going bust? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latico Posted July 31, 2010 Author Share Posted July 31, 2010 Obviously I'm in melodramatic mode but things aren't good at the moment at BP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 (edited) Things are definitely not good. We have to believe what we're told in that the budget has been set for this season with our current circumstances in mind. So I don't see a serious threat of admin this season. As for after that, it all depends what happens in the summer, and to some extent what division we'll be in the following season. Absolute worst case scenario (if literally everything went bad), we could feasibly be starting next season in administration, in League Two, on -10 points (or whatever the penalty is now) - with little prospect of anything more than a fight to stay in the league. As I say, that's absolute worst case. But honestly, I'd treat anything better than that as a bonus. Edited July 31, 2010 by garcon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevesmitt Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Obviously I'm in melodramatic mode but things aren't good at the moment at BP. Things arn't good? Ill admit they are not a perfect but we have had one of the best pre season i can remember, the team is playing some really good football under what looks like a really good manager, the season as been budgeted for and if the peformances continue then fans will start to come back. We could be in a far worse position than we are in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latico Posted July 31, 2010 Author Share Posted July 31, 2010 Things arn't good? Ill admit they are not a perfect but we have had one of the best pre season i can remember, the team is playing some really good football under what looks like a really good manager, the season as been budgeted for and if the peformances continue then fans will start to come back. We could be in a far worse position than we are in. I'll leave on field analysis for once we've actually kicked a ball in a competitive game. For now, I just see crowds dwindling, no money in the pot, no forward vision, selling our best players for a pittance, investors saying cheerio and the ground situation looking bleak (literally aswell, BP has lost its magic for me). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davebuckley06 Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 I'll leave on field analysis for once we've actually kicked a ball in a competitive game. For now, I just see crowds dwindling, no money in the pot, no forward vision, selling our best players for a pittance, investors saying cheerio and the ground situation looking bleak (literally aswell, BP has lost its magic for me). dale stephens hasnt been sold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec1954 Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Latico = 12 posts = wind up merchant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Even you had 12 posts once Alec. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ33 Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 so we take a player who didn't fit the manager style of play and sell him and suddenly everything is doom and gloom. Other players in that situation in the last 5 to 10 years we have either released on a free transfer or payed up their contract. Im guessing when we release them on a free transfer to a lower league club on less wages they will also get a nice pay off. So for once we have done good business. All may not be rosey but lets not winge for the sake of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilStarbucksSilkySkills Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 (edited) I'll leave on field analysis for once we've actually kicked a ball in a competitive game. For now, I just see crowds dwindling, no money in the pot, no forward vision, selling our best players for a pittance, investors saying cheerio and the ground situation looking bleak (literally aswell, BP has lost its magic for me). In your opinion. Obviously not in Dickov's. He has yet to sell anyone he wanted to keep. End of story. Stop turning your grief of losing your personal favourite player into a complete non sequitur about doom and gloom. Edited July 31, 2010 by PhilStarbucksSilkySkills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latico Posted July 31, 2010 Author Share Posted July 31, 2010 so we take a player who didn't fit the manager style of play and sell him and suddenly everything is doom and gloom. Other players in that situation in the last 5 to 10 years we have either released on a free transfer or payed up their contract. Im guessing when we release them on a free transfer to a lower league club on less wages they will also get a nice pay off. So for once we have done good business. All may not be rosey but lets not winge for the sake of it I thought Abbott was a great player, I know my opinion counts for zip all in the scheme of things but as a paying fan I have my opinion on on and off field matters and at the end the day I am a paying customer who's money will more than likely not be going in the coffers next season if things like this carry on. Some of the predictions on here, play-offs? I would literally put my bollocks in a blender if w get anywhere near the play-offs come May. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilStarbucksSilkySkills Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 I thought Abbott was a great player, I know my opinion counts for zip all in the scheme of things but as a paying fan I have my opinion on on and off field matters and at the end the day I am a paying customer who's money will more than likely not be going in the coffers next season if things like this carry on. Some of the predictions on here, play-offs? I would literally put my bollocks in a blender if w get anywhere near the play-offs come May. I wouldn't get that signed in a contract if I were you. Far stranger things have happened in football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latico Posted July 31, 2010 Author Share Posted July 31, 2010 In your opinion. Obviously not in Dickov's. He has yet to sell anyone he wanted to keep. End of story. Stop turning your grief of losing your personal favourite player into a complete non sequitur about doom and gloom. Well, I'm worried about Dickov then. You can't judge an individual in a month let alone judge a professional footballer in a pre-season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosa Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Some of the predictions on here, play-offs? I would literally put my bollocks in a blender if w get anywhere near the play-offs come May. Can one of the mods pin this if we have a decent start to the season? I'm going to choose to define 'anywhere near the play-offs' as anywhere in the top half. Very misused word,'literally'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latico Posted July 31, 2010 Author Share Posted July 31, 2010 Can one of the mods pin this if we have a decent start to the season? I'm going to choose to define 'anywhere near the play-offs' as anywhere in the top half. Very misused word,'literally'. Anywhere near the play-offs is 10th and above you cheeky get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macca Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 You can't, big test starts on saturday. Things have been much more positive this pre-season than last. I don't think we have got anywhere near the best squad in the league but it sounds like we're very organised, tough to break down and positive going forward. There'll be some surprise results against the bigger clubs which was seriously missing last season. It'll be like the Latics of old! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 (edited) Things have been better at BP that's for sure, on the other side of the coin they've been far bleaker. The last bleak day's were in many way's a pleasure in that the Latics fans were duty bound together and some fantastic away support was generated. Just like Dickov say's it's only pre season and whilst he's been pleased with some of the performances, it's not results, it's fitness and seeing his instructions put into practice on the pitch. The owners, yes OWNERS, have clearly made their intentions known, they have no longer the will to plough in any more cash. Last season finally saw them give up on taking this club into the Championship. If it transpire's this season by hook or by crook they'll take it and dance along with the rest of us. Should some investor ride over Oldham Edge they'll be gone and a new reign will commence. But lets see what the kids can do mixed in with the thin old guard. I very much doubt some of the kids have what it takes at the moment and some may never have, but whats the difference in that from any season in history? After the Penney year can it really get any worse watching football down at BP. Edited July 31, 2010 by Lags Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernie For England Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Oh shut up you depressing, miserable sods! We are going up, say we are going up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggie21 Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Oh shut up you depressing, miserable sods! We are going up, say we are going up! :wink: KEEP THE FAITH CHAPS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Things have been better at BP that's for sure, on the other side of the coin they've been far bleaker. The last bleak day's were in many way's a pleasure in that the Latics fans were duty bound together and some fantastic away support was generated. Just like Dickov say's it's only pre season and whilst he's been pleased with some of the performances, it's not results, it's fitness and seeing his instructions put into practice on the pitch. The owners, yes OWNERS, have clearly made their intentions known, they have no longer the will to plough in any more cash. Last season finally saw them give up on taking this club into the Championship. If it transpire's this season by hook or by crook they'll take it and dance along with the rest of us. Should some investor ride over Oldham Edge they'll be gone and a new reign will commence. But lets see what the kids can do mixed in with the thin old guard. I very much doubt some of the kids have what it takes at the moment and some may never have, but whats the difference in that from any season in history? After the Penney year can it really get any worse watching football down at BP. Great post Lags as usual you talk alot of sense, the only thing I would question is the last sentence because if the last 20 years of supporting Latics has told me things can always get worse even when you least expect it . Although its fair to say you become pretty used to the concept of being kicked in the balls being a Latics fan Perhaps Latico will be the first to experience putting them through a blender though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ah_oafc Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Sick of negative comments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobOAFC Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 I'll leave on field analysis for once we've actually kicked a ball in a competitive game. For now, I just see crowds dwindling, no money in the pot, no forward vision, selling our best players for a pittance, investors saying cheerio and the ground situation looking bleak (literally aswell, BP has lost its magic for me). Dwindling crowds? New season new start. That was last season. Also admin looms? Well only people we owe money to is Mr Blitz & Gazal. They put us in admin = not the £3m back for them. And even if Admin did loom - Eaves and Taylor being sold will bring in around £500k. Stephens would bring in another wedge of cash. With PD in charge, the teams playing better and more attacking so more fans will come back and that means more money into the pot. Stop being all negative. Also, Mr Mancini if for some weirdly strange reason you are reading this, please sell Micah Richards for alot of money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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